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mircea_popescu: i have nfi what you read, but human wasn't bohr's concern either.
mircea_popescu: you not familiar with the scandal where einstein wouldn't take the heisenberg uncertainity ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't how it works. decent gigs, like slutty chicks, aren't "earned", especially not in the linear, old mia farrow view of earning.
asciilifeform: (the most reality-based hypothesis is that ~asciilifeform~ simply isn't 133337 enough to score decent gig)
phf: behavior was obviously buggy, with an equally trivial fix, i.e. fragment < last-t-a-entry-id
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i have learned that: a) there is ~0 demand for the things i know how to do among honest-work folks b) the folks who ~are~ hiring reversers, CAN'T FIND them << "socialism works" in other words.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448857 << he has a point i think ; while the semantic content of links may perhaps be argued in that way phf , seeing how for instance redirects are honored etc ; nevertheless can't simply hijack people's links. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well wanting something you know can't exist is an idle sort of onanism.
mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37 ☟︎
danielpbarron: and since it's not all-year-round, and since no week is even the same really, i don't really get sick of working
asciilifeform: more still, if you count the 'tax breaks' other usians get (e.g. mortgage) that i don't.
asciilifeform: trinque: you can't be a well-fed wolf just by wanting.
trinque: one's a pile of fungible derps; the other pointedly isn't
trinque: the lottery metaphor doesn't square with the wolves and rabbits metaphor at all.
asciilifeform: where you can't cheat.
asciilifeform: they don't get wedged in minimax pits.
phf: And it's most definitely that you can't reason out of minimax, so sitting there "how does" is not going to work
phf: Anyway I can't communicate that point because I only infrequently manage it, and the results are always predictably +ev, but perhaps it's the idea that minimax requires painful break, but then possibility space opens up and a talented person like yourself will have a relatively easy (though not effortless) time exploiting it
asciilifeform: phf: how does 'move to argentina and do cash' work on folks who ain't already rich
phf: What I'm saying it wasn't always "eat a naggant or be awesome" ☟︎
asciilifeform: but couldn't be arsed.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu generally doesn't have actionable advice for blokes
pete_dushenski: nah, he'll remind you that soviet chick doesn't need to know when 'wall falls', just needs to know right guy to get her through to other side. there was mega-thread on this at one point.
asciilifeform: b) the folks who ~are~ hiring reversers, CAN'T FIND them
pete_dushenski: ft. meade doesn't read logs ? for cereal ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i actually don't have much to choose from. 95+% of work in my field requires usg 'top secret'.
pete_dushenski: surprised you haven't programmed own autonomous car ferfuxake. it wouldn't take a month's worth of time stuck behind idiotic wheel in mordor traffic
pete_dushenski: i, for one, couldn't imagine spending >1hr just to ~travel~ to work and back. each way. my mind boggles that millions in 'first world' spend 3hrs+ (this is sop in, say, toronto)
pete_dushenski: shinohai: don't be surprised if ustards go that way too, particularly as average skin shade continues to endarken
jurov: but the problem isn't url parsing
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: another reason why i wouldn't build my own bbet : the same reason i also wouldn't build my own cpu fab. i'm less 'inventor' than 'pro-scavenger'. i'm not 'early adopter', but rather 'fast follower'. to work to my strengths, i wouldn't start my own bbet anymore than you'd start your own strip club.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Clintons can't write for qntra
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i think you're better off asking ivanka trump to write for qntra than shinohai. he just doesn't wanna, it seems.
asciilifeform: kako warned that his src isn't of much use to civilians anyway
trinque: hats off to everyone who didn't get caught like this guy.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: We don't usually get massive pileups and these pipe explosions are infrequent. House explosions happen anywhere orcs are allowed to go feral while playing homeowner
BingoBoingo: Spotify and Pandora don't have live traffic updates
BingoBoingo: anyways asciilifeform 1. Furfags don't have a Turing or a Jurov to redeem them
mircea_popescu: a ? haven't really been following.
mircea_popescu: ah, but i don';t mean it re germany specifically. could have said france or italy just as well. what i mean is, that a "rule of law" bureaucratic government with an economic presence is strictly speaking the nazi party irrespective of any consideration, chief on the list what they say or think they want. ☟︎
wywialm: and in Poland it won't be easily forgotten
mircea_popescu: once that changes - they'll take it all. and i don't mean houses and cars, i mean blood and livers. they also have a market value.
mircea_popescu: you'll be hard pressed to find a fiat corp today that is anything but another pirate ; and even fifty years ago you'd have been hard pressed to find a fiat corp that wasn't a sort of bASIC from our friend tom with blood and tears.
mircea_popescu: anyway - back to the scam thing briefly - bitcoin does in fact deliver on its "best economics lab ever devised" role, for they capable and willing to look. the whole "didn't start out as a scam" thing that is pretty much the universal rule of fiat anything, played itself more obviously, more rapidly, in the hands of more naive people less versed in covering it up.
