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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what'll you need in re disk ? ( that box is a cold spare and diskless atm )
mircea_popescu: the race being on, i'm curious if "check trinque 's sig" can be done in 1 mo or not.
mircea_popescu: a. BingoBoingo wouldja mind billing me for a month of ^ and send hanbot teh credentials.
asciilifeform: '141.7 USD/mo, billed in BTC at the beginning of every month.'
mircea_popescu goes to look it up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's in the snsa broadcasts, lol
mircea_popescu: i hafta look this up ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's the snsa spare unit, currently cold
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't suppose you folks have a 64 bit machine i could get for hanbot to continue her cuntooing ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 03:08 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892264 << looks like spyked is going to take care of it (though, I dun mind rsyncing it as well) >> http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html#selection-201.0-213.84
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892703 <-- I'ma give it a try and report. if it's more complicated than a rsync, I'll come up with a method to (at the very least) make the archive accessible to L1 after I grab it ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 21:49 mircea_popescu: spyked http://trilema.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/ << turns out i already had.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892447 <-- ty! will continue discussion there. ☝︎
trinque headed to bed
trinque: once we get across the gap, can easily rebuild for w/e
trinque: yep, present item wants to begin life on an x86-64
mircea_popescu: i don\t think i own any x64 lappies.
trinque actually has tooling for this sitting on his workbench, suitable for e.g. stamping out small linux firmwares w/ busybox
trinque: I don't plan on porting the bootstrapper to other architectures; it'll be better once the bridge has been crossed to crosscompile for various other archs (arm, i686, toaster)
trinque: hanbot: hm, this got right past me. the cuntoo builder is 64bit only at the present. ☟︎
hanbot: gentooers: looking @ thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt, i direct myself to the distfiles @ gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu and find noffin' for i686; do we not have a gentoo frozen for it?
mircea_popescu: a there it was!
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 23:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform weirdly that doesn't yield either. i coudl've sworn we had a logthread on african "career women" and euro powdered milk.
asciilifeform: in re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893174 that is ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893178 << you oughta see how they 'teach' it tho. ☝︎
feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2993 << Loper OS -- Lost Technology: The PQ3QI-01 Sunl...able Display.
mircea_popescu: nah, the dutch item.
a111: Logged on 2013-10-10 15:01 mircea_popescu: ;;google "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is"
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:43 asciilifeform: ( and magicking as result the privatizationlulz into being )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893154 << if you're into these, the story of the west india trading co and the corp boom, the involvement of said newton, and of the king's finance dept is well worth a study. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893136 << ha, never seen that1 b4. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:30 asciilifeform: nuffin here is healthy or whole, it is like living on those tomatoes they grow in chernobyl exclusion zone
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893127 << you have no idea. should see them butcher the classics, "proust expert", "let me read you some latin", jesus f christ. ☝︎
asciilifeform: iirc was a trilema piece.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform weirdly that doesn't yield either. i coudl've sworn we had a logthread on african "career women" and euro powdered milk. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: far as i'm concerned, walking bodies who can't languages into a higher maffs classroom is == lunacy to walking in ones who never learned arithmetic
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 18:11 mircea_popescu: in short : the point here is that we control ~the process~ of education, not ~the outcomes~ of education.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:29 diana_coman: it has nothing to do with what student might or might not be able to do; if you have a course on X and the main reference is Z then Z is the main recommended book regardless of anything else, what
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893123 << for all the wank re "science of education", entire field is exactly at shaman stage, something as basic as http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892871 entirely undiscovered arcana. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ameripharma is just tip of the iceberg.
mircea_popescu: can't locate now the discussion of danone giving out "free baby formula" to moronic (aka "aspirational") orc females just for long enough to suspend natural lactation, and etcetera.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-12 20:50 mircea_popescu: and since we're on it, methotrexate is used as an abortifacent, notwithstanding that ethacridine lactate is cheaper, can be used without needing a hospital visit and much safer.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:19 asciilifeform: ( what little of use that ~does~ exist in eng, is 'ancient' and 'wouldn't do!11' to assign, cuz threadbare faculty would rather pad own pockets and send chumpers to buy ~their~ dead tree rubbish )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893094 << quite like the medicine. oh, sulfa NO GOOD. let's not even start on http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-12#918823 lest we end up straight with http://trilema.com/2011/ecologistii-cei-mai-ipocriti-dintre-paminteni/#selection-47.1-51.521 "why EXACTLY is philiphs paying govts to ruin 3rd world's manufacturing" ☝︎☝︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/belgian-minister-forced-off-the-job-for-pointing-out-obviously-organized-protest-was-organized/ << Qntra -- Belgian Minister Forced Off The Job For Pointing Out Obviously Organized Protest Was Organized
diana_coman: I've found it online but not for download, and in piecemeal fashion rather than full thing
asciilifeform: i'ma look in the warez chest an' see if got any there also.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'radio zvezda' has a bunch on their www iirc.
diana_coman: ahhh, if at it, asciilifeform one thing I really try to get hold of and couldn't, perhaps you have it: some offline audiobooks read by this Samoilov Vladimir?
