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lobbes: asciilifeform: did it? I patched it to sit on top of the "line_wraps" patch
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933678 << was it this one you were thinking of ?
asciilifeform: in the early days, iirc mircea_popescu scoffed that 'spending fat dough to fly steel sheets' but they're in fact the magick ingredient that gets the internals through orc customs .
asciilifeform: was gabriel_laddel the last 1 of these alive ?
asciilifeform: trinque: per mircea_popescu's spec, it aint a bug. ( and to switch it off, imho The Right Thing is simply to look against list of bots )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 04:32:57 mircea_popescu: spyked, trinque 's avatar
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did anyone ever find out where esthlos went ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: not anytime soon
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes also last post 1+y ago
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 10:26:15 mircea_popescu: actually, let's see the list of feeds you got, prolly time for a review
asciilifeform: and incidentally diana_coman is the all-time champ for 'read & eat asciilifeform's worx' atm !
asciilifeform: diana_coman: thank you for reading, signing, baking mirror, writing cookbook; a+++
asciilifeform: diana_coman: logotron page updated with your seals and link to your recipe !
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:47 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933586 << in any case disintegration is probably the road towards manageability of software
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:40:36 mircea_popescu: if calling an url is compilation htaccess does the preprocessing
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:36:32 mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:36:07 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 << fwis most people do this, 5 to 15 years in.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:02 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933588 << this might work
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 04:33:18 mircea_popescu: i'm like 99% sure i published this, what the fuck, did some trilema articles vanish ?!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933621 << it isn't impossible, iirc mircea_popescu had a sql oops coupla yrs ago (but i thought was fully restored?)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 05:52:04 mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 13:08:20 diana_coman: aww, feedbot can't seem to keep up with the pace of trilema comments, lol
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 20:36:55 asciilifeform: in principle could then have a mircea_popescu-style php reader, and e.g ada bot .
mircea_popescu: and in ongoing regexp lulz : "i am sure it was an image ~in a footnote~" "oh, ok then, WHERE `post_content` LIKE '%((%.jpg%%))%'" "mno, that only looks for pics after a footnote opener and before a footnote closer, not necessarily of the same footnote. it'll include all pics in an article with at least two footnotes, pretty much." "fuck"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 20:28:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's depressing thread makes me want to rewrite the bot nao tho. ( taking suggestions re in-what... )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 15:14:35 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933406 << this can't fucking be, they all must dump sql ffs, wtf.
a111: Logged on 2019-09-03 17:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laff, but iirc there's folx who live 100% in emacs. ( trinque iirc )
asciilifeform: in principle could then have a mircea_popescu-style php reader, and e.g ada bot .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's depressing thread makes me want to rewrite the bot nao tho. ( taking suggestions re in-what... )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> bung ? lol << You know, like a barrel of fun
asciilifeform: ^ hm mircea_popescu , do you think bots oughta ignore outputs of bots ? ( i deliberately did not, as specifically requested in mircea_popescu's spec ; but it would be a trivial change )
ossabot: Logged on 2016-09-30 10:25:26 diana_coman: it sounds like we should mirror them ; probably/possibly a bunch of packages for each distro at the end of the day, sigh
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 16:44:37 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re the repo von minigame approach I searched a bit more and the starting point I think is possibly http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/eulora/2016-09-30#922530 but sadly the concrete madness seems to have never made it fully into public view
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 16:42:07 diana_coman: in other unrelated stuff: I keep getting emails from Romanians that use those bac data sets but a. it's only and exclusively when they *need* something more/else and b. they somehow never seem to notice that they could also offer what other data sets they have to add there; GRRR
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the age commanded that we sing, but then cut off our tongues... the age commanded that we flow, but hammered in the bung!'(tm)(r)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's an idea though in fairness I can't say I'd *want* them; so far I just kept pointing out precisely that a. learn to write also when you use something, not only when you need something b. send me those other data sets and then who knows
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, anyway, i suppose the thing to do is point out to the dorks in question that really there's no need nor any space for their self aferations, drop the shit and go younghands instead.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, nice how that works, huh.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-09-30 10:25:26 diana_coman: it sounds like we should mirror them ; probably/possibly a bunch of packages for each distro at the end of the day, sigh
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re the repo von minigame approach I searched a bit more and the starting point I think is possibly http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/eulora/2016-09-30#922530 but sadly the concrete madness seems to have never made it fully into public view
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 15:00:52 mircea_popescu: incidentally re http://trilema.com/2019/so-i-was-thinking/#comment-131257 diana_coman , where's the article detailing the time we attempted to amber linux over it breaking eulora compile process ? is there one even ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually linux's fs is quite poor match for www case (think -- or else 'htaccess' kludge would not seem necessary)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and asciilifeform together, when attempted the collective php blog system on same
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: well imho (and in disagreement with mircea_popescu) blogging includes search box. which is why my wp runs on pg.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in fact (and apropos of your 'but it Will!! break if planets unalign' comment, incidentally) it shits forth not only iso sql , but proprietary oddities
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc was only in the #t log
mircea_popescu: incidentally re http://trilema.com/2019/so-i-was-thinking/#comment-131257 diana_coman , where's the article detailing the time we attempted to amber linux over it breaking eulora compile process ? is there one even ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 10:00:29 diana_coman: PeterL: well, you'd be better off doing and learning rather than popping up every now and again with suggestions only so that then people also have to explain stuff to you for no clear result otherwise.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i used it all the way to the last day when the university shut down their unix cluster and expelled all 'zombies' who were still connected. which -- ~decade after graduating -- still included asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laff, but iirc there's folx who live 100% in emacs. ( trinque iirc ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recall you had another similar , sumthing like 'da-mi mama dupa Iura'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i see it nao, but i eat slowly, lol
asciilifeform will try an' work through mircea_popescu's sicilian proverbs
asciilifeform: i'ma stfu and give mircea_popescu the needed air atm
asciilifeform: btw diana_coman actually #20 contains mistake, in temp mirrors 1st set up 'nginx' as in older system, then 'apache' to compare whether made diff in re performance (it did not) . ( putting this here, rather than to spam mp's www with 9000 errata comments.. )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect he has >1 point, but that this indeed was 1 of'em. but i expect he'll clarify, i'ma refrain from guessing.