mircea_popescu: "it's not a scam, it's a meaningless paper construction built by people who weren't evil, just wrong, and who should have known better but didn't" ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (and for people who aren't in finance and don't follow that trade, perhaps a good primer for the "gaussian copula" lulz is http://trilema.com/2013/why-mpex-is-better-than-fiat-institutions-part-349085-we-dont-use-excel/ seeing how nobody wants to admit or discuss the matter anymore much like the jews forgot all about sabbatai zevi.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this "realize" is of the nature of "you have to understand we love you", ie, entirely devoid of cognitive content. it is a bit of propaganda one has to accept. ok, so they accept it - or don't. fine. what now ?
mircea_popescu: because you can't trade away what you can't define.
wywialm: yes, it is not possible to be insulated from anything and stay 'active' in any meaningful way, but it doesn't mean that you can be exposed to everything or that one shouldn't choose carefully what risks to take and from which to insulate.
mircea_popescu: except now you can't make bets.
wywialm: i didn't even know this one
wywialm: i haven't yet got the hang of deedbot voicing
asciilifeform: quite unlike the rest of computing, yes, but don't take my word for it
asciilifeform: mod6: for a good example of one that ~isn't~ - see the epic mircea_popescu thread with otp!
asciilifeform: conversely, don't ~accept~ grunts.
asciilifeform: yes, there live idiots who sign 'yes' and 'no'. don't be them.
asciilifeform: just don't sign nonspecific grunts
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1448245 >> pete_dushenski> o sorry that, left those out because unsigned << signature wasn't required! ☝︎
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I am tentatively adding the t as per davout's announcement
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: Znor987 << there's a "t" in there
mod6: mircea_popescu: ooh. huh. no wonder i didn't see it.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1448228 <<< sorry! i have to admit i was slightly disappointed to see you didn't take bb home ☝︎
pete_dushenski: not like i wasn't planning how i'd overcome this retardation if i was going to be handling >100 txen per mo, but hey, someone else's problem now i guess
hanbot: didn't i see some pic or other of moscow's main freeway, >15 lanes, absolutely gridlocked?
asciilifeform: zimbabwes weren't meant to have piped gas.
mircea_popescu: except she doesn't.
mircea_popescu: much like byzantine peasant couldn't construct the orthodox delusion ; much like alf teh bee dog can't construct washington.
mircea_popescu: the only thing she can't do is, construct the mental infrastructure of pretense she subscribes to.
mircea_popescu: which is the problem here. even when it works, the "appstore" didn't work for the rational reason, but for the irrational one.
mircea_popescu: a similar cognitive process would be to say : a) i don't fuck bricks ; b) another exists ; c) therefore, another fucks bricks.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a point, this is a psychogenic bit of nonsense.
asciilifeform: but my point was that folks-who-definitely-aren't-me own the whole lot.
asciilifeform: it is classic app store - 'don't like it? go sell on the street, keep 100% of the pennies you get'
mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated but omfg i can't believe this - cascadia dwelling derpy mother of slavegirl that wants to think of self as "fiber artist" but otherwise crochets like any old woman since time immemorial, landed what to her appears as a very good deal. she sells her stuff in a senior citizen center gift shop. for a 15% comission. to understand each other : she provides the merchandise. she provides the sales workforce. sh
asciilifeform: or, even more so, 'ghadafi is not a real sovereign because he doesn't come to davos'
mircea_popescu: you know, sorta like how "russia is not real country because putin doesn't invite obama over"
mircea_popescu: "it wasn't a real company because we didn't count for shit in the sale"
asciilifeform: 1ofthesethingz doesn't belong!1
pete_dushenski: phf: if the sale of a bitcoin company for 250k btc didn't get mentioned, a measly 86 btc sale doesn't stand much chance of crossing the lips of the peeple
mircea_popescu: so you like templeos because it has persistence and graham because, apparently, gavin doesn't have to work for a living.
phf: so i don't read hackernews or reddit, they are mentioned here a lot though, so i decided to check if a sale of bitcoin company for 86BTC (damn) is going to get mentioned anywhere. nope. nada.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell davout don't scare-excite me like that next time! (wait, what next time?) also, i wanted to show up here, but couldn't quite meditate and irc atst ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform geometry doesn't really matter until physics decides d^x is a factor :D
phf: i feel like i have some code laying around to do comparison, but won't have wandwidth for a bit
mircea_popescu: anyway. the forever-bitcoin, ready to be buried under the sea or w/e, is not happening. because : "<mircea_popescu> how are you going to define a sorting rule for a type you don't know yet. <asciilifeform> by knowing it ?" is actually inescapable. ☟︎
phf: the person that i was a