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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i missed the 'don't talk to folks mircea_popescu killfiled' rule in the handbook ?
nubbins`: no, i don't think you do
nubbins`: asciilifeform iirc i offered you some a while back but we decided you wouldn't take it
nubbins`: alf is in a weird spot where he obviously feels that mp is hallucinating but doesn't want to press the issue
nubbins`: ^ you didn't put it in a TPS report, in other words
nubbins`: mats shouldn't you be telling alf to stfu?
mircea_popescu: there isn't available this "exit by reservation". it's a personal pretense, nothing more.
nubbins`: you don't like it, put me on ignore
mats: it isn't the allegation, it is the 1000x repetition that i'm looking at
mats: you didn't walk into anything, the noise in here is your doing
nubbins`: asciilifeform don't mistake verbosity for excitement
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 23:50:19; mircea_popescu: looky, that nonsense isn't going to snivel into factuality just because butthurt. chinese miner conspiracy is a fact, undisputed and accepted as such.
mircea_popescu: looky : part of your trying to cope with hanbot's deriding your peculiar notion of responsibility was to come hide under my skirts. i said plox don't come hide under my skirts. that's all.
mircea_popescu: but "i dunno, wasn't there, don't believe" does not actually enact anything. it's just the typical position of the scholar withdrawing from the world.
mircea_popescu: now then. that you or anyone else "dunno, wasn't there, whatever", it's one thing.
mircea_popescu: looky, that nonsense isn't going to snivel into factuality just because butthurt. chinese miner conspiracy is a fact, undisputed and accepted as such. ☟︎
nubbins`: altho i guess it's mostly a show for folks that don't go back and read the logs
nubbins`: so, no, he didn't turn a situation from that into anything.
mircea_popescu: let it be stated that i don't wish asciilifeform to be doing any interpreting of what i've said after i'm dead.
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu just explain that the customers are the mold in the cheese and don't really matter ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whaddayamean you don't have 5 identical replacements for every part!111
mircea_popescu: and replacement is fucking up the monitor. apparently, can't have previous mode because it puts it out of bounds
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: unfortunately i haven't found a way to truncate this log
mircea_popescu: eh, the whole internet consists of people who think they can do things better than anyone ; and then can't do jack shit to save their lives.
asciilifeform: i wouldn't dream of using it for a project tho
mircea_popescu: da fuck is the point of an ide that doesn't support things.
mircea_popescu: (it wasn't good enough anyway - it was, don't you know, ~corrupt~!!!!. see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-03-2016#1435480 for what "corruption" means and how that narrative plays.) ☝︎
phf: as manifest in every "my first crypto", this is so convoluted i can't grok it, surely nobody else can
mircea_popescu: then i get incensed when derps start with the "~~~~~I~~~~~ don't see how..."
assbot: complexity theory - Why hasn't there been an encryption algorithm that is based on the known NP-Hard problems? - Computer Science Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1nZDTcK )
mircea_popescu: just like not recognizing the institution of marriage doesn't mean you never marry. it means that you randomly and entirely unreliably marry.
mircea_popescu: no, it wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: if you think that you can in any manner or for any purpose distinguish any bitcoin from any bitcoin we can't be friends.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:25:22; phf: i don't remember homebrew pulling guile, so it's something gentoo specific. and putting -guile into useflags don't do notin
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436653 << you gotta ~mask~ and flag. what this does is to guarantee that the thing won't be pulled, but at the same time allow other things that might be severable from the dependency to still build. ☝︎
phf: i don't remember homebrew pulling guile, so it's something gentoo specific. and putting -guile into useflags don't do notin ☟︎
asciilifeform: can't simply resolder
asciilifeform: i don't EVER want capslock to not be ctrl.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:04:05; phf: also anyone tried doing a kernel level key rebind before? is that just in config or you need to patch source. i want to switch some keys around, but i don't want to have to do it for every single userland environment
phf: also anyone tried doing a kernel level key rebind before? is that just in config or you need to patch source. i want to switch some keys around, but i don't want to have to do it for every single userland environment ☟︎
danielpbarron: it'd using it now, you hadn't made that formal list at the time i did it
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 06:27:49; phf: i've managed a reiserfs/lilo combo, though genkernel claims that it doesn't work with reiserfs. uclibc vanilla failed on chroot step, ifconfig and all the other networking bits refused to work. perhaps i needed to grab a uclibc iso? in any case i proceeded witha glibc install for now
koinplug: but multiples of 40 or 50 btc can't add up to 60 btc?
