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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 https://7chan.org/pr/src/The_Little_Schemer_4th_2.pdf << a real joy of a b00k, i taught a gurl scheme once from it
asciilifeform: la is their way of life and they wonder why nothing can ever get done because all available time and any available resources get wasted in an effort to sort a group. (The Italians are the exact same way, by the way, and from what I hear the Greeks idem.)' << from mircea_popescutron
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359085 << thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389935 << see thread ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://topynate.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/note-on-the-block-size-limit/ << not terrible.
mircea_popescu: "The ?little guy? now possesses a large amount of anger about the political system that doesn't work for him, which shouldn?t be surprising since he repeatedly voted against his own interests during the republican tenure. " <<< aaaahahahaha.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390962 << it is ; it also pulls a ton of miserable dependencies (graphics!) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390950 << more complicated than that. all in good time, except the boys keep getting excited and outrunning the horses! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390931 <<< how would this work, i don't follow ? you plan to host a farm of various arches etc, and run automated build and test scripts on it with each release ? patch ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390908 << mno. the idea is that "code usable by other people" is nonsense. instead - write code well, that SHOULD be usable, and if it isn't usable the people can be fixed. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390907 << a) variety of implementation is considered good for security ; b) community of usage should be user driven not developer driven (or GOD FORBID) design mandated. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390901 << i think this is by now well agreed upon :) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284 << see points 2, 3, 5.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390875 << i'd be surprised if you actually can ever find this. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390865 << i actually never saw this. wtf is this ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390980 << i remember asking for this some time last year ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390867 << no, i mean moving all stuff downsteream to depend on a' rather than a. this is rebasing the stuff downstream : from a base in a to a base in a'. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390862 << pretty much exactly that. as per https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Branching-Rebasing ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 06:54:12; ben_vulpes: http://www.northofreality.com/secrets/ << bit of a shame that aramcheck's not in the wot and on patreon, i like his weirdfic.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390849 << prolly should tell the man. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://lesswrong.com/lw/p0/to_spread_science_keep_it_secret << one of these pieces by y
asciilifeform: http://lesswrong.com/lw/lr/evaporative_cooling_of_group_beliefs << original piece on same
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 14:48:21; mircea_popescu: http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-99/ << this guy is fucking epic lol. "go is gone. Yudkowsky sounds the alarm." and links a fb posting.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390987 << mega-unsurprise ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390848 << http://trilema.com/2016/what-is-the-leyla-black/ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-99/ << this guy is fucking epic lol. "go is gone. Yudkowsky sounds the alarm." and links a fb posting. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390952 << among other things, ofc) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << i swear i saw some mentione of this earlier but cannot find it now. for those playing along at home, the sig name for these patches that will please v.pl is <patchname>.vpatch.<signatory's_wot_handle>.asc
ben_vulpes: punkman: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html << in there
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:41:43; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389596 << what would this be good for? you are welcome to sign + post the binaries to ml yourself
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389213 << gotta figure out a way to minimize the re-grinding imho ☝︎
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390083 < might be good as a separate utility. cuts down on v.pl dependencies too. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:43:08; phf: gpg: key 59C36319: public key "Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org>" imported ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 18:26:28; jurov: <punkman> asciilifeform: there are more "server ARM" things coming out... << you really want like, 64 shitty cores on the workstation instead of 4x x86?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390737 < I've been considering that for a while, but I'm not really into junkyard-wars ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://www.northofreality.com/secrets/ << bit of a shame that aramcheck's not in the wot and on patreon, i like his weirdfic. ☟︎
gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 48 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <nubbins`> <+mircea_popescu> in other news, chick on okcupid : "porque no me escribis en castellano << they say castellano in peru too, but if i'm not mistaken this is not universal in south america?
pete_dushenski: "Then in Davos I joined people like Kevin Spacey, and Jimmy Wales (the founder of Wikipedia) on a panel talking about cyber-security. The general sense in the room is that a distributed, encrypted database like the blockchain could be key to creating a more secure computing environment and a more secure world." << now i get why reporters call ~me~ a "security expert", because motherfucking 60yo actors are sittin
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390737 << pcengines co. does this ! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390743 << i ain't keeping locally anything that won't push ~5000x5000 pixels ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390736 << dafuq, who uses mb vga for anything ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390735 << i have a very similar board here, a 'tyan' ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wait shouldn't shiva 2 be restated instead ? << this is probably a better. and its not even in the mirror at this point anyway.
