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mircea_popescu: nevermind "open source". honor the same lordship, therefore have well explained things, therefore have compatibility.
mircea_popescu: from now on, "compatibility through doing things a ~certain~ way, for good and ~well explained~ reasons".
mircea_popescu: the "compatibility through software length" thing has gone on long enough.
trinque: relatedly, here's a worthy task for an idle hand : find the oldest kernel you can boot on hardware you're willing to use ☟︎
trinque: later this can inform a process of muntzing shit off the kernel
trinque: bvt: would be great to put the config you produced on your blog with what hardware you use.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/socialist-mooches-striking-second-year-in-a-row-seeking-to-put-bigger-portion-of-wv-budget-in-their-pockets/ << Qntra -- Socialist Mooches Striking Second Year In A Row Seeking To Put Bigger Portion Of WV Budget In Their Pockets
shinohai: This trb addy I just generated for a payment: 1HANBox41dKXNhmdXsPgoYbbJgBqp86sCq "hanbox" lol
mircea_popescu: it's better to document the messing than not to.
asciilifeform: ^ for bonus lulz, it wasn't the 'iso std d&d fireball' but the http://trilema.com/2014/the-all-american-asshole-in-his-own-words-with-my-own-notes/#selection-1021.79-1025.1 thing, from what i gather was a 'mortal combat' clone of some type
asciilifeform prefers the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895439 site, at least was sorta entertaining ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile, in the "Your average guy" files: http://archive.is/loUn7
asciilifeform: recall, thrd where 'is it possible to make a bag of rngola that 1) exists in 2 copies 2) cannot be quickly read in transit to destination'
asciilifeform considered this yrs ago as a possible onetimepad scheme , but not satisfied that it could be repeatable enuff for digitize
asciilifeform: 1 slightly moar practical variant of this seal would be if could make the 'glitter' in the epoxy from kcl or other commonplace mild radioactive. then tape instant film over the chassis and develop/swap erry coupla months, and compare the liquishit to previous photo.
BingoBoingo: Well, it isn't unthinkable that 70 kg of deathray ends up being a fairly common castle ammenity
asciilifeform: you'd want pb foil over the packages, ideally
asciilifeform: ( plus dose the poor silicon erry time )
asciilifeform: the obv problem is that you need 70kg of deathray to verify the seal
asciilifeform: incidentally, asciilifeform was thinking, glitter + epoxy + xray == pretty good '3d' seal.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/misc/xray/dead_samsung_35kv_100s.jpg << to complete yest. thrd : the least rubbishy shot of the dead samsung. steel shell prolly calls for a scintillator screen , and large film, to actually get decent shot. but even here usbistic contacts sorta visible.
asciilifeform updated testfire piece ( die shot detail )
BingoBoingo: Ah, ty fixed the double You in that footnote
mircea_popescu: the mister god point is pretty fucking lulzy, not to mention accurate.
BingoBoingo: ^ Bed time
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/02/19/mundane-shit-i-took-for-granted-that-is-new/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Mundane Shit I Took For Granted That Is New
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-19#1898025 << actually pretty grainy ( the barbaric film is to blame ) but in the full res jpg can still see e.g. the au whiskers connecting ic pins to dies etc ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Also, local mystery in the barrio La Commercial https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/una-lluvia-de-disparos-y-el-terror-de-una-familia-de-tener-a-un-profugo-en-su-casa--201921819212
ave1: Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-18 08:56 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-18#1897858 -> ah, so broken links were only in the older versions? anyway: ave1 please do me a favour and point any fetch/download scripts to a mirror of the stuff on your own website, there is no way around this. For one thing I'd much rather download from a republican site and for the other as experience has already amply shown, any external site WILL move them, change them, drop them and it will at best br
ave1: diana_coman: re, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-18#1897863, will do, It's about 100mb total I see. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Downright pornographic. All it's missing is the shaved snatch!
