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mircea_popescu: how much did they make on that deal ?
asciilifeform: terrible place to ~sell~, but perfectly workable to buy...
asciilifeform: i just gave them more than kilo personally not long ago
asciilifeform: i mean, they are more or less the only mass vendor of coinz in usa
mircea_popescu: for the same reason.
asciilifeform: why would they?
assbot: Recapitulatio on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ifv4ta )
mircea_popescu: so speaking of http://trilema.com/2013/recapitulatio/ how long till coinbase is filing for creditor protection ?
phf: for the love of god
asciilifeform: 'for the love of god, montrezor!!!'
phf: the only thing enemy will drink is amontillado
mircea_popescu: im in fucking love with the fucking bash omg/
mircea_popescu: "mircea_popescu: giving inept infantrymen good horses doesn't create an elite cavalry regiment, it just creates a lot of injured horses. giving stupid people smart things doesn't make them smart. it'll just make a lot of broken smart things."
mircea_popescu: a year is one thing, but five's too many.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=417 << incidentally, champagne doesn't live too well in bottle.
mircea_popescu: wehn i linked to it, i linked to an item put there a week or so ago.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 02:51:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after the thread!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1257994 << no, it was not after the thread. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1257968 << ever tried captain comic ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have written on many occasions, that this (the froth) is why the very youngest of the folks worth anything in computerdom are circa early 1980s
mircea_popescu: had i met linux as a boy i'd be pissing with froth on the entire stupid stack.
mircea_popescu: that behaviour is certainly the l;argest contributor of wy i am even vaguely interested in computers at all
asciilifeform: was it the ring signature thing ?
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 02:28:35; gernika: boots up to C:\. Then they just have to type in the name of the game they want to play and hit enter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more in the sense that the blondy teen that is always clenching her jaws shut is vaguely interesting in a way her verbose airheaded cogeners are not
asciilifeform: can mircea_popescu or anyone else remind me, what was supposed to be the upside of being a glass bott^H^H^H^H^H^H^Husing monero ?
asciilifeform: it is 'interesting' in the same sense as denizen of insane asylum who thinks he is a glass bottle is more interesting than the fella who thinks he is ordinary napoleon ?
mircea_popescu: The upshot of this is that you can run a client that is a year old, but pretty much after that 1 year anniversary you'll be dropped off the network (even if there have been no "real" changes in that year)."
mircea_popescu: Anything that is more of a soft fork will kick in immediately (as long as it doesn't drop pre-fork clients off the network). Anything on the p2p layer (ie. hard forkable) will be kept in the wings until the next fork date (as roughly estimated from block height) and then is enabled.
mircea_popescu: sufficient number of miners are running the new code.
mircea_popescu: Every 6 months, either on March 15 + September 15 or on April 15 + October 15, the Monero network will have a hard fork. 30 days before the fork we will have a code freeze + tag + release, and if there are no major changes we'll have an increase in the protocol version (ie. that's at a minimum). A similar fork system to Bitcoin will apply, whereby a rollover to the new code after the trigger block will only occur if a
mircea_popescu: "Basic bottom line: every 6 months there's a hard fork. You get 1 hard fork's grace before you have to update or be left behind.
mircea_popescu: check this out :
assbot: Monero | Academic and Technical » A formal approach towards better hard fork management ... ( http://bit.ly/1KAZNvy )
mircea_popescu: so i've been sort-of idly thinking maybe monero is actually something should be taken seriously. then BingoBoingo dug up https://forum.getmonero.org/4/academic-and-technical/303/a-formal-approach-towards-better-hard-fork-management
gernika: I would have checked then even numbered answers
gernika: I sadly DID NOT KNOW about this program in junior high and highschool.
asciilifeform: (they turned it into a line of calculators that was wildly popular)
phf: like some game enthusiasts trying to get source from electronic arts, good luck
asciilifeform: 'texas' made prolly close to a billion, with it
asciilifeform: (doubt they'd release it)
asciilifeform: so in that sense, no
asciilifeform: gernika: they sold the rights to texas instruments
gernika: Wonder if the Soft Warehouse guys still live, and if they have it.
asciilifeform: reversing 'derive' is this thing that i come back to for a week or two every other year or so.
asciilifeform: it was written in 'mulisp', which is compiled in such a way as to make this theoretically feasible.
asciilifeform: btw i've always thought it would be interesting to get the lisp src of derive (yes) out of the exe
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 01:40:57; asciilifeform: so far, EVERY SINGLE SI FAB ON THE PLANET and ALL THE DESIGN TOOLING (with the exception of chuck moore's...) runs on winblowz
asciilifeform: i encourage folks here to mirror it, somewhere.
