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asciilifeform: cure, if indeed possible, has to begin there.
asciilifeform: because multilayer psychosis ultimately rooted in 'mother will provide me with what to suckle' wedge.
asciilifeform: generally speaking incurably
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823338 << they have a 'seekoority is what comes in ssl bottle, it's how we seekoore our tor darkmarketrons' idiocy stack baked into their hindbrains ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'look ma i have linuxbios'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823343 << picture this, monkey man actually thought asciilifeform is a neet , satisfied with idea of hand-diddling 1 quasi-working,opensores-style box ☝︎
asciilifeform: either him or the other 'tpm is good for you' d00d
asciilifeform: i have hard time picturing him showing up again
asciilifeform: it is, innit
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: with the black sma cable.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/mb_top.jpg << in far upper right.
asciilifeform: wireless is the little iron shielded box in the corner, the thing 1 of the earlier folx referred to as 'm2'
asciilifeform: hammer objection was in re cr50, this massive toad that sits in the middle of the board b/w errything and damn near errything else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we're talking about different chips
asciilifeform: WIRELESS_GPIO_WLAN_POWER in vendor's turd.
asciilifeform: just found the wire.
asciilifeform: as in , did physically test yet ? nope
asciilifeform: ( rk3399 is a bog-standard rockchip, very similar to the one in pizarro pilot plant, but with 6 cores instead of 4 )
asciilifeform: the rest of the box is pretty simple matter, in comparison
asciilifeform: not on cr50
asciilifeform: see the pcb photos from earlier today.
asciilifeform: and have the box still run.
asciilifeform: aside from that, this is almost the perfect mircea_popescu lappy in this one respect : the 802.11 card is on own little dildo corner of pcb, you could prolly remove it with a saw.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yep. but see the caveat in $thread.
asciilifeform: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/ec/+/master/chip/g/hw_regdefs.h << register list ( warning: coupla MB ! )
asciilifeform: the tpm bullshit doesn't seem to use much (or any) custom logic, the crypto is in the c src
asciilifeform: it's the usb tty
asciilifeform: i found the custom periph btw, or at least 1 of them
asciilifeform: right.
asciilifeform: and you stuff it into a fpga with a couplae custom periphs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a pestilentially-common product; arm co licenses the .verilog
asciilifeform: this one is something like a xilinx but with metal rom instead of the usual LUT rom.
asciilifeform: well 'whitelabel arm' implies a proper physical one with the engraving sanded off. which i suspect this one is emphatically not.
asciilifeform: ( picture, an imp of satan actually reading and learning sumthin' )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-12#1823375 << except, it ain't a proper arm cortex, but a softcore-arm in (metallization)fpga. cuz i suspect somebody read the Logz re specificity-of-diddling ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'rapebook ser no 0001' or such.
asciilifeform: ( btw when it's Trooly Cured i'ma put it up for auction, mircea_popescu-style )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-12#1823382 << i accidentally nuked the trackpad on my current test unit, so i got this!11 ☝︎
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: http://volshebstvo.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/baba-yaga-pech.jpg << for ref.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm picturing the archaetypical baba yaga scoop
asciilifeform: more or less!11
asciilifeform: oda: you can start with today's , let's say from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822562 point, the last set of cr50 people ☝︎
asciilifeform: oda: you will definitely want to read the log ( http://btcbase.org/log/ ) and use the search box.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds versatile
asciilifeform: oda: hello ?
asciilifeform: !!up oda
asciilifeform: with which in 10 minutes you can verify that, yes, independent fucking fritz chip
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i still find it lulzy how google apparently banked on nobody outside of their heathen pit getting hold of the fucking debug hose. ☟︎
asciilifeform: or better yet, if they dun show signs of a half-working brain, just !!down , dun hesitate, 'ваше слово, товарищ маузер!'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ( and other awake folx ) , plz to point future 'fact checker' i_came_from_reddit folx, to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822821 + http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822990 etc, if i'm off in meatland ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584061 << see also. ☝︎
asciilifeform: not 1 would be caught dead giving half a shit re what it all adds up to
asciilifeform: one autist sqeals in delight designing shutter for the drone camera, another -- the rocket proximity cap, another -- likes to draw cute little octopi; etc
asciilifeform: see e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822328 re their public end. ☝︎
asciilifeform: usg cultivates these, from childhood
asciilifeform: they're exactly like eichmann, perfect little marvels of industrious compartmental schizoid ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: ever meet these folx in the flesh ?