asciilifeform waves to diana_coman
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 18:22:51 asciilifeform: diana_coman: appears to work. we're gonna want an algo , tho, that doesn't resolve to 'throw out my db if outta sync and eat the other's' imho .
asciilifeform: i agree w/ diana_coman tho -- try it yerself
asciilifeform: PeterL: ben_vulpes & trinque's orig bot actually worked this way. from the added complexity of multithread, had other problems entirely.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 05:54:11 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in http://trilema.com/2019/so-i-was-thinking/#comment-131245 news, the list of random innocents dragged in by nomination extends to also trinque diana_coman leaving aside the explicitly unnamed.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 06:10:51 mircea_popescu: (inb4 "but mp, obvious solution is emacs")
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 06:09:49 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933332 << why should text mode be troublematic ? i would not even mind an irc client that works ~like screen, have a main window for each channel and then ctrl-a number to toggle etc.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 06:06:43 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-02#1933331 << o holy shit, you got those ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in anthropologically interesting documentary phootage, superaccurate depiction of pre-porn eeuropean teenager sexual activity.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 20:09:12 mircea_popescu: nfi that anyone's getting into fixing extant clients, and no intention to make anyone write a new irc client, so...
spyked: mircea_popescu, woah, huge response. it's gonna take me a while to process, currently stuck in saecular swamps. but I promise to get to it the first thing once I free my attention
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in http://trilema.com/2019/so-i-was-thinking/#comment-131245 news, the list of random innocents dragged in by nomination extends to also trinque diana_coman leaving aside the explicitly unnamed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 20:09:12 mircea_popescu: nfi that anyone's getting into fixing extant clients, and no intention to make anyone write a new irc client, so...
asciilifeform: trinque: sorta why asciilifeform regularly returns to mircea_popescu's (unwritten, but 'between the lines') dictum where 'the only people who have any biznis writing progs, is folx who never program'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or was it "rough consensus" << Sulphide rich consensus
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 19:53:40 mircea_popescu: nfi that anyone's getting into fixing extant clients, and no intention to make anyone write a new irc client, so...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sovok had even odder thing -- taxis on propane
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like a client that warns when about to frag line ( but can't be currently aroused to try an' patch 'xchat', 'irssi', other horrors )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: initially i wrote perlisms to generate'em, then thought 'wtf' and rewrote in peh proper
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 15:17:45 mircea_popescu: there's cockroaches roaming free EVERYWHERE in town, the "skyscrapers", the business district, all residential areas,
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 15:16:59 mircea_popescu: dude, buenos aires is literal waste dump level, 100 debris bits per square meter rustling softly in the wind each night.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 16:00:20 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-02#1933149 << the one thing that logger could readily improve on, is fixing these split-line issues. can it look ahead in next line if current line has a broklen [][] structure ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 15:54:34 mircea_popescu: i expect going forward tests will be 10x to 100x the vpatch bulk
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 16:35:33 diana_coman: asciilifeform: my sigs for logotron code ^
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-02#1933213 << ty diana_coman ! i'ma put'em on my www tomorrow
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm, I don't seem to have gotten that pingback though?
mircea_popescu: lol check it out diana_coman , we pinged each other at the ~same exact time
billymg: ah ty diana_coman
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: So get ready for the punchline. The ground is NOT in their pictures!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nor is it clean, in any sense. it's so fulla garbage as only india can compare. << Uruguay looks filthier than it ought to because the "Banco Provision Social" levies taxes on contructions and building work. Counted among these taxed works is... PAINTING
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 04:39:29 spyked: ohey, just noticed ossabot standing in #spyked, ty diana_coman!
spyked: ohey, just noticed ossabot standing in #spyked, ty diana_coman!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 18:18:11 diana_coman: ofc the above has also as side effect that bots are now in sync re line numbers
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 18:33:42 diana_coman: ofc the above has also as side effect that bots are now in sync re line numbers
asciilifeform: diana_coman: appears to work. we're gonna want an algo , tho, that doesn't resolve to 'throw out my db if outta sync and eat the other's' imho .
asciilifeform: re 'why the fuck bot doesn't see own output' -- mircea_popescu had a piece re the idjicy of 'nat' , where same, q of 'what is my ip' becomes suddenly irresolvable w/out external help. i suspect in both cases 'sleep of reason breeds monsters', no one even considered to fucking think.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm trying to draw an exact map of this 'cthulhu beast' .
asciilifeform: ( and hm, loox like diana_coman's unplugged for maintenance atm )
asciilifeform: only if you actually want backlinkage resembling phf's ( iirc mircea_popescu put it in spec, and even griped that it aint in yet , not long ago )
a111: Logged on 2015-03-06 03:29 mircea_popescu: if you are one of the people buying belgian rubber concessions on the stock exchanges, you make money. if you're in africa, you make quick with the hands and feet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how wouldja have backlinks ( as phf had ) work ?