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mircea_popescu: da fuck knows what's in that code.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1139728 << there's a reason nobody (tm) is using it. ☝︎
Hasimir: I ported the python bindings for gpgme to py3
Hasimir: and this key crap better not invalidate my pyme work
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Hasimir: hmm, oh ratings ... I tend not to rate bots, not even mine
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1139712 << atm it's just weird. i have nfi what that'd do. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 00:42:58; decimation: so can someone explain why the nyse would have a bitcoin index without any actual bitcoin-backed securities for trade?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1139716 << yes, but i already sound too paranoid. ☝︎
danielpbarron: no; I think kako did that
mircea_popescu: Naphex this was more re nsa diddled hardware.
danielpbarron: !up Hasimir welcome to the biggest* best** irc channel!
Naphex: mircea_popescu: a good attacker will do discovery, and map everything ahead of time. while there are some pluses into deviating from the toolset. they mostly come from building your own. which is going to end up better fitted for the task
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you remember where the fuck is that discussion about how a good hardening approach is to deviate from the toolset the attacker might reasonably expect to find is ? ☟︎
mod6: lol, they used to have this "rabin-miller" function in the first import of gnupg (as so it's dated) that takes a paremeter "MPI n" and then does nothing and returns 0; http://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=cipher/primegen.c;h=07d83d8314d8588e4f425a4d171fc41ebb3be4a9;hb=5393dd53c5e06f0458949217317601b2eaed8350G
mod6: maybe its this is_prime function
mats: looking forward to pounding trustfund hotties on drugs
mats: going to a music festival this weekend then san diego
mod6: ahh, i see, you gotta pick the bases for a randomly.
mod6: oh it might actually do this somewhere anyway... there are some references in the docs... although i haven't found it in the code yet.
mircea_popescu: that's probabilistic tho
mod6: by the end of the night i was digging into prime selection. gnupg does fast fermat checks in several places, but im starting to wonder if it wouldn't also be benificial to just check against a list of "Carmichael numbers"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> maybe i wanna use e = 2686977, whose business is it. << i was looking at this yesterday too, had the same impression. mpi_set_ui( e, 65537);
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: nah, some interesting guys but they're all just trying to do gambling stuff in Romania and elsewhere
assbot: Logged on 20-05-2015 00:29:41; mod6: take a look at this: http://dpaste.com/0SQPBKC.txt Is there any reason when allocating the space for p & q to do Eulers totient they would initialize the space with 'p' and 'p', instead of 'p' & 'q'? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1139680 << speaking of this, am I the only one nonplussed by all this "we use <<best practices>> fixed exponent" bs ? it's an unavoidalbe magic number , okay, but it's tyhe sort that should eminently be a knob for the user. a proper gpg would have e user-settable at the key generation phase (with 65536+1 as a default, sure) ☝︎☟︎
davout: fluffypony: the electric plugs are there only for the show on regular french trains
fluffypony: davout: Thalys have on-board wifi :)
davout: fluffypony: on IRC? nice! still up for the monero meeting tomorrow?
fluffypony is on a train to Paris
davout: Helvetik: if you really don't speak that much english mebbe join #bitcoin-fr, will be less painful for you :-)
fluffypony: that thing
Helvetik: Sorry, I juste speak a little english. I'm here for to talk with davout
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 23:33:00; asciilifeform: (this could underplay the effect of 'bastards' however)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139657 << it would, and the whole thing's about bastards in the wild. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 22:50:05; jurov: if someone uses temporary voice to resubmit existing deed 1000 times, deedbot has nothing to say about it?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139628 << voice is not the criteria jurov ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 22:45:37; trinque: I'll negrate people who abuse it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139620 << this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (for the record : the life of a smerd, like that of a kholop, was worth 5 grivna. that's about enough metal to make a decent shovel - roughly speaking the smartphone of the time)
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2014 20:41:18; asciilifeform: ght run as follows: Today we've got a friendship evening with shit-eaters', or Today we're having some shit-eaters to dinner. Prepare a suitable menu'.'
