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diana_coman: to my mind
that's precisely
the
thing: it's not (or not only)
that "screaming meat" but
the fact
that at
the end of it, it's only a replacement with what is in fact an inferior, not a superior
thing
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Don't forget
the unbutchered labor activists in
the Southern Cone who will consider shuttering a Ford factory "a win for
the people"
☟︎ diana_coman: asciilifeform, you know,
that's
the
thing
that popped at me as soon as I lived for any amount of
time in
the west: ffs
those people do *of
their own will and even paying money for* precisely
the idiocies
that I
thought communism was
to blame for. So in
this sense, Ceausescu "ahead of his
time" , marete realizari etc etc; I still
think
the direction
totally wrong so pushing it further doesn't seem like a great achievement
to me,
that's all.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I
think
there what can be said is
that it could have certainly be pushed even harder.
diana_coman: you know, apparently I was several
times unlucky in
that - among other
things - my hometown was/is an industrial
town; which meant for instance
that blackouts were very usual (because many powerful industrial consumers and
they got priority) while from what I heard in non-industrial
towns
this wasn't really
the case
diana_coman: asciilifeform, dunno; but
take
this re fish since you mentioned your experience in
Timis; I can still remember when one found a rotten fish among
the frozen "fish" with which communism improved one's diet forcibly.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 23:14 asciilifeform: (king hunger is actually just an affiliate duke under king
thermo)
diana_coman: I don't recall; but I'm sure
that at/after
the revolution in Romania
the idea was quite
the same
diana_coman: asciilifeform,
that communism cancelled doesn't solve
the problems is clear, at least for
the very simple reason
that
the problems were
there even before communism, sure, as it can be seen from
the pieces above
that are quite earlier
than
that.
diana_coman: with
the added bonus
that Ibraileanu in 1909 cites from
the same piece of Caragiale (Politica si cultura) with
the comment
that Caragiale was
the most acerbic critic of... "liberalism" (the quotations marks are Ibraileanu's)
that is further explained as "partidul <<ros>>" aka
the red party.
☟︎ diana_coman: si in sfarsit, ca sa citez din profetul care le stia bag seama inca de mult dinainte ca doar nici nu-s noi: "Se cladeste un mare stabiliment artistic, un
teatru, de exemplu. De ce? fiindca un stat modern are, intre alte organe de cultura, si astfel de stabilimente. Ei? cauti artisti - ia-i de unde nu sunt. Iti
trebuie literatura - nu exista. Iti
trebuie public - publicul nu vine la exhibitiile d-tale. Ce-ti mai ramane de facut in aceasta c
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901720 -> maybe; but
this sort of "it's enough
to make
the buildings and name
them as
to what
they are meant
to be, because surely
then
the content will magically appear" doesn't seem much realism
to me, quite on
the contrary.
☝︎ diana_coman: to get people
to eat fish ("no meal without fish" )
diana_coman: ftr funnily enough precisely fish was very much missing from ro diet
to such extent
that yes,
there were slogans "nici o masa fara peste"
☟︎ diana_coman: asciilifeform, so having a fish shop without fish is better because he at least knows now
that he should have a fish or what?
diana_coman: (not
to mention it's easier without, no?) ; circul foamei
☟︎ diana_coman: and
that's valid for
the 1000 bakeries
too; I suppose one can argue
that it's still an achievement
to have bakeries with no bread
than
to have no bakeries and stale bread but I don't buy it; and note
that in
the 80's
the latest brightest idea (in
the same vein, all hail!) was
to further do
this sort of great "improvement",
to wit
the communal "neighbourhood kitchen"
to get rid of such waste as having individual kitchens in every hruscheba
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 16:24 mircea_popescu: diana_coman but ~which people~ ? whole point of industrialization is moving from
the
traditional
to
the modern. is
the idea
that ceausescu is somehow personally responsible for
the fact ?