BingoBoingo: https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/kcma-d8.html << Newly liberated board
mod6: <+asciilifeform> we did it for the db locks fix << this is fair. would have to had to regrind everything after last march :/
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i'd much prefer antimatter << this imho sets kindof an nasty precedent: just adding anitmatter patches, bloat for the tree. a hundred years from now there might be more anti-matter than matter patches!
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> ver 99999 is fine by me << yeah, this is fine. but the fact that it doesn't do what it should do isn't. i'll pull the patch tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu: it's sorta incredible that the fiatists who need infinite growth all want to cut their own throats with reduced consumption while tmsr~, who doesn't want anything to do with infinite growth, is buying and consuming like it's going out of style << actually, best estimate i can get puts TMSR GDP growth for 2015 somewhere around 450-500%. that's not 4.5-5%. it's not 45-50% either. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: assbot> Networking Equipment Designated Weapon System | << speaking of which, i fully expect the first usg-designed bitcoin miners to be designated exactly that.
pete_dushenski: mod6: in other news, i can't seem to get -setvernum to work either? or how can I tell that it worked? << hm. has anyone actually used 'version-strings' in praxis ? seems like several failed attempts now.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> so unless bitbet is now drafting and seeding their own proposals... << this isn't even new.
pete_dushenski: "The three vehicles averaged 1.5% lower mileage with E10, 2.2% lower mileage with E20, 5.1% lower mileage with E30" << from some study by the american coalition for ethanol.
mircea_popescu: "The DC neglected to turn the thing back on after SSD installation" <<< o.O
mircea_popescu: assbot> California Environmentalists Fight To Save Endangered Nuclear Plant <<< had to dbl take. then lulz floweth
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Yww_nYuFA << and in other videos, why NOT put a wwi airship engine WITH 3`000 LB-FT OF TORQUE in a 1905 fiat isotta fraschini ? seems reasonable.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dhjwWhlk5Q << left by a contravex commenter. i lollered. (for those who watch videos only)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389535 << that's... just horrendous. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: https://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/#b1 https://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/#b3 << same out address for 0conf and house bet !
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:39:47; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390320 <<< it's a lot easier to pretend cds are the golden standard of archival while sitting on a flac collection safely kept on a rpm hdd.
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390382 << absolute gold standard, nothing else even comes close. SO LONG AS we are talking about aluminum cd. ☝︎
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390334 << ahahahaha l0l sure ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> so in this sense mod6 it has my imprimatur that bothering to grok it isn't a waste of your finite time. << yeah, agreed, Sir.
mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> can we at least have the option of loading from local dir instead of www ? <<< now that is a very good idea.
mircea_popescu: ascii_rear> but eventually we ought to be able to do spiffy things like writing my memory usage grapher ~entirely in shiva~, etc << quite. once this is fully functional debugging in trb can not be matched, period. by anyone, anywhere, doing anything.
mod6: <+shinohai> ok mod6 test completed, did not have to set set the perl option before building << ok good deal, i assume that the PERL_MM_OPT thing is an evironment deal.
ascii_rear: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390322 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1350992 >> think more 'chip fab' than 'iphone assembly line' ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:18:57; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390077 << this is a bad idea inasmuch as it leaves my build process stranded, so i'll be stuck forever using current v and i suppose forever pressing 9996 then ?
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390327 << can we at least have the option of loading from local dir instead of www ? ☝︎
mod6: <+ascii_rear> mod6: see anything that doesn't make sense ? << not yet. was just poking through how you load this thing up (in src/shiva.h|.cpp) - also looking at how to define more operations
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390324 << scheduled maintenance on the box, removing pounds of dust ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2016 01:03:51; BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cd laughs at magnetic field, at electrostatic discharge, has nothing that self-oxidates if in inert atmosphere. << Been doing cleaning and have taken to playing pressed cd's that by many rights out not be playing. (not a single cd-r from mess has played yet, including a few 5+ year old "archival" turds)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390320 <<< it's a lot easier to pretend cds are the golden standard of archival while sitting on a flac collection safely kept on a rpm hdd. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: do you expect me to have korsgaard's key in my personal keyring when running build-bitcoind-V99996K.sh? << yup, this is how it works if we want to verify the buildroot package cryptographically.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390077 << this is a bad idea inasmuch as it leaves my build process stranded, so i'll be stuck forever using current v and i suppose forever pressing 9996 then ? << yeah, i read your comments earlier on this. part of "battle-ready" to me means not only that it has lordship blessing, but it doesn't break any security paradigms that we m ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390311 << yup that's how it works. simplicity is the mother of inventions. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2016#1390293 << sucks, huh. but good find. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390098 << it's altogether unclear to me how it isn't battle ready. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390077 << this is a bad idea inasmuch as it leaves my build process stranded, so i'll be stuck forever using current v and i suppose forever pressing 9996 then ? ☝︎☟︎
mod6: <+danielpbarron> what needs to be changed? just the url to the .sh ? or are some of the steps different now? << yeah, i think the steps are going to be fine, other than the URL to the new script (when we finally get it deedbotted) and the name of the script.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cd laughs at magnetic field, at electrostatic discharge, has nothing that self-oxidates if in inert atmosphere. << Been doing cleaning and have taken to playing pressed cd's that by many rights out not be playing. (not a single cd-r from mess has played yet, including a few 5+ year old "archival" turds) ☟︎
mod6: <+jurov> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin does not indicate the thing exists at all << this should probably say something separate about V. but the build script grabs it as part of the build & verify proces.
mod6: <+jurov> even v.pl, for that matter... :) << this is available in the ML & on the foundation homepage.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390047 << how do you feel about a slut walking around looking for a cock to suck ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 19:32:50; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390020 << they do get signed. seems a minor point, how you get them.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390128 << this is pointedly mistaken. pgp messages are ALSO signed, yet we use airgapped boxes. why? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390029 << da fuck are you on about, bitcoin nodes connect to internet. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1390020 << they do get signed. seems a minor point, how you get them. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389999 << just as it should be ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/29/white-house-tech-researcher-denied-security-clearance-edward-snowden-nsa << moar from the other usa
asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/ashk4n/status/693221584933363712 << i have no idea who he is/was, but this is hilarious
asciilifeform: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3027924/it-industry/obama-wants-4b-for-more-computer-science-education.html << from the l0ltr0ns
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389596 << what would this be good for? you are welcome to sign + post the binaries to ml yourself ☝︎☟︎
jurov: <punkman> asciilifeform: there are more "server ARM" things coming out... << you really want like, 64 shitty cores on the workstation instead of 4x x86? ☟︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> why the hell not ? << because i tried to kinda sorta do this already... buildroot is hardcoded to download (rsync) all of its deps and stuff it needs from net. we'd have to "hack" our own buildroot.
asciilifeform: 'Stallman, though, thought that it would be better discussed in private: "This a sensitive issue; it is best to discuss it without an audience."' << sad.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in fact i think it ought to be abolished and replaced with pressed silver cd. << im not sure how to build this excatly. this is part of what we wanna talk about next week.
asciilifeform: speaking of pc parts, found http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/15893/Novyj_korpus_Zalman_TNN500AF_ili_1_kilogramm_tishiny.html << ancient ru picture review of infamous ~entirely motherfucking silent~ pc chassis. good illustration of what this means. entirely unobtainable today at any price.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389788 << what would ben_vulpes like to know ? ☝︎
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6 and trinque as well << hacking the codebase? << I just build the statically linked bin with rotor via the build-bitcoind script that everyone uses.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389866 << correct. of pNohe, tablet, etc. rubbish. ☝︎