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2014 20:41:17; asciilifeform: Officially, all Soviet representatives regard these parasites with touching feelings of friendship, but privately they call them 'shit-eaters' ('govnoed'). It is difficult to say where this expression originated, but it is truly the only name they deserve. The use of this word has become so firmly entrenched in Soviet embassies that it is impossible to imagine any other name for these people. A conver
mircea_popescu: one only needs to look at the czech commies post ru invasion to understand exactly how abject people actually are.
mircea_popescu: instead of parading them naked through the streets with a "i was a fucktard and am now sorry" thing around their neck, they let them sit around for twenty years coming up with reasons as to how their idiocy "wasn't really all that bad". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea what west germany was thinking when it allowed the scumbags to join civilisation without first hanging every "intellectual" of the eastern school.
mircea_popescu: for as long as the free herring still lasts, they can run around derping about how they meditatively comprehensified the deep secrets of the universe. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: e) that's going away. we are here.
mircea_popescu: c) god comes back in the shape of Kennedy and the Fulda gap. herring is being airlifted into berlin
mircea_popescu: b) god hath moved on, so now five centuries of hard labour and being basically as dirt-poor and pan troglodytus as the russian mujik.
mircea_popescu: a) god hath decided to give free herring out in the scania sounds. consequently, swedes now have a kingdom
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 19:21:04; decimation: mircea seems to credit the german geography for why 'nordic freedom' 'seems to work'. but I suggest it is the people themselves - having been beaten by the romans for centuries, and then forced by the church to mate outside their immediate family, they developed a concept of 'kinship' beyond L2 cousins
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139522 << it's a thing, yo. the history of "nordic countries" (post roman empire, because pre that history consisted of being pretty much the pasthun of the time, raped with a sharpened stake covered in burning greek fire) is like so : ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139512 << i am too nonconformist to hang out with you guys anymore. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139507 << "a state of anarchy" is even better. like this glass being full of empty. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^ him, i think.
asciilifeform: at least, in the public.
asciilifeform: mod6: probably the most 'serious' general-purpose encyclopaedic work on crypto.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/hac << i have this one too lol
asciilifeform: before long, herr böck will claim that he tipped us off to the mess of diddled keys on sks.
mircea_popescu: is that thing even read ?
asciilifeform: at least spelled name this time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they readily admit "we took register piece and translated"
asciilifeform: 'debunked, rsa not broken' << 'this thread is about kittenz' (TM)
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is everyone involved on ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude that zdnet article was probably the most idiotic thing i read today.
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 18:42:29; jurov: both sides of that discussion made me cringe
asciilifeform: davout: i cannot comment re: whether 20th anniversary thing censored any of the goodies from 2nd ed, or added nonsense. but it strikes me as likely.
mircea_popescu: get the 90s version.
davout: so wrt the schneier book i see 'second edition', and '20th anniversary edition'
mircea_popescu: i guess they're slow.
asciilifeform: hn thinks so, no ?
mircea_popescu: it's damned time.
mircea_popescu: iguess someone really should write a reasonable, 500 page, college degree (any field, proper) required to read crypto overview
asciilifeform: unrelated, the toilets piece - http://www.tofugu.com/2013/07/22/why-japanese-toilets-are-failing-in-america - is pretty lulzy
asciilifeform: not a bad place to start. but very bad place to end.
davout: gonna get the schneier one to get started
asciilifeform: more or less the entire rest of the library on this subject is either pulp for lusers, or very narrow treatises for specialists
asciilifeform: get the tree.
asciilifeform: i have the dead tree, it is very nice.
asciilifeform: ^ all of the chapters on www
davout: yeah, i saw this one
asciilifeform: (before they scooped out his brain)
asciilifeform: davout: there isn't terribly much good material other than the original 'red book' by - yes - schneier
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't be too worried about it, it's probably on everyone's im
mircea_popescu: cat trilema-20may2015.txt | grep -c "more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations"
mircea_popescu: it's the equivalent of a tractor that just plowed through virgin land. all those delicious worms!
mircea_popescu: anyway, enough stuff in phuctor's wake to keep dozens of crypto researchers busy for monthys if not years.
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 19:23:18; davout: HN now displays "Why Japanese Toilets Are Failing in America (2013)" higher than this
asciilifeform: should've mentioned japanese toilets, perhaps
mircea_popescu: davout apparently "it’s impossible to downvote anything on Hacker News". i guess story just isn't interesting.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> any idea what caused the oom ? if anything identifiable at all. << nothing specific yet. although the charts are interesting. Process Switches hit 4k before going to zero.
davout: mircea_popescu: on osx you can either build GPG, or use this macgpg stuff, i use the former, so can't really help here
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is a pgp for mac thing yes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that the 'apple product safety' thing is a target. that is, folks filing bug reports 'confidentially'
davout: aaand the HN story is at... wait for it... 3 points
mircea_popescu: we'll get jack with the linux versions
mircea_popescu: and the apple one
mircea_popescu: THATs what needs to be tested. pgpwin and what else was there ?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: and am i correct in my reading that thermonuke ver. never died ? << correct.
asciilifeform: betcha some of the magickeys show a legit evil32.com