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pete_dushenski: and being rich is most definitely not waking up at 7am every day
to fill out paperwork and have coffee with a gaggle of geese
mircea_popescu: to quote
the pawnbroker, "more like a stench, if i remember"
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 13:41:24; asciilifeform: i suppose i should clarify, again,
that i wasn't speaking of -actually working- as bureaucrat -
that is, sitting in meetings, filing reports in
triplicate. just
that being paid
to do, in effect, whatever
the fuck you want, is almost like being rich.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu current best
theory is
that 'gargleconomy' will generate enough heat
to keep homes warms in
the winter and enough feelgoodery
to keep bellies full year-round.
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 13:38:16; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159011 <<
this has
to win some sort of prize for 'martial in atomic dirigible.' EVERYBODY i ever met in usa works for salary. i suppose it follows
that neither i nor anyone i know in meatspace is 'even half-competent.'
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159096 << you personally misrepresent your income, for whatever reasons, but you actually are mostly working for warrants
these past coupla years.
the others - probably a combination of incompetence (note
that high functioning autism is still mental incompetence) and similar misrepresentation, similarly for whatever reasons.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: (and yes, i know
these
things from experience - i have
the benefit
that i can order slave girls do anything.)
mircea_popescu: maybe instead of phasing out "fossil fuels"
the g7
tards should get
together and phase out
the pretense of gargle-economy.
mircea_popescu: the empire's running out of shit
to pretend like it stole.
mircea_popescu: finally,
the ignorant vouches of random geek has been sold, in github. what's left ?
mircea_popescu: the process of packaging
the ignorant vouches of your average 20something aspie "young professional" / marketing expert slut idem, with
twitter.
mircea_popescu: more interestingly, facebook has had it's "turner buys myspace" moment, a while back.
the only way it's going now is
to
that same 99.999% "value" drop. so did
twitter. recently, so did github.
the process of packaging
the ignorant vouches of
the average imbecile, selling
them and running off has completed with facebook.
mircea_popescu: why ? what exactly is
the value of 2k followers
that he would use
the irreproducible value of his intellectual output
to prop up
twitter ?
mircea_popescu: and yet
the guy ends his very apt article with "You can also find me on
Twitter and GitHub."
mircea_popescu: HOPE was last weekend (I didn't go) and finally
the design specification has been posted along with
the audited code. It appears
that my initial concerns were warranted, each key is generated directly from
the user's pass-phrase with no salt,
thus leaving
the
true amount of entropy in
the key generation process highly unknown.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the sole source for entropy in
the ECC key generation. At
the
time of
the debate, Nadim suggested I wait until
the big unveiling at HOPE
to pass judgement as he had some research into secure human-generated pass-phrases
that he was going
to share.
mircea_popescu: Prior
to
this years HOPE conference, a few articles appeared
touting Nadim Kobeissi's new project, miniLock and him and I got into a heated debate regarding some issues
that I, as a certified non-cryptographer, was concerned about in his design (at least what I could gather from it from
the pre-release Wired article).
The essence of my concerns boiled down
to
the fact
that in miniLock, Nadim is using
the human user as
BingoBoingo: It is literally
THE CSS snippet used everywhere
to make <pre>
text wrap. And safari chokes on it?
BingoBoingo: Mozilla 1999, IE 5.5+, Opera since version 4, also works on Chromium and Midori
that I
tested
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski feelings fusion
to provide free energy soon
BingoBoingo: This isn't even derpy HTML5OMGWTFBBQBUTTSEX,
this is simple fucking
text presentation
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo mircea_popescu
the
text on
that last qntra piece is overflowing instead of wrapping. it's broked.
mats: pot arguably rots
the brain moar
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> mats would you agree
that your palace is standing ? << My memory palace doesn't abide by such quaint physical conventions
mircea_popescu: poor reddit, stuck with
this sad situation where it doesn't matter, and
the people doing
things are
the people it hates.
thestringpuller: i wonder how much irc
traffic is referred by qntra/loper/trilema
to here
mircea_popescu: then again,
this is kinda why we don't give a shit about
the lot of
them.
referredbyqntra: I
tried with and without link
to deedbot.org but it barfs
the same. Maybe allergic
to -----
referredbyqntra: That's
the response when I
try
to put your declaration in
there.
ascii_field: rather
than 'will mr lamer shoot himself in
the foot and blow away his entire
torso'
ascii_field: i normally presume 'fella knowing what he's doing' as
the subject of my ruminations.
mircea_popescu: the disagreement mostly stems from definitions
tho. what people mean when
they say "don't use brainwallets for you are stupid" mostly reduces
to redditard going on brainwallet.org
ascii_field: i urge mircea_popescu
to eat some
top ice cream and
think of
this.
ascii_field: 128 bits by a clever child in
three languages - never
ascii_field: the other is actual 'guessability by enemy', a more nebulous
thing
ascii_field: one kind of
the strictly-quantifiable varieties (kolmogorov, shannon, etc)
ascii_field: because
there are
two kinds of 'entropy' here
ascii_field: i would also like
to point out
that framing
the question of key quality in
terms of 'bits of entropy' is slightly misleading
ascii_field: so it is not a question of whether
to use brainwallets - but whether
to -also- use permanent copies of keys !
ascii_field: my point is
that everyone here is either using brainwallet in some form already (backup of your key in a postbox in japan, symmetrically encrypted with pw in your brain, and postbox # also in your brain) OR is one stint in pow camp away from 'civil death' (total loss of key)
mircea_popescu: the entire
thing was mostly about instructing
the bitcoin-lemmings (peeps who
think
themselves "the community") about where
to not step on
the
tiger.
mircea_popescu: but you've seen
the general public lose btc
to weak "brainwallets" ?
ascii_field: and hence
the location of key, and any symmetric decrypt password
to it, -is-
the brainwallet
ascii_field: in
that
they keep multiple copies of
their key around on
the planet (or worse, don't)
ascii_field: incidentally, most people are already using
the worst aspects of brainwallet -and- conventional crypto
☟︎ ascii_field: so no, i have no patience for
the 'brainwallets suck because you are stupid' argument.
ascii_field can even imagine 'disposable' computer for operating brainwallets.
thermite brick after each
transaction signature.
ascii_field: this is
the -real- difference between btc and gold
ascii_field: as it is, i would not
trust serious coin, were i
to have any,
to anything other
than brainwallet operated with optical keyboard connected
to soviet z80.
ascii_field: i can 'reduce entropy' of mircea_popescu's pgp key by
telling
that
the factors are odd. what of it.
ascii_field: so, in
this example, at least
two languages
mircea_popescu: and
the argument here isn't about "guessing", it's about reducing entropy.
ascii_field: go guess a bi- or
tri- lingual macaronic poem
that some fella wrote in his head as a boy.
mats: perhaps i am not
the right stand-in for
this conversation...
mats: not sure where we're going with
this, but ok
ascii_field: they don't need
to be generated on
the spot
mats: it can't be
that hard
mircea_popescu: let's work
this out. ascii_field would you agree
that
the mental cost PER UNIT of generating five random bytes is larger
than generating six ?
mircea_popescu: the only reason we're here is
that
they're
too stupid
to understand
they need
to negotiate, and yesterday, or for
that matter
to correctly evaluate
their hand
mircea_popescu: ascii_field if you were fuhrer we wouldn't be at war in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: "the limit on open source is
the open sourcer's willingness and ability
to read code - so put more code in
there!11"