phf: i've managed a reiserfs/lilo combo, though genkernel claims that it doesn't work with reiserfs. uclibc vanilla failed on chroot step, ifconfig and all the other networking bits refused to work. perhaps i needed to grab a uclibc iso? in any case i proceeded witha glibc install for now ☟︎
mod6: And beyond that, as you were saying, it didn't get oomkill'd, just kept right along going. i think you're right, we should throw a fatal exception in the event of oom.
mod6: asciilifeform: about that error I saw, thanks for your insight. I looked the other system logs to see if that was the issue, but didn't see the OOMKILL like I have before. So I was thinking it wasn't related to that somehow. Anyway, good to know.
mod6: hanbot: hmm, ok that makes some sense as far as the philosophical components. i wonder if simply an index with pointers to indexed topic wouldn't just be something worthwhile. i.e. "Discussion around MP's change requirements and keccak hash family => [LOG_URL_1] [LOG_URL_N] [...]"
mircea_popescu: "maybe it didn't really need it"
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 20:52:51; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on' << maybe it didn't really need it ?
mircea_popescu: there's perfect reason for OS to allow it if code does. "couldn't load that picture - sorry", for instance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on' << maybe it didn't really need it ? ☟︎
thestringpuller: i honestly don't know if I can run as true full node
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: said real nodes aren't hosted..........
thestringpuller: fuck. i guess I'll just add watchdog and if logs don't have `ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED` in the last 60 minutes `kill -9 <pid>; ./startrb.sh`
asciilifeform: 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436500 << shortening doesn't work. not if the material is any good to begin with, and author 'left out the parts people skip' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436490 << you won't see this unless oom ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 17:19:23; mod6: Does anyone else see these error messages running the latest trb (minus shiva)? Looks to be in main.cpp:ProcessMessage around lines 1855:1913. It doesn't look to me to be related to the malleus patch, but I could be wrong there. Thoughts? Seen the same in your logs? Plz let us know. http://dpaste.com/21PJMY4.txt
assbot: I can't beleaf it, all for me! - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1nXI7By )
mod6: fwiw, my node doesn't die, just keeps on running in the event of this exception.
mod6: Does anyone else see these error messages running the latest trb (minus shiva)? Looks to be in main.cpp:ProcessMessage around lines 1855:1913. It doesn't look to me to be related to the malleus patch, but I could be wrong there. Thoughts? Seen the same in your logs? Plz let us know. http://dpaste.com/21PJMY4.txt ☟︎
phf: apropos, one thing that i couldn't quite grok moving to u.s., how the children of odessa expats (read isaac babel for example about jewish gangsters of odessa) turned into sniveling woody allen clones
mircea_popescu: "we didn't end him - just decapitated".
phf: i'm waiting for western ashkenazim to start embracing persecution as a status symbol, kind of like how affirmative action devalued blacks in workforce, this is the opposite. was a bit of a thing in su, in some professions (anything related to mil for example) if you were known to be of jewish descent (you wouldn't be on paper, but "people talk") it was also kind of assumed that you were whicked smart to get in
mircea_popescu: perhaps i don't do enough renaissance faires / biker conventions / camping / whatever
asciilifeform: because it isn't here
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You gotta remember at one point I was able to appreciate the sports stuff that didn't suck for a while. Now I just drink tears as it tears itself appart.
mircea_popescu: #This thing is made by drepper, and while it doesn't per se suck, it very likely lies.
mircea_popescu: #This thing is made by me and it sucks but doesn't lie.
mircea_popescu: it is isn't it.
