asciilifeform: containing, i shit thee not, a twatter feed, even, with words '“The public was never in danger and the safety and security of the Minuteman system was never in doubt,” said Col. Matthew Dillow, 90th Missile Wing vice commander.'
asciilifeform: i have nfi. they're supposed to have a few choppers, apc's, etc. on top of the usual trucks.
asciilifeform: claim is that they're 8min drive away, iirc. ( what happens if >1 tube rings alarm? stop asking, terrorist )
asciilifeform: phunphakt, unlike ye olde su, usg does not station permanent guards around the land launchers; only chain link fence with alarm; there's 1 set of guards per N tubes and they gotta drive to it when bell rings.
asciilifeform: the land-based rockets are a joke within a joke, even usg assigns the saddest sacks of sads, explicitly, to the detail
asciilifeform: ( thermite-welding the hatch closed also worx wonders, asciilifeform's father as a grunt in su was trained for, among others, this party trick )
asciilifeform: because 'intruder/attacker' will do something other than drop a frag in the shaft and leave.
asciilifeform: lol re 'February 2016 photo, members of the 790th Missile Security Forces Squadron demonstrate their training for recapturing a Minuteman missile silo after being taken over by an intruder/attacker'
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 i get eggog '#trilema-mod6 (Channel is invite only)'
asciilifeform: shinohai: if yer gonna do the 'i have own parallel qntra' thing nao, at least try to 'scoop' the events ~before~
asciilifeform: we can leave fleanode to the worms and flies , and jump into pizzarro + mircea_popescu's box + wherever else , within a day of mircea_popescu giving signal.
asciilifeform: incidentally asciilifeform was going through notebooks and found a theoretical nugget that iirc hasn't been posted. 1w of shortwave, using the error code discussed in prev thread, can propagate trans-continentally ( i.e. easily new york to montevideo ) . and can easily come out of unattended ( solar, thermal-charged ) box , at ~day intervals, hanging from tree in woods, illicitly glued into wall at tower construction site, etc
asciilifeform: trinque: in garage in new york -- yes. in garage in costa rica -- harder. in garage in montevideo -- you have to bring suitcase from newyork...
asciilifeform: trinque: i was digesting the linked item as the product it offers, first
asciilifeform: trinque: for these, you want motorcycle motor, at most
asciilifeform: ( tupolev -- solved. supposedly. but still resulted in massively lower power/mass than petrol engine of the period. )
asciilifeform: diesel cycle has own problems at altitude.
asciilifeform: fwiw tupolev ~did~ make a flying diesel. stalin scrapped it, as just-barely-+ev
asciilifeform: trinque: your 'cessna' , it has 2 sets of sparks, etc.
asciilifeform: auto engine not only not built for the type of load ( and , srsly, what will do , gearbox it to the prop ?! ) , but hasn't the redundancies that even in 1920s flyers correctly insisted on ( e.g. two separate magneto )
asciilifeform: trinque: mostly orthogonally to this thread , your linked airplane maker pattern matches the chilean fortress vapour-scamola
asciilifeform: but yes if FG had been instead commissioned by mircea_popescu in his capacity as vp of mitsubishi, he would never see this . at least not with own eyes, it would show up as http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733631 factor .☝︎
asciilifeform: rrright because when asciilifeform's fab house sent back proto-FG repeatedly with poor reflow and dud analogue board, asciilifeform complains 'from certain mental structure' and not because imbeciles all the way down like turtles on elephants.
asciilifeform: i did not say 'has no clue'. but observe, 'compains re manufacture difficulty' does happen in proportion to actual involvement with own hands.
asciilifeform: but if mircea_popescu says he did -- i'll believe him
asciilifeform: no. if we're doing 'can stalin make planes faster than hitler can shoot'em down, using only own minerals' scaling down to garage, you do NOT get to do the '3d printer' enthusiast thing and conveniently exclude copper coils in motors etc.
asciilifeform: trinque: d00d makes the engine also ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun object in re the thermodynamics , but re the kinetics. we ain't there. yet.
asciilifeform: ( why restrict to marketing ~only~ shared box )
asciilifeform: it's pretty good; imho ought to also mention colo option
asciilifeform: ( possibly side item : not sure which ben_vulpes item is being referred to ; rockchip trivially copies own os to fresh unit as many times as you like )
asciilifeform: anything whatsoever is possible, and with the illusion of infinity, if somebody else does the work.
asciilifeform: it's entailed by the 'infinite leverage from finite hands with machinery' item.
asciilifeform: errybody loves the theoretical possibility, of 'robot army'; but afaik the problem of 'self-copying robot' (specifically iron, vs meat) was posed by von neumann and remains exactly in same place today as where he left it.
asciilifeform: ( wunderwaffen, somehow, did not help. )
asciilifeform: it is entirely troo that 500 mn ameri-derps who know only how to press tv remote button, are of little use against 5mn actual people. but 500mn actual people would demolish 5.
asciilifeform: this is not the point of disagreement; rather the 'gigantic populations are obsolete' item
asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder whether mircea_popescu is posting from a far alt-fyootoor where software actually works, where robots actually maintain selves, rather than being the end product of 500 people working around the clock, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-26#935358☝︎
asciilifeform: let's suppose. now it's time to mine, and transport. he does with own hands? with army of self-maintaining and self-replicating robots from yr 3000 ? or which.
asciilifeform: joe from two states down can't agree on the price. and we both get encircled and hang. or he's using his moly to make kitchen knives to sell to orcs , it's +ev for him, he thinks. or, other possible variants.
asciilifeform: i dun have a molybdenum mine in house. or the rest, etc
asciilifeform: why? because neighbours started the party, why.
asciilifeform: sorta why cherokee-style 'let's hunt' doesn't work , the folx who can fly choppers will pick you off, leisurely, with thermovisor and downward flechette rounds right through the tree cover.
asciilifeform: jp teenagers self-checkout in packs, erry yr at exam week. jp still sinking into deep hole of sad.
asciilifeform: conceivably this is a 'sufficiently smart compiler'(tm)(r) item.
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'tiny but clever population standing up to maxint orcs by way of robot and deathray' is ~the~ american geofantasy; isn't working out so well for them