ave1: asciilifeform, re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-18#1897899, a genesis of the build scripts or gcc?, with the build scripts we'll get diffs of diffs (which should work now) ☝︎
trinque: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/musl.git/log/app-editors/emacs?qt=grep&q=emacs << looks like youngest they had was 24.5, have sinced removed patches from the overlay claiming mainline works
trinque: asciilifeform: iirc last thing I built was in portage proper, built atop musl. this was probably a late and fungal version number
BingoBoingo: It has been a while. Turns out he got a job of sorts at a Confiteria. Sleeps in an actual bed most nights now. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Also tonight I saw the good bum mentioned http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/#footnote_1_2160 ☟︎
asciilifeform: are these posted ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:09 asciilifeform: for instance, emacs has yet to be cured, as i understand
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:50 mircea_popescu: some time to look at things and consider matters will be needed ; but i specifically want to hear something from asciilifeform ave1 bvt diana_coman phf spyked trinque
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 << glibc has been banned from my own machines for some time. haven't missed it on desktop workstation, server, embedded. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I did not join the group as it was composed of 4 dorks and 5 morbidly obese fem-presenting mayos.
BingoBoingo: In other news, taking my walk tonight I got the celebrity treatment for ~3 minutes. A group of local youth in the city for back to school asked me for directions and were thrilled to discover in Gringo in the wild who could indeed offer directions.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 14:14 bvt: trinque: genesis (does not verify) from successful cuntoo deployment: http://bvt-trace.net/src/genesis-14.02.2019.vpatch
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897392 << cool, snagged and will dissect. did the bootstrapped system boot for ya? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 19:06 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-14#1896356 -> this finished: the signature still does not verify; trinque let me know if you want to see the result of this run too
trinque: what happens when some uninspected and unconscious part of mod6 wells up from the undermeat and "just wants to" be happy/please wife/stop kid screaming
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 07:45 mircea_popescu: trinque let me know how close i got.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-14#1896360 << far better than I could've said it, but yes. your "from cause" is foundational for sanity, let alone republic. I gather some have taken "sanity" as a term of art there, not the literal meaning. ☝︎
asciilifeform: re ^ -- the steel shell is a bitch, will need tuning for kv. but for demo purposes, the FG analogue board photo ~did~ come out pretty well, will scan it when it dries.
asciilifeform: nobody seems to publish the test data on subj tho, aside from 'golden toilet' ic houses
asciilifeform: will also be interesting at some pt to roast a ~working~ ssd; in theory soft xray eats ssd
asciilifeform will post a scan once he gets a decent exposure, this may not be today, aint a priority item
asciilifeform: 1st photo subj is those dead samsung ssd stix BingoBoingo sent in.
asciilifeform: in entirely other noose, the xray worx...
asciilifeform indeed expected that it's 100% gcc5ism
asciilifeform: that's half the appeal, all of my recipe for it still worx.
asciilifeform: afaik they haven't changed the chipset.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-rose-tattoo/ << Trilema -- The Rose Tattoo
BingoBoingo: Has only gotten faster since I first put it on the desk in 2010 or 2011
asciilifeform: ( it may be possible to pack'em tighter, but currently imho reliability trumps max utilization of cubic metrage )
BingoBoingo: But Bobcat like the apu1 has is sitting on my desk
a111: Logged on 2019-02-18 23:15 BingoBoingo: 6 or 8 to the 1U chasis?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-18#1897935 << to allow for power and sufficient thermal , 4 per 1u. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( not unless somebody pays to colo one, at any rate )
asciilifeform: it remains a serious wtf to me : think, bolix had ecc.
BingoBoingo: APU can also be kitted to Gutenburg mirror with appropriate drives and ECC RAM
asciilifeform: ( btw there was to be a demo unit of same in the 1st crate, but did not fit masswise )
mircea_popescu: basically there's not much room for middle here. either rk or else monster -- even things such as shared hosting are better off on large x86 server than a bunch of mid ones
asciilifeform: i also have an old and well-oiled toolchain for it, where can e.g. throw customer payload directly into rom, if desired
asciilifeform: i.e. i won't be holding up the expedition for its fix.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd still like to see the arm64 wtf resolved
asciilifeform: the apu loses on physical space ( it takes the sq. metrage of 6 rk , just by itself ) and cost ( +30% over rk ) aand naturally x86itude.