asciilifeform: ( and magicking as result the privatizationlulz into being ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: in '90s ru, there was joke that went around where eltsin had sworn on a copy somehow instead of bible
asciilifeform: if anybody turns this item up in eng, plox to write in
diana_coman: so no, I'm not barfing at communist kid bookz but at propaganda fed while one's too young to even *notice* it
BingoBoingo: Well, also they were doing the advanced nuclear chemisty *INSIDE* copious dirt to kick up.
asciilifeform: the 1 where they go to where capitalism.
asciilifeform: btw didja ever read 'neznaika on the moon'
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you know, I do NOT barf at all at Neznaika and at Nosov in general and yes, I read them as a child an in Romanian and loved them; and I re-read them at 12 and at 19 and at 25 and STILL loved them
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: correct, approx at the time they started optimizing for neutron yield
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There were a couple dirtier uncontained Nevada tests than 'bikini' The 'Ploughshares' series was especially salty
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can barf at the communist kid b00kz, but seems to me that even there result is considerably closer to human and farther from bonsaikitten of disney princess etc.
asciilifeform: from 'bikini' to mid-90s
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, 80+% of that very strontium is there on acct of ameritards having their fireworx )
diana_coman: it's even precisely the cover I remember, lol
asciilifeform: diana_coman: strontium is in the milk of erry cow alive, but still wouldntcha rather drink from cow in ro than from chernobyl.
asciilifeform: ( o'henry ? twain ? )
asciilifeform: which were these, diana_coman
diana_coman: hmmmm, a tiny Diana loved those well-written children stories; and then she re-read them at age 12 or so and was so shocked to see how much propaganda they were....; my point being: I doubt there is any place which is not "subtly poison" of one sort or another
asciilifeform: except that i dun think anywhere in civilized world keeps the insane in anyffin resembling the conditions.
asciilifeform: erry time asciilifeform gets a chance to walk out, going back feels rather like back to insane asylum.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu at one pt walked around in usa for coupla ~yrs~ and then noticed and took the first plane out and never set foot again
asciilifeform: errything is subtly poison. and not merely the air, water, food ( these -- so obv. that even the localtards understand, generally ) -- but the ~thought~
asciilifeform: nuffin here is healthy or whole, it is like living on those tomatoes they grow in chernobyl exclusion zone ☟︎
asciilifeform: lucky, too
diana_coman: well, not in the US (got once to Boston for a conf. and that's all) and not in English education system at any rate, true
asciilifeform: i'm guessing diana_coman never spent much time in anglotardistan
diana_coman: it has nothing to do with what student might or might not be able to do; if you have a course on X and the main reference is Z then Z is the main recommended book regardless of anything else, what ☟︎
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, to close the circle, yrs later i actually ran into kurosh ed. in 100% king's english
diana_coman: yes, it has to be here, top of the list if it's tops; it's not "recommend for X's and Y's capabilities" but "recommend for Z topic" , isn't it?
diana_coman: set the brighter students to translate it if need be, but anyways, recommend it
asciilifeform: 'here, have this mega-opus in martian'
asciilifeform: cuz to ~whom~ recommend.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:18 asciilifeform: e.g. brin elder would've luvved to assign e.g. kurosh as the textbook, i suspect, but could not , it dun exist afaik in eng
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893092 -> honestly, I don't see it: if he luvved to then WHY not recommend it? in martian if that's what it is in, wtf ☝︎
asciilifeform: he ended up hiring undergrad-asciilifeform to... sit in a (princely) locking (!) office and read mountain of treatise re ion engines.
asciilifeform: they had this d00d, who was chief of sov space ministry at the time of venera probe.
diana_coman: well, then still only...remains
asciilifeform: by the time i got to'em already mostly eaten by termites inside.
asciilifeform: i found some prior to them expiring, didnt make much diff
diana_coman: pitty you didn't find the prof before finding only his...remains as it were
asciilifeform: ( seems like a ru maffs prof keeled over / retired, and all of his shelf was tossed )
asciilifeform: i actually picked up a ru transl, which i had nfi existed until found in a skip (!) at same uni
diana_coman: it's actually even translated to Ro, I still have the volumes on my shelf though I go and read...the English version :D
diana_coman: later than my outburst :D
diana_coman: oh, huh; at least they DID mention Knuth to us
asciilifeform: of course there was 1 at the library (at the time, naodays library mostly hollowed out), the tomes stuck together from age, just like the lenin on the 4th floor
diana_coman: just in case anyone wonders: it was anyway all in English, not like one had much in Romanian on the topic (and to this day, reading CS in Romanian is just not worth it)
asciilifeform: i went to what at the time was supposed to be a 'decent' public uni in usa, and do you think anyone assigned knuth ?
asciilifeform: ( what little of use that ~does~ exist in eng, is 'ancient' and 'wouldn't do!11' to assign, cuz threadbare faculty would rather pad own pockets and send chumpers to buy ~their~ dead tree rubbish ) ☟︎
diana_coman: well yes, the noob part being that a. I had not realised that a good book was actually something rare - I had just put it all on the teachers' incompetence/lack of interest in recommending something useful b. it took me that long to realise fully the difference between the bullshit stuff that was abundantly provided and something useful
asciilifeform: e.g. brin elder would've luvved to assign e.g. kurosh as the textbook, i suspect, but could not , it dun exist afaik in eng ☟︎