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 16:23 mircea_popescu: any kind of ro elite was long gone by
the
time ceausescu came in, he gets
to hide behind ye olde "greaua mostenire"
trope.
BingoBoingo: one America.
This
terrorist was
the weather!
BingoBoingo:
https://archive.is/Tfqyw << "Varias calles de la Ciudad Vieja permanecen cortadas y con desvíos luego de que varios vidrios de edificios de la zona estallaran con los vientos que se registraron en las últimas horas." But what did
the wind blow? "En la madrugada de este miércoles un vidrio del décimo piso de la
Torre Ejecutiva" Ah,
the Presidential office
tower got its 10th floor windows blown out. Not by a bomb.
This Angloph
BingoBoingo: "La misma impotencia, o más, sienten las chicas del CB Guadalaviar. Ganaron la liga femenina la
temporada pasada. El otro día perdieron 50-4 contra un rival masculino. Hemos pasado de ser campeonas de liga el año pasado a sentirnos humilladas. Es un chasco de competición,
todo esto desmotiva, porque
todos los partidos acabamos por los suelos con golpes."
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-07 21:49 asciilifeform: 'enantiomeric' patent -- cheapest
trick in
that box
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 17:15 asciilifeform: in other olds, apparently i slept
through
this, but in early 2000s some ru d00d actually built a ~non-grazing~ lens for xray. for pennies, at
that.
mircea_popescu: there can genuinely arise
the situation where people who aren't necessarily
trying
to find
their way
to arby's / olive garden / we are nevertheless sick of polenta and saving
to buy a lobster.
mircea_popescu: dunno argument was "low hanging fruit".
they wanna see what happens at high energy.
the only way
to see is
to make. approximately situation of "when it comes
to cooking, don't have
to order out. alf has
this method of making polenta, works well!" "and if i want lobster ?" "well
then you gotta buy a lobster". getting indignant over how "wanting lobster only serves
to drive an impossible wedge between budget and mariscos mercha
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 17:14 asciilifeform:
the whole field now consists of 'gimme' artists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, do you recall all
the wank re cern cyclotron, "what if it brings about end of world ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: consider
the
traditional antisemitism -- a cluster of lumphocytes around a very real problem, yes, but SUBJECTIVE PROBLEM OF
THE JEWS. not irritating "the organism" as such in any sense, beyond
the very obvious an' deeply human "you folk can't be
this fucking stupid!"
thing ☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, maybe not every, but plenty of contemporraneous ones. (see ? again with
the "is pig female or is female pig" conundrum. captive in history as we are...)
BingoBoingo: Which I merely captured from
the fat people hate movement
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 15:18 mircea_popescu: even MORE ironically, one can quite say
this was
the face of
the opposition. (chick married
that dork, hence
the double name.)
mircea_popescu: it is a constant complaint of
the actual females,
this. and one i always agree with -- when
they bring it. because yes,
there's nothing fundamentally female about
the pig.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 16:25 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i dun have a better algo
to give for how
to reformat a cultural hdd , afaik
that's still
the state of
the art. << Well
there is
the US Socialist Disney block by block reformat algo as well
mircea_popescu: the qualiy of your summaries recommends you
to writing on bimbo.club.
mircea_popescu: "i made chair, for man
to sit in, with my hands as directed by my head, and an endless supply of stirpituri &
tirituri, with my cunt, as directed by
the cock going into it. WOE IS ME!"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-02 16:06 asciilifeform: nao, on other hand, 'cyclical histories' where 'confederacy of dunces' gangs up and dethrones
their betters, and
then whole edifice
turns
to shit, from shit grows sumthing new, etc. --
this i can buy, we're quite evidently in
the
trough of
that sinusoid just nao
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 14:44 mircea_popescu: dude what is with
this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins
mircea_popescu: anyway, back
to suleyman -- it is ~conceivable~, and definitely an excellent premise for an umberto eco-like novel,
that suleyman gave up his harem
to
try and produce a harem generator
that didn't suck.