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mircea_popescu: IN TIME!
mircea_popescu: i can walk backwards faster than you can
mircea_popescu: tachyon man i'm tachyon man
asciilifeform: (sf twist! mircea_popescu's bitcoind is therealbitcoin 1.000, transmitted backwards in time!!1111!!1)
mircea_popescu: how the fuck would she be a movie star if she weren't ?
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Logged on 23-06-2015 23:47:40; pete_dushenski: does anyone ever not sign the papers ? <<< nobody you'd ever hear about.
asciilifeform used to work with a buncha those
mircea_popescu: eventually people get old, so they sit around an' compare.
mircea_popescu: it's a movie about old texas families
asciilifeform wonders how mircea_popescubitcoind compares with therealbitcoin_asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: yeah, kinda why i'm bothering. this is the mother of them all.
asciilifeform: it'll be an honour, to sync from that!
mircea_popescu: i dun think i ever said anything about that. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well yes, but what's in there? mircea_popescu's pdp-11 port ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i wanted to use perhaps the oldest chain still in continuous existence
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: should revv up just in time for somebody to finally make sense of the static build thing, lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coupla days is apparently like two weeks. blockchain's about 1/4 there tho
mod6: tomorrow i'm going to create a new gentoo AMI with the stage3 from 20150610
asciilifeform: mod6: thus far i'm stumped. will probably have to replicate your entire setup to get to the bottom of this (assuming you haven't yet)
asciilifeform: https://chloe.re/2015/06/20/a-month-with-badonions << lulzy. but for some reason author did not consider the possibility that isps snort downstream from known tor exits ☟︎
mod6: and I can confirm that the ebuild has DOPIC=y in it's default .config: http://dpaste.com/1GB0GFK.txt
mod6: anyway, ran it again, same error. and it looks to me that PIC should be compiled in by default.
mod6: this is what the help screen says for this option ^^
mod6: in the menuconfig, this is selected by default:
mod6: although one thing in there allows for usage of arc4random (a note for later maybe) but i left it unselected.
mod6: oh and during a "manual" build, it pops up with a ncurses config screen, i just used the defaults.
asciilifeform: mod6: post the build log from 'doesn't compile' ?
mod6: if I add a simple patch file for the -fPIC to /etc/portage/patches/sys-lib/<patchfile> and then emerge uclibc, then it builds, but the outcome is the same of the bitcoind compilation
mod6: but then it doesn't compile.
mod6: it patches cleanly, and then I add -fPIC to the makefile as shown before.
mod6: well, so here's the deal. I can't get it to compile "by hand". meaning, that if i extract the 2 bzip'd files for uclibc: uClibc-0.9.33.2.tar.bz2 & uClibc-0.9.33.2-patches.tar.bz2 and then patch the former with the latter with something like this: for i in `ls ../patch/*.patch | sort` ; do patch -p1 < ../patch/$i ; done
mod6: i'll try again
mod6: i got the same error as before asciilifeform. maybe i screwed something up.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: yeah. not the best tool but seems like a less shitty effort to show version strings offered by things purporting to be bitcoin nodes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for some reason i don't see the total count...
BingoBoingo: Apparently Luke-Jr has a node version census thing which unlike bitnodes.io isn't limiting itself completely to Hearniated nodes http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/software.html
mod6: think something like this will work?
mod6: ok we'll take this back to pm
trinque: mod6: equery tells you that, I think, and lots of other useful stuff
trinque: if not you could maybe start the build then kill it, then go there and hax
trinque: there's probably a flag to have it dump out the goods there, but not build
trinque: that's where the ebuilds are
mod6: trinque: you think what i'm looking for (at least the ebuilds for uclibc) are in here? /usr/portage/sys-libs/uclibc?
asciilifeform: ^ also re: the old 'real asic or not' threads
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mats http://cmosfold.blogspot.com/2013/01/ftdi-ft232rl.html << possibly also of interest
thestringpuller: anti-chumpatron is the only term i can think of
thestringpuller: i guess it's more of a "vibe" kinda thing. the "doesn't fuck around staying focused" kinda vibe.
