asciilifeform: however it is not necessarily the case that it'd be a total writeoff. a irc frontend for gossip station would ( iirc we discussed this ) not be useless, it would eliminate the chore of writing chat clients
asciilifeform: ( then apparently trinque fixed this and asciilifeform slept through )
asciilifeform: ( or am i mistaken ? trinque , if can't use nick, can still auth with deedbot ? or not )
asciilifeform: iirc we still have a nonfatal headache potential baked in, if fleanode walks away somebody's nick
asciilifeform: 'Unfortunately, some people have used this opportunity to spread some misinformation, claiming that "all passwords have been released". This is not the case; there has been no threat to account security due to this incident. Additionally, we do not store passwords in a recoverable form at all.' << i've a bridge to sell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that , and last week's , and at least 1nce between the 2
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's pill, of limiting payload mass per shot, is prolly The Right Thing ( tho keep in mind that, given the erratic block production of typical shitfork, it will make for a quite slow and volatile dumping )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i seem to recall electrum being one of those turds that ~nobody was able to get to even build, and ~all of the users used a binturd, which at least 1nce turned out to contain straight back orifice
asciilifeform: lol re fleanode -- this was at least... 3rd time? ( and that's merely since asciilifeform tuned in )
asciilifeform: sorta like, you dun care necessarily if somebody steals a turd that a bird shat into your garden. but on other hand, if somali pirates steal a tanker of guano from your guano fleet...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i guess we can revisit this hypothesis when somebody asks your bot to transmute 100btc worth of shitcoin, and hostile upstream node bamboozles yer electrum into sending it to hitler.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun think i've ever driven anything but 'beater car'
asciilifeform: if you wouldn't move own bitcoin this way, why wouldja move own shitcoin (worth, nominally, a qty of bitcoin) with it.☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. you are relying on somebody else's node .
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: same problem applies to using it to move shitcoins, as in bitcoin
asciilifeform: you are operating nodeless, in effect, when you use it as replacement for own node.
asciilifeform: ( the folx running the 'shitcoin is worth something' theatre, have substantial interest in nobody actually running nodes but themselves , etc , this prolly is obvious to the alert reader )
asciilifeform: setting up nodes to actually do the deed of shitcoin removal and movement, for instance, is ( at least in asciilifeform's experience last summer ) a first class bitch
asciilifeform: sorta was my point : it isn't that no one can build a convenient ( from user pov ) transmutation reactor ! it can be built. but operation will inevitably involve good deal of regular sweat from the operator, negating most of the automation.
asciilifeform: i suspect the result will be interesting mostly as a 'journal of negative results' item. ( gox, for instance, can quietly swallow coin, once it cottons on to who's using api, and why . asciilifeform's acct, last time around, was -- interestingly -- closed by goxkeeper , tho a coupla days too late to have any effect )
asciilifeform: it can be worked around, but game is probably not worth the candles, considering what folx are typically willing to pay for transmuting shitcoin
asciilifeform: they appear to. however they also insist on various idiocies, 'accounts', '2factor'-whatevers, various caltrops to attempt to prevent precisely such automation
asciilifeform: ( obvious problem -- the 'buyers' aint human, they consist solely of goxen, quite likely. still could outsource the chore of ferrying shitcoin to gox, and consider the two subsystems as independent )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking re detail of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819365 : theoretically a pure shitcoin<->btc transmutator, does not need gox in the loop, if shitcoin ~buyers~ could be persuaded to visit it and buy☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's FUCKGOATS, btw, not FUCKGOAT ( re: your post )
asciilifeform: but afaik nobody's hands are free for this presently.
asciilifeform: mod6 et al : i'm still interested in , at least in theoretical stage, a less-retarded replacement for dieharder
asciilifeform: mod6: definitely, turn it into a blogpost
asciilifeform: ^ now has link to mod6 , danielpbarron , trinque , and BingoBoingo 's FG tests. if anyone else posted FG tester outputs and i missed -- please write in !
asciilifeform: 'Fuck your world where there's no place for me, I thought in despair. If I can't destroy it, at least I'll die a fine death in the attempt, along with others like me. I had no concrete image of how this would come about, but from past experience I knew that he who seeks fate is always provided an opportunity; I would not remain without one.'
asciilifeform: the translator sweated, however : 'My girl they will snatch / From the car by the nape / And I will then watch / The men commit rape '
asciilifeform: he was poet like yer dog is a sculptor.
asciilifeform: ( spoiler: d00d eventually went back to ru, had a beer hall putsch of sorts, jailed, sat, wrote buncha lulz, 1000s of pg of lulz, got out, now fringe politics d00d who walks around with swastica-hammersickle hybrid thing, sums to -- afaik -- 0 )
asciilifeform: enuff for the l0gz. who wants moar? go, read, weep.
asciilifeform: ves, sell yourselves into the slavery of work, because of your vulgar plaid pants, because you make money and have never seen the world. You're shit!'
asciilifeform: 'Who was I over there? What's the difference, what would it change? I hate the past, as I always have, in the name of the present. Well, I was a poet, if you must know, a poet was I, an unofficial, underground poet. That's over forever, and now I am one of yours, I am scum, I'm the one to whom you feed shchi and rotten cheap California wine – $3.59 a gallon – and yet I scorn you. Not all of you, but many. Because you lead dull li
asciilifeform: 'You don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's precious little – $278 a month. You don't want to pay. Then why the fuck did you invite me, entice me here from Russia, along with a horde of Jews? Present your complaints to your own propaganda, it's too effective. That's what's emptying your pockets, not I.'
asciilifeform: where he, e.g., : 'I am on welfare. I live at your expense, you pay taxes and I don't do a fucking thing. Twice a month I go to the clean, spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and receive my checks. I consider myself to be scum, the dregs of society, I have no shame or conscience, therefore my conscience doesn't bother me and I don't plan to look for work, I want to receive your money to the end of my days. And my name is Edichka
asciilifeform: naa ^this one is autobio, from his time in usa
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-28#1819298 << during the 1st lolfork, i did this for self, and for a friend, prolly time to revv up the relevant tool again ( if anybody ~really~ doesn't feel like doing his own: gpggram asciilifeform, we'll work something out )☝︎
asciilifeform: it also forces the use of their oddball partition scheme
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1819048 << in abstract it's great; but in the concrete case it requires GB of google liquishit tooling to be kept around so as to sign kernels ( unless somebody wants to rewrite and follow the gnarly format.. )☝︎
asciilifeform: lobbes: lol! last i knew, pseudo-analogue clocks were 'retro-chic' and 'hip'... i guess no moar
asciilifeform: trinque: d00d seems to suffer from some bizarre compulsion, to leave the 'am what i am' clue
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform bit through the camwhores nonsense after shot #3 or so
asciilifeform: !Q later tell douchebag if you think the faux-camwhores approach will work to make a 'backup' identity for self, this time with new flavouring -- 1) it won't 2) drop it 3) this is good road to -10