asciilifeform: at any rate, the fdd image is here for n00bz as well
mircea_popescu: but it also has very little regard for you know, "the reader has come to expect"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: naturally. in the mental universe various folks inhabit, nothing mircea_popescuine could even begin to contemplate happening.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one of the funniest protests (sexually repressed women generally) bring to my sexual themed writings is "oh, it would never happen like that".
asciilifeform: boots cleanly on actual dos box, tested.
asciilifeform: gernika: it's a straight floppy image with the real thing in it, created strictly with actual msdos running on emulated hardware
gernika: asciilifeform - I haven't tried it. Running it on an old thinkpad. Got msdos 6.2 working in parallels - but parallels is literally a virus.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell fluffypony Is this really the way to seed anything? https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/crypto/oaes_lib.c#L503
mircea_popescu: oh, you're not so very engaged by this reality ? FUCK YOU BITCH LMAO
mircea_popescu: reality beats fiction mostly because fiction has to be things reality does not.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 01:33:36; asciilifeform: on account of how you can't really write an engaging yarn about inhabitants of the real thing, as we have it
asciilifeform: ;;later tell gernika it will boot in 'qemu' too.
mircea_popescu: why ? the eval!
mircea_popescu: so much better than gwbasic
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 01:29:13; asciilifeform: no one is banning linux. instead there is a 'linux foundation' (see log) which will sign 'legit, non-terrorist' kernels for you
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1257900 << specifically, this log http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-08-2015#1254484 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell gernika http://loper-os.org/pub/derive_and_more.img.gz << floppy image containing PROPER msdos, sys utils (for making more of self), himem, edit, qbasic, buncha other stuff, and Derive. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in local news, argentina GDP fell 4.9% today because one of the lengthy queues accidentally merged with its own ending, resulting in 84`755 people spending an average of 8 hours following a very intricate 12 mile pattern through town for no apparent purpose.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 01:20:23; asciilifeform: from sneeze meds that are less meth-worthy to floor cleaners lacking acids
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 01:05:59; *: asciilifeform once heard allegation that virtually all major product names, esp. in usa, are purchased from one particular firm specializing in names...
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 01:00:40; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dulap ~still~ trailing by 35 blx
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1257852 << you're telling me like i'm the one shitting in the broadband lol ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after the thread! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257800 << it's updated, what. most recent this month. ☝︎
phf: how else would you ensure that linus is not mean to anybody?
asciilifeform: whenever you scratch the surface of damn near anything.
asciilifeform: always there is a one of these, lurking inside
asciilifeform: esp. considering the games.
phf: what isn't. at some point freedos was legit in a poc||gtfo kind of way, i.e. "we did it for the lulz", but now it's positioned as the only legitimate way to run dos programs. that you of course purchased from GoG.
asciilifeform: there are some very serious folks who are working on having it be forgotten that a 486 was an entirely usable thing, and in many ways a superior cultural artifact, all things considered, than the computer you and i are sitting in front of today
gernika: it starts - but the screen is filled with garbage
asciilifeform: ^ also good timez.
gernika: Tried derive.exe on freedos too - doesn't work either.
phf spent more time with duke nukem
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gernika: asciilifeform aha. so that's why comander keen doesn't even work.
asciilifeform: rather then 'bower to the beoble'
asciilifeform: yes, it can. but it is rare for anyone to give the megatonne of shit that must be given, for it to actually happen;
asciilifeform: gernika: no argument. my point concerned the traditional argument 'oh but anything can be reverse-engineered perfectly'
gernika: boots up to C:\. Then they just have to type in the name of the game they want to play and hit enter. ☟︎
phf: at some point you had SAIL and Augment basically design by men for men, lisp machines, xerox park as products of that. later you get two bit hacks selling imperfect copies of the glimpsed technology, thats your 80s and 90s. at this point there's already "no grasp", but the control is limited, basically a byproduct of commercialism. now you get the next stage, which is when the bureaucrats are getting involved
phf: yes nobody will be able to build freewindows10
asciilifeform: (freedos folks make a show of refusing to look at it) ☟︎
asciilifeform: and this despite the fact that msdos 6.2 source leaked in late '90s
asciilifeform: to the point that 'freedos' still won't run certain gamez
asciilifeform: or think of even something so humble as msdos. despite the fact that you could fill several bookcases with material like 'norton's guide', 'undocumented dos', etc. the thing was never fully reverse-engineered by anyone
asciilifeform: but more practically, user hasn't had true grasp of his hardware for a very long time. at least since mid-80s.
phf: that's obvious with hindsight, but imaginary in the same sense that лихие 90ые were imaginary, or really any other "interesting times"
asciilifeform: the rug was somewhat imaginary to begin with.
phf: i know that my computing rug is slowly being swept from under me
phf: i don't know how much of this concern is driving cause vs. purposes, i.e. real limitations experiences by you vs. building civilization from first principles anathema millenials style.