asciilifeform does not remember saying this
thestringpuller: well for instance she was talking about valentina tereshkova, and said something like, "She's petitioning putin to go to mars, cause the russians, they stay focused"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: been watching this dumb netflix show "Orange is the new black" the russian mobster woman says a lot of the same stuff you do.
mod6: i usually do that too.
asciilifeform: (esp. considering that we will eventually 'vendor' - to use ben_vulpes's terminology - uclibc)
asciilifeform: in cases like this, i build the old-fashioned way and only then screw with ebuilds
trinque: mod6: could patch the Makefile using that patches mechanism
asciilifeform: !up thestringpuller
mod6: trinque: any idea how to do that? (recompile uclibc with a specific flag?)
asciilifeform: now try rebuilding uclibc with it...
asciilifeform: and it's uclibc that has to be recompiled with that flag
mod6: yeah exact same message, but i don't see the -fPIC flag in there... maybe im not adding that in there correctly?
mod6: maybe im wrong about that.
mod6: last i recall i did this, i got the exact same message...
mod6: i can add -fPIC in there quick and try again though
mod6: we're still dealing with this error.
asciilifeform: what was the output ?
mod6: yeah, weeks ago I did try to recompile with -fPIC
asciilifeform: speaking of uclibc here, rather than gcc
mod6: and ben didn't like the idea of using anything >4.8.4
mod6: well, i tried v4.9.2 and that didn't work either.
asciilifeform: didja try the 'recompile with -fPIC' thing ?
asciilifeform: ... /net.cpp:240: warning: gethostbyname is obsolescent, use getnameinfo() instead. << this is pre-dnsnuke, aha ?
mod6: guess like we're gonna have to get this patch to work
mod6: 4.5.4 failed to build just as the others did: http://dpaste.com/0P88CGV.txt
asciilifeform: ^ there.
assbot: Protecting Us From A 'Terrorist' Who Made Pure Silver Coins: The Bernard von NotHaus Case - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/1LsKgyG )
asciilifeform: or hm, there isn't a link.
mod6: ok gcc 4.5.4 is built... trying...
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 23:47:40; pete_dushenski: does anyone ever not sign the papers ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173727 << the folks dragged into the star chamber thus far, afaik, are not 'the brightest bulbs' ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu do we have a seed yet ?
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 22:27:30; ben_vulpes: so jasmine-node installed globally across a user's system isn't accessible from /within/ the node environment
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173698 << wtf is that. for a sec i thought it had to do with bitcoin nodes, but turns out it's some random turd, l0l ☝︎
mats: when you've got a chance, i'd like a look at some of those links
asciilifeform: mats: the physical part of the process is the real bitch
asciilifeform: mats: there were experiments with standard cell libs & ocr. sadly i haven't any links handy
mats: asciilifeform: is there any useful automation for reversing from si?
pete_dushenski: williamdunne given the rebirth of the rebirth of scoopbot, we sorta figured as much ;)
pete_dushenski: does anyone ever not sign the papers ? ☟︎
scoopbot_revived: Carl Mark Force IV to Plead Guilty http://qntra.net/2015/06/carl-mark-force-iv-to-plead-guilty/
assbot: Wal-Mart, American bellwether, and the Confederate flag - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1RuCMd9 )
trinque: not that others shouldn't rebuild, but rather that there'll at least be a way to quickly stand up a new dev environment later, if ya want it
trinque: and then reuse those elsewhere
trinque: mod6: once there's a rubber-stamped set of packages, there's a way to create binary packages on gentoo
mod6: i can't even imagine how long it would take on that POS box i bought. probably 16.
mod6: ok that build is going... should take ~4 hours.
mod6: If this dones't help (i doubt it will), I'll need to make another AMI with a recent stage3 and try to shoehorn in this gcc patch I made.
mod6: looks like many of the much older < 4.3 ebuilds don't allow for hardened (unless I'm mistaken here). I'm gonna try 4.5.4.
mod6: so gcc-3.4.6-r2 will not build with "hardened" set as an option, although uclibc can still be used. we do want "hardened" i would think.
ben_vulpes: FUCK EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THIS SHITPIEL
ben_vulpes: but if you install it locally, it just quietly fails to run the tests
ben_vulpes: so jasmine-node installed globally across a user's system isn't accessible from /within/ the node environment ☟︎