log☇︎
46000+ entries in 0.014s
asciilifeform: it demanded a musltronic linux to run on
asciilifeform: that last one, is what was broken in last build
asciilifeform: right, unavoidable byproduct
asciilifeform: what's needed is : 1) runs-on-amd64-of-any-kind-builds-static-musl-for-amd64 2) runs-on-arm64-of-any-type-builds-static-musl-for-arm64
asciilifeform: ave1: plz say specifically , what this builder will output ( what types of gnats? listed by 'runs on X' and 'builds Y-type executables' )
asciilifeform: ok, but it barfed during patching, ~2 seconds into build.
asciilifeform: ( nobody, presently, has a multronic gentoo for arm, so the dynamic-musl thing was 100% junk )
asciilifeform: what do you mean, 'does work', it didn't produce anything i can run on arm64
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman is waiting for the amd64 one.
asciilifeform: ( musl-outputting amd64 also, however )
asciilifeform: ave1: that's specifically the item i'm interested in.
asciilifeform itches to supply folx with ready-to-eat gnat-on-rockchip, both on pizarro cluster and in the flensed c101pa box
asciilifeform: ave1: lemme know when you got the real deal ready for test.
asciilifeform: ave1: you wouldn't be the first to tar up wrong dir for a release, lol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1658941 << in related vintagelulz. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the others being the z-whatevers, 2 of'em and i can't recall how they differed, the one with 'z-snark' and other other, with the magical rng seed)
asciilifeform: at any rate, in so far as i can tell 'monero' is simply 1 of 3 or 4 tor-style honeypots for the dimwitted 'death ray plot' candidates in the shitcoin space.
asciilifeform: 'redditus loads up on doge without any such explanations; so why not these folk also' i suspect was it.
asciilifeform: he seemed puzzled by the very idea of an audience that demands an explanation of mechanism.
asciilifeform: see linked thread, d00d tapped out at 'go read paper', when asciilifeform:'yes i read paper, now say how ring sig doesn't slowly leak' and fluffypony:'[various squid ink]'
asciilifeform: ( oblig : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=405 ! )
asciilifeform: results / resources
asciilifeform: what's the intended model.
asciilifeform: i find it a puzzler, what the cartoon these folx are watching inside their heads, even ~is~. (e.g. it ain't as if, say, lenin, 'accomplished' by 'normal people visiting')
asciilifeform: 'if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal' etc.
asciilifeform: derp swallowed 'headcountism', all else follows, neh.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-05#1422814 << the , imho, revealing thread with subj. ☝︎
asciilifeform: !#seen fluffypony
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-30#1819745 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1703064 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ( last time i bothered to look, it was also a sort of final refuge of botnet artists, being one of the few major shitcoins that has not yet been raped by chinese asic makers )
asciilifeform: troo, more or less all usg scamola has a designated 'author' who, however, even if wired to the mains cannot give an arithmetically consistent statement of how it works ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc he perpetrated it, not simply 'defected to'
asciilifeform: ah lol that
asciilifeform: !#s xmr
asciilifeform: wtf is xmr anyway.
asciilifeform: ( if anyone forgot -- this is the weev crackpottery, that somehow oh-we-must-use-dns etc )
asciilifeform: in other lulz, via BingoBoingo's links, 'The Daily Stormer is being sued by Jewish terrorists. In order to survive, we need shekels. Send BTC or XMR. This site will be shut down if we don’t win this.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 your newest tarball barfs : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5FS6l/?raw=true << gmp demands a patch that can't be found, hangs with prompt ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( at least lacks the melodramatic 'warcraft II' bg of the prev item )
asciilifeform: https://youtu.be/lXif1YplU7c << slightly better track, imho.
asciilifeform: i went to look for voice, this was the only one that didn't, apparently , do it with mouth full...
asciilifeform: upstack in re Muma lui Ștefan cel Mare -- https://youtu.be/qNoc1-jk2sU
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/muma-lui-stefan-cel-mare/#comment-125841
asciilifeform didnt drive there either, lol
asciilifeform: objectively odd, ye olde bbet was not only still in the saddle but riding at its peak...
asciilifeform remembers finding it odd that kako did not appear at c3
asciilifeform: even v, started at end of aug of '15 -- months after c3
asciilifeform: ( c2 feels, to asciilifeform , even 'longer ago', epochally -- even such a basic thing as trb, say, did not yet exist )
asciilifeform: possibly feels like this because, i suppose, different epoch.
asciilifeform: mod6: apr 2015
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm almost surprised you dun write it with http://www.loper-os.org/pub/podvig_radista.jpg terminal. ☟︎
asciilifeform: emacs is a massively tall rock of local maximum surrounded by ocean of boiling liquishit.