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 19:59:21; asciilifeform: my internal mp also says 'just because you have a pistol which knows how to fire bullets at people you don't like, it does not follow that there must also exist an antipistol which sucks out bullets from people you like'
mircea_popescu: it won't make specific forms of derpage tolerable going forward, also, but there was no provision to protect that stuff anyway.
asciilifeform: my internal mp also says 'just because you have a pistol which knows how to fire bullets at people you don't like, it does not follow that there must also exist an antipistol which sucks out bullets from people you like' ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yes, internal-mp says 'stop trying to finesse the basic use case of the forum, don't take the rifle fishing'
mircea_popescu: don't tell me it upregulates to 3a i might fall over.
mircea_popescu: you don't HAVE to be tho.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> PeterL: he suggested (i still can't tell if seriously!) to plug them in ~series~ << no dude. he said "see if your isp is willing to give you a c block / upgrade your connection. buy a coupla bridges of 32 or 64, make a high voltage rectifier thingee, and power a bunch of boxes" then you went all crazy about how series omaygerd! and i spent the rest of the interval poking fun at it. this is an exact para
mircea_popescu: PeterL> maybe it is just my lack of electrical engineering knowledge, but it sounds like mircea_popescu and asciilifeform are saying to do the same thing, but won't agree with each other? << you have nfi how often this happens.
BingoBoingo: <jurov> was a while to get used to it. i wonder how was BingoBoingo keeping track of his nickname when it was different every time << nicknames attach to bars. If bar isn't frequented enough "hey you" workz
asciilifeform: jurov: i can't really picture him wiring up drives with his own hands, tho
asciilifeform: PeterL: he suggested (i still can't tell if seriously!) to plug them in ~series~, like christmas lights, to a high voltage line.
PeterL: maybe it is just my lack of electrical engineering knowledge, but it sounds like mircea_popescu and asciilifeform are saying to do the same thing, but won't agree with each other?
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 14:34:24; mircea_popescu: lol davout while i'm the first friend of humor, or so i like to think, that two weeks tm can't stand there. it can readily be interpreted to mean forever, and that just can't be.
mircea_popescu: i've been trying to follow this with the huts etc but it doesn't coallesce into a something.
mircea_popescu: because this apparently is... can't move TO dc.
mircea_popescu: this is even lulzier than the whole "can't move out of dc" thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seriously, you can't protect a circuit from overvoltage, overcurrent and everything else ?
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 14:46:53; BingoBoingo: I don't mind it being used where necessary, but it is still a slave name
asciilifeform: (and when it doesn't, result has little to do with finding of fact and much to do with game-theoretical game of 'chicken')
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't use aliases even in promiscuity. everyone's "vampyre lord" and "celeste" and what the fuck not, i'm mircea popescu
mircea_popescu: ha. don't you need a moustache to legally wear that name ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know he has a point tho, just because someone stole or didn't stole it, what's that to you ?
BingoBoingo: I don't mind it being used where necessary, but it is still a slave name ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> danielpbarron and what if they can't fit down the chute ? << Plop them on top of a chute and wait for the fold mold to liquefy them
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron and what if they can't fit down the chute ?
mircea_popescu: lol davout while i'm the first friend of humor, or so i like to think, that two weeks tm can't stand there. it can readily be interpreted to mean forever, and that just can't be. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and yes, I don't intend to follow fiat practice in THIS particular respect : that it's always willing to add complexity for the sake of satisfying fee-fees.
mircea_popescu: solrodar i am not entertaining your concepts of "non-urgent", and so i won't be showing anything about them.
solrodar: because you still haven't shown why a non-urgent supplier should take priority over a customer
mircea_popescu: "if you didn't need to pay him as a supplier, fuck him". how's the receiver to justify this "downgrade" ?