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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425729 << yes. ☝︎
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425729 <<< did you actually do this when broadcasting A1...4 ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1401640 << sometime there ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425015 << you think so. but in reality, you're not actually part of the relay network. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425011 << they should have been. except if the "non overlapping" sets of miners DO in fact overlap, in the sense of being merely meaningless facades of the same one thing, in which case they wouldn't necessarily know that they can be trivially fingerprinted by the symptom of "hey, apparently they know about a txn they shouldn't know about". ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1425662 << this very readily suggests to me a malleus-II ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> BingoBoingo how do / can i submit a qntra piece? << sign/encrypt a document and pass it to me somehow
nubbins`: [18:26:01] <+nubbins`>pete_dushenski no hard feelings, i swear!
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>because those who stopped, stopped so that they could scam consumers. << two wrongs make not a right
pete_dushenski: http://dpaste.com/0FCJN2C << v. interesting, dooglus
danielpbarron: nubbins`> BingoBoingo what's next?! signed & ready to go << link the signed encrypted thing as a text file (on dpaste or your own site) in a later tell to Bingo
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424706 << this got lost in the noise and i would like to come back to it. ☝︎
nubbins`: accounting mistakes wrt bitbet divs almost every month? << iirc there was an s.mg that had an error around my stock warrant too
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, you ~are~ an asset <3
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nubbins` carefully inspects his chair every day before he sits down in it ? << This is inspiring a yard project. I have a tall yet narrow tree to take down. Will make a tree stake before gone forever!
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.0 << aka the death knell of bitbet
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>with whatever was in reach. << madoff was putting out fires with whatever was in reach, too
asciilifeform: nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-03-2016#1424847 << suggests that it was not 'behind back' but the normal operation of bbet ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 16:31:53; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424891 < this is not so. it was not bitbet experience (for example i was not even aware of any of it) and publishing your interpretation on qntra does not assert absolute truth, it just tells everyone who reads it what you think.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424835 << is important point. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning << as per.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-03-2016#1423312 << see also. ☝︎
asciilifeform: [02:07:54] [mircea_popescu] ALL these ~happened~ to somehow drop out of mempools ? << from the document << later we learn that prb DROPS what it deems 'doublespend' SOLELY based on chronology.
PeterL: nubbins`> go to qntra article and see how long it takes for someone to even MENTION the obvious cheapo explanation << if you look at the timestamps, it was just a couple hours before we started complaining, which was pretty much as soon as I got around to reading the article in question
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424487 << ORPHAN! ☝︎
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> by this measure, there's a large overlap between all sorts of things. maybe there is, sure. << it only takes one, and I bet and have a node, therefore it might have been me too
dooglus: maybe that node was connected when you broadcast the first time, turned off, and reconnected 8 days later << or maybe one of the winners of the bet saw he had been paid and rebroadcast A1 so he could get paid again; that seems like the most obvious motivation for rebroadcasting A1
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424891 < this is not so. it was not bitbet experience (for example i was not even aware of any of it) and publishing your interpretation on qntra does not assert absolute truth, it just tells everyone who reads it what you think. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424731 << how this will be settled ? pistols at dawn ? gladiators ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424728 << if we plug the 1) blockindex crap (see logz) and 2) idiot tx-sticks-around-forever leaks - pogos sing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424721 << this is not actually correct, it should build only gcc and toolchain, then trb. ☝︎
nubbins`: <+hanbot>you fucked that up, what, you figure more spewing is the answer? << you don't seem to get that me spelling the entire thing out again in long form is zero on my list of priorities, but i appreciate you switch-hitting for mp because it'd really look silly if he responded himself
danielpbarron: nubbins`> again, i could create 10k tx's right now with older inputs than A1 << isn't this a "glass canon" as in, can only be fired once? How many nubbins` are out there with cannons? It costs money to assemble this weapon in short order. You have it from years of doing business.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> i have nfi, btw, what the age was. did you look into it? << http://qntra.net/2016/03/a-miner-problem/#comment-47581
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>punkman: he has, iirc, a thing that tries to connect to 'anyone who's anyone' as determined by his intel << seems his intel connected him to a shit set of nodes
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424380 << against better judgment, i figured i'd go back and re-read sturles' conversation just in case i'd missed something ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> all will be discarded because A1 is waiting for the cheap seats << except the part where these nodes would also advertise it, which they didn't do. and except for the part where nodes that keep txn forever are am yth. and except for anything actually to do with reality, as opposed to some cartoon someone saw last year on tedspeak or w/e.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> http://qntra.net/2016/03/a-miner-problem/#comment-47702 << FTR i thought this was obv the case << because it's neither obvious nor the case.
jurov: <ad break>You could have got x.eur from me with only 2% fee over vwap and flipped them at these insane prices!</ad>
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> does this come with an absolute guarantee that i am not responsible for anything past raw tx, and if it never gets included, bettor is out the money, because i will not under any circumstances repay it ? << lel better not stick with 0-fee tx if you're gonna go that route.