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem like the end of the world to "can't thread properly" on a 4 core box.
mircea_popescu: well, doesn't seem like the end of the world, then, to say "this is the rk, has so and so list of advantages as before discussed (truly independend box, etc) and the one drawback meanwhile discovered that you can't really do tmsr-like threading in ada on it, which may be fixed later"
asciilifeform: ( this is somewhat of a black art, it is probably possible to come up with a benchmark where the rk wins )
mircea_popescu: how many cores in the rk cpu ?
asciilifeform: so asciilifeform leans to installing a qty of x64 boxen of roughly same cost profile as rk ( but with added bonus that they eat sata drives ) : apu1. these also have bonus of published electrical schematic and custom asciilifeform bios from src.
asciilifeform: what we have this wk, is a 'sjlj-gnat dun go on arm64'. i dun expect this is a permanent disease, but i do expect it'll take time to fix, esp. if asciilifeform has to do with own 2hands. until then, rk cluster is stuck with the obsolete compiler ( which runs e.g. 'lamp stack' and even zcx-gnat , but obv. won't run the emerging standard sjljistic one until fix. )
mircea_popescu: possibly at the time of trump's washington dinner "humiliation". by whom, by this crop of the barn-born ?
mircea_popescu: i was looking for that pic a whole ago, you know. "where's the one with the bunch of them huddled together like so manby peasantsa"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, will take a look shortly, 1st would like to macroexpand mircea_popescu's point
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/02/gnat-zero-cost-exceptions-and-asynchronous-task-aborting-part-3/ << bvt's backtrace -- GNAT Zero Cost Exceptions and Asynchronous Task Aborting. Part 3.
BingoBoingo: 6 or 8 to the 1U chasis? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What sort apu1d4 offers what sort of density to the Rack Unit not that we are revisiting x64
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/wild-is-the-wind/ << Trilema -- Wild is the Wind
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your problem's open tho, what the heck are you gonna do, put up more arms we can't compile for ? put up something else ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to make use of mircea_popescu's suggested, in log, leads for the hunt, but do not limit to it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is also my understanding that the new rk is presently idle. if this is still so, i'ma commandeer it for propaganda ops. lemme know.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 15:32 asciilifeform: it is also time to speak of the next crate. and the customary four cargo slots. 1 is to contain a replacement for uy1 ( and ideally will run cuntoo . ) 1 will contain a 1u that holds rk's. this gives 2 1u slots remaining, they can be occupied by colo passengers, if these stand up and wish to ride , or pizarro irons, at BingoBoingo's option.
asciilifeform: and on what existing userbase says ( asciilifeform still ! waiting ! for any passengers ! to stand up, re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887214 . if none by end of this wk, i will assume there are none ! ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: in part the exact mix will depend on what BingoBoingo yields in terms of userbase prelim. hunt
asciilifeform: re rk -- not errybody is running ada proggy, and errything else appears to work quite well there.
asciilifeform: re capacity : also needs discussion. currently considering rk array (1u), two x64 boxen of dulap type, and additionally a set of apu1d4 (see logs, or https://archive.is/8JBbH ) .
asciilifeform: and would rather not have to do whole thing from scratch
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, would really like to see motion on this front asap
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll have a list of targets tonight
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo mircea_popescu has point : are you gonna produce a list of spammees, or just what is it you have hands full with, and asciilifeform has to dredge the net with own hands and halt all other work ?
mircea_popescu: and i somehow still don't see the only item of any import in there, which kinda makes the whole list derisory.
mircea_popescu: incidentally re http://pizarroisp.net/2019/02/17/pizarro-isp-february-17th-update/#selection-45.0-45.26 -- you can't practically wait with this whole thing until either aarm64 is fixed or the aliens invade. what are you gonna do for capacity ?