asciilifeform hasn't met many emacsists who say anything other than 'i use grudgingly'
asciilifeform: Mocky: there's quite a few folx here who use non-emacs editors
asciilifeform: of the thing that you read.
asciilifeform: jurov: plz consider posting a signed (with disclaimers, if you like) tarball ?
asciilifeform: ok, ty.
asciilifeform: and you read it ?
asciilifeform: electrum.
asciilifeform: are you or are you not using a binturd to generate shitcoin transactions.
asciilifeform: jurov please don't dance around my q, you know exactly what i'm asking
asciilifeform: i mean the item you mentioned above. that generates tx.
asciilifeform: so jurov you actually got electrum to build ?
asciilifeform: jurov: and how do you know what the transaction the closedblob output, is ? i.e. that it goes to the addr you gave (i.e. the gox's) rather than some other ?
asciilifeform: jurov: what means 'only the code' ?
asciilifeform: ( cursory look at heathendom sources suggests that thiel's thing is finally, as of mar. 2018, properly dead and buried )
asciilifeform: thiel, apparently, built ( threatened to build? i dun follow the subj... ) a tanker, anchor somewhere, and play similar game to orig 'sealand' . what he lacks, however is the business model ( apparently sealand had a business model, and raked in some dough , briefly -- britain had no commercial radio, at one time, and sealand 'pirate' station accepted ads from brits , paid through proxies )
asciilifeform: also revealed ( not in confidence, this was party with buncha folx ) that thiel ( apparently, friend of his ) is still pushing it, and is frustrated re 'lack of young people with any sense' , 0 takers to crew the lulztanker.
asciilifeform: then he conceded, more or less, that the whole 'micro-nations' crackpottery, was lame, for more or less the reasons described by mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: d00d in his, iirc, 90s. so i ask him about ye olde 'sealand isp'. he waves hand, 'eh, was lame, they could do nothing serious because upstream net access was easily cut'
asciilifeform: 'quit , didn't want to be yet another grunt on yet another particle collider', went into ordinary engineering.
asciilifeform: turns out, he's burned out ex-physics , 1960s mit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in recent lulz : asciilifeform ran into the d00d in http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-start-your-own-country-adnotated/ , in meatspace
asciilifeform: all 6 units currently occupied !
asciilifeform: upstack : congrats to BingoBoingo , subscriber of the last ( in pilot plant ) rockchip !!
asciilifeform: ( without which, lulzily, won't even see usg.google.* )
asciilifeform: trinque: dun forget to install the usg root certs!111111
asciilifeform: ahaha yes the 'science' where 'can haz rawdata.txt ?' 'fuckoff terrorist'
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform works on expanding it, but it is a very painful uphill climb )
asciilifeform: the set of 'meanings derived from meaning' accessible in practical work is quite small.
asciilifeform: full src is in all of the rk boxen.
asciilifeform: the only variant src item is the kernel ( it has rockchip-specific modules )
asciilifeform: there's nothing specifically arm-istic about it, either, same tarballs as used on x86 boxen
asciilifeform: ^ yes, there is a asciilifeform-signed curated gentoo set !
asciilifeform: ^ signed, observe, as 'found turd'
asciilifeform: anyone who doesn't have it -- can extract it trivially from http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 ball
asciilifeform: ( keeping in mind that it includes no musltronicity patches )
asciilifeform: trinque: imho the rockchip set is your best bet then. it is as minimal as i knew how to make.
asciilifeform: and also incidentally, every rockchip box contains a complete /usr/portage/distfiles reflecting every single item present on that box ( as i emerged world prior to making master image )
asciilifeform: ( on dulap, it's only 900MB, incidentally )
asciilifeform: trinque: would there be value in offering my /usr/portage/distfiles as a mirror ?
asciilifeform: aaaaaaa tarballs
asciilifeform: trinque: moved out ?
asciilifeform: incidentally i have ave1's latest tarball queued up for testing at nightfall.
asciilifeform: right; however i do not currently grasp where it fits in ( i delivered and gentooized a large amd64 box for s.mg; thought it was to be eulora server )
asciilifeform: ( or was mircea_popescu trying to put it on arm box , and waiting for arm gnat ? )
asciilifeform: hm i thought the eulora server was up and going ??
asciilifeform: trinque: it's a valid q imho, tho, whether an adatronic irc oughta be baked
asciilifeform: ( naturally you'd run the frontend on localhost strictly )
asciilifeform: so potentially the genesis would not be junk, but could be productively reused.