nubbins`: http://qntra.net/2016/03/a-miner-problem/#comment-47702 << FTR i thought this was obv the case upon reading the article and was baffled as to why it took so long for someone to mention.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 00:45:43; mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/jurov-slime.png < jurov asciilifeform phf and other lisp aficionados.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424263 << looks neato ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/jurov-slime.png < jurov asciilifeform phf and other lisp aficionados. ☟︎
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424233 << costs all of 100 usd. << indeed ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#comment-116719 << sig(digest, pkey). this does nothing for the transacting protocol, but ensures that the device that mined a block /also/ has the privkey for the block subsidy.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423761 << nubbins` will be pleased to learn that this is pet's favourite 'ever' thing from the logz. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424233 << costs all of 100 usd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424225 << ty nubbins` , will do when i get home ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423705 << not all can bee-dog like the pros! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424138 << yeah but learn a good programming. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424127 << this would be correct. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424125 << bee-dog was originally a joke re very summary vision (because bees see large pixels and dogs don't see colors). see : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-02-2016#1413916 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424171 << lol what could we do that we can't do here..? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424125 << iirc that would be... asciilifeform ☝︎
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2015#1031708 << this? ☝︎
mod6: <+shinohai> prb v0.12.0 crashes my computer every time I start it up :/ (QT version anyway) << i lel'd.
punkman: http://qntra.net/2016/03/correction-takes-bitcoin-network-difficulty-down-3-1/ << "total network hashrate estimates around 1.2 TH/s" only two orders of magnitude off
gribble: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> purely for exploratory reasons - how far are you willing to take the gossipd ? << how about quantum money ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/ << well there was this, and then ATC failed around that time
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:56:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423491 << hashing whole block significantly weakens the protocol against attacks from non-bitcoin actors however. think your conn rst sufferences on a large scale.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423721 << can hear more about this plox ?? ☝︎
asciilifeform: >> http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/basini-unique.jpg << here we go
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423732 << does nubbins` know how taxation works in usaschwitz ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423702 << i'm not interested in becoming an even poorer and lower peon in a shittier country. it's living-off-capital or death plox. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:48:35; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-january-february-2016-joint-statement/#comment-116714 << was this discussed ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423707 << definitely discussed. there is deliberately no simple way of refirmwaring the thing. ☝︎
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu>http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423517 << if you actually want them you prolly can have them for the cost of sheeping. <<< he's right ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423536 << obvious or not, not really the case. last i did something like this was when i said "100 is good enough" and people insisted on running up to 1k. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423517 << if you actually want them you prolly can have them for the cost of sheeping. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 10:43:36; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423477 << the way to kill pools is to hash he WHOLE BLOCK, rather than header. but as mircea_popescu pointed out, it is not merely ~pools~ that are colluding, but actual ~miners~, so it solves nothing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423491 << hashing whole block significantly weakens the protocol against attacks from non-bitcoin actors however. think your conn rst sufferences on a large scale. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423469 << this is a while out yet. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/no-such-labs-snsa-january-february-2016-joint-statement/#comment-116714 << was this discussed ? ☟︎
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: BTC just failed, now what? << It seems business as usual tho...or is #b-a closing shop?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:18:04; mircea_popescu: 18<nubbins`> buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd. << he got the exact answer, but wouldn't take it, because reasons.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423610 << why would i care what ~seller~ does with it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 18<nubbins`> buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd. << he got the exact answer, but wouldn't take it, because reasons. ☟︎
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423412 << just so i can suggest appropriately, this is money you don't need/want for practical use? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423537 << you forgot mpex subscriptions ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 08:49:19; ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/trilema_comment.txt << in case anyone is waiting on mp
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423477 << the way to kill pools is to hash he WHOLE BLOCK, rather than header. but as mircea_popescu pointed out, it is not merely ~pools~ that are colluding, but actual ~miners~, so it solves nothing. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423470 << trivially: an addr is valid if a coinbase some time fed it, and not otherwise. (in this hypothetical alt) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-capacity-nightmare-fees-reality/ << annals of "don't mention qntra whatever you do"
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/trilema_comment.txt << in case anyone is waiting on mp ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#comment-116712 << asciilifeform, mod6, jurov, PeterL, mircea_popescu, kakobrekla (in moderation, hopefully passes the bowels of mircea_popescu's wprexen soon)
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/03/leaked-voicemails-show-donald-trump-clinton-cozy-with-liberal-media/#comment-47903 << Much insult to MP
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#comment-116709 << lose a kingdom, gain another, or how did that go.
mircea_popescu: "the word "collectible" is attached the coins" << samne problem. good idea but the writing...
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1423367 << aha! in brin's ver, it was a traveller, who didnt like the food, and before packing up, spitefully shouts 'hey guyz! some of you have horns!' ☝︎
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1423335 << it begins? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://megalyrics.ru/lyric/vladimir-vysotskii/zk-vasiliev-i-zk-pietrov.htm << oblig re zeks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (because there is no satisfactory way of bootstrapping any alt.) << in principle a ~WELL DESIGNED~ alt with a ~WELL CHOSEN~ pow would work quite well.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1423034 << that only worked because, in phorkwar, one could sell phork-btc and buy btc, forming an arse-mouth loop. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422950 << so am i thick, or what did nsa even want if not for mircea_popescu to go long on fiat? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422905 << actually i'd go to that one. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422900 << let's not flatter ourselves. the odds of mp showing up to "add a voice" to $randomitem are ~nil. ☝︎