asciilifeform: by the time of the bolix escapades, it was a done deal, if you wanted to build heavy experimental gear with substantial upfront cost and no clear market prospect -- you went to a kolhoz (e.g. mit) and prayed that they'd take .
asciilifeform: and if so, the folx in su who built lunar lander, also should have done it in a garage ? instead of with dirty ckkpss moneys ? or not ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good thread, and notes, but the central q is still unresolved in my head -- argument is that 'they should have left mit and built the machine, in a garage, in zimbabwe ( so as to avoid paying license fee )' ? or 'should have built it without having ever been at mit' ? or which☟︎
asciilifeform: that's the interesting bit, stalin 1) ordered the continuing ukr brush war, hushed up 2) proclaimed blanket amnesty for surrendering rebels
asciilifeform: the creation of ~these~ ukrs is quite recent.
asciilifeform: there's a reason why may9 is ~the~ surviving national holiday in ru, and culturally the axis on which whole propeller turns.
asciilifeform: the german invasion -- integrated (most of them, the exceptions starred in stalin's deportation extravaganza post-war) once and for all.
asciilifeform: but, observe, not as result of any unified front with english. ( not that such a thing can even be drawn in this picture, there was no unified 'indian nation' nor a stalin, to make any unified front with anyone. )
asciilifeform: ( it is pretty common sin among ru-speaking authors, incidentally, 'germany was doomed, should've known..' etc )
asciilifeform: imho to write off germany as 'obviously bit more than it could chew, on day 1' also ahistorical.
asciilifeform: if cards had fallen slightly differently -- then yes, poles == sioux.
asciilifeform: must note, that everybody who stands up and tries to build something, or colonize a continent, or do pretty much anything substantial, is 'rebelling against reality'. it only gets counted as 'eh, he went against The Way World Worx'(tm)(r) if he fails.
asciilifeform: it is not much of a mystery, what was planned there. complete with specific references to 'like the indians'
asciilifeform: there's a common set of jokes from su, q: 'if only we let germany win, we'd be drinking bavarian! riding in mercedes!' a: '... yes, ride in mercedes. but -- as the leather seat.'☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm still waiting to run across the kundera, solzhenitsyn, or the like, whose work shows any symptoms of grasping that 1) 'free world' was a cheap scam 2) switching moscow whip for washington whip won't improve anything 3) the uppity orcs will lose whatever sovereignty, industrial civ level, etc. they have under sov colonization, when (2) happens , and remain sad and dependent
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: paste ? ( i can't be arsed to read the d00d's www )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform's take, is already in the log, above.
asciilifeform: interesting lulgem from the paper, 'An email client receiving a PGP-signed message may try to automatically download the corresponding public key.' << i never used 'pgp for lusers' emailtrons and had nfi. would explain one obvious modality for the 'mirrorolade' item
asciilifeform: ^ pretty lulzy prehistory -- usg is burning the vuln in the most traditional way, complete with 'responsible disclosure'ism and a boeck-style 'researcher' ; nao spinning in every propaganda organ in unison as 'pgp broken!'☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a correctly-written adult vtron should NEVER fail during press
asciilifeform: For the first, it is to be said that witches are not generally rich for this reason: that the devils like to show their contempt for the Creator by buying witches for the lowest possible price.'
asciilifeform: or, p. 1., 'question' xviii, '...why do not witches become rich? Secondly, why, having the favour of princes, do they not co-operate for the destruction of all their enemies? Thirdly, why are they unable to injure Preachers and others who persecute them?☟︎
asciilifeform: e who see them are deluded in the way we have said. For a certain man tells that, when he had lost his member, he approached a known witch to ask her to restore it to him. She told the afflicted man to climb a certain tree, and that he might take which he liked out of the nest in which there were several members. And when he tried to take a big one, the witch said: You must not take that one; adding, because it belongs to a parish pr
asciilifeform: 'And what, then, is to be thought of those witches who in this way sometimes collect male organs in great numbers, as many as twenty or thirty members together, and put them in a bird's nest, or shut them up in a box, where they move themselves like living members, and eat oats and corn, as has been seen by many and is a matter of common report? It is to be said that it is all done by devil's work and illusion, for the senses of thos
asciilifeform: activity of shaman, or rust programmer, is 'directed', from his pov
asciilifeform: they do 'work' of the rat turning a wheel, yes
asciilifeform: ( try and, one day, build one of their supposed 'just worx, run script!' lol )
asciilifeform: lol script. these people spend all day, erry day, fiddling with the products of one another's dysfunctional hands growing from arse
asciilifeform: i suspect (but cannot prove) that there is at least a trace of underlying thought of 'so suppose he's telling the truth. nao wat? throw away mit diploma? eat pistol? eat from dumpsters?'
asciilifeform: the same folx will do mountain of work to, e.g., build 'rust' compiler or other heathen nonsense. but unsurprisingly won't lift a finger to look through terrorist telescope and , heavens forbid, see an extra moon where mother church proclaimed, Officially, there be none
asciilifeform remembers walking into dc metro and literally every square metre on which paper could be glued -- pavement, walls, trains, escalator -- was covered: 'groupon'
asciilifeform: i.e. one investor's 500k builds a co2 extractor; the other's 2m usd -- mysteriously evaporates without building much of anything
asciilifeform: rright. nobody promised that the constraint mechanism would be same as in venice or king leopold's belgium. today it is in the turket vs vapour usd divide
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: related, in re period, 'На одной ноге я пришел с войны, / Привязал коня сел я у жены. / Но часу не прошло комиссар пришел, / Отвязал коня и жену увел. ...'