asciilifeform: certainly.
asciilifeform: because somehow this is not insulting to the intelligence of the fucking fruit fly stuck to my display. not even speaking of the l1 lordship.
asciilifeform: it'd be one thing if, say, google dev showed up and 'yes i'ma pgp to mircea_popescu the magic key', or even 'here's the schem'. but nooo, instead they come to 'explain' to us how 'tpm can be used to benefit you' . ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823242 << naaah BingoBoingo , see, different thing. the crack smokers for the most part only burn ~own~ time. ~these~ folx, they want to burn yours, and mine. ☝︎
asciilifeform: they dun make tards, apparently even, like they used to. i swear , the tards from 10y ago were not this thick.
asciilifeform: the very notion that anything whatsoever happening on a nato-produced 22nm die is 'owner controlled'...
asciilifeform: 'pleeeze make it so only obama can read with nobus key!!'
asciilifeform: 'pleeeze, pleeeeeze make it secure from MY OWN HANDS!!!'
asciilifeform: upstack, observe the lulzfest, where http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823026 and then http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823205 demands fritz on-die in cpu ! for 'security!' ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: the nonseekrit -- with the bulk of the implementation detail.
asciilifeform: seekrit committee generally concerned with specifics of applications (i.e. anything where you gotta know the identity of intended victim, say)
asciilifeform: each wunderwaffen has a seekrit committee , with nsa-vetted gentry, and a larger nonseekrit ('commercial'), for ladling out grantolade to academics and quasiacademics
asciilifeform: (i.e. snarfing up that delish printolade like there's no tomorrow )
asciilifeform: in darpa land they do what in civilized world is called 'освоение бюджета'.
asciilifeform: afaik boneh et al are still there, still pushing the same lulzoil
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-15#1714991 << see also. ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1823179 << phunphakt, asciilifeform ( in ascii_butugychag period ) was a slave in precisely that bit of idiocy, sat in the peanut gallery at the derp committee, etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: aaha
asciilifeform: ^ dun forget what they're famous for..
asciilifeform: !#s libreboot
asciilifeform: and its continued derping with intel
asciilifeform: considering e.g. libreboot
asciilifeform: it isn't clear that all of their derpery has to date added up to any 'gets done'
asciilifeform: 'go to repair shop!' the cheek.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it isn't clear to me, what, if anything, these folx wanted, other than to waste our time.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: rotten old fungus man rms, you can say whatever about, but he was exactly on target re how this particular item will go, back in '97. first, 'it only stores keys, harmless!' ( and won't give'em up to usg Because Reasons ... ) then 'ok now it can rewrite fw' 'yer lying, they Would Never!11!!' '...'
asciilifeform: via nobus.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: somehow the derps obsess with 'wife replaced while you sleep' scenario. aaaand then go on to advocate elaborate tpmdildo that makes this scenario actually workable.
asciilifeform: *puzzled
asciilifeform: if anyone was puzzle re naggum's remark concerning 'read only brains' -- here they are!
asciilifeform apologizes to log reader for having allowed this waste of time to clutter the chan.
asciilifeform: in one ear and out the other, apparently . ☟︎
asciilifeform brb, teatime
asciilifeform: any other notion of 'root of trust' is fritzian.
asciilifeform: back upthread -- discussion of 'roots of trust' WILL start with , at the very MINIMUM, iron where i can fucking see the transistors through optical microscope. and never with anything else.
asciilifeform: if anybody told you otherwise, he is a dirty liar, and probably selling snake oil.
asciilifeform: ( and there is no known complexity class pindown of factoring. )
asciilifeform: there is not even a proof that the difficulty of rsa is equivalent to that of factoring.
asciilifeform: and in particular a reduction of ~every~ generated key, rather than avg case.
asciilifeform: at any rate there does not currently exist ANY usable crypto algo, of any purpose, for which a complexity class reduction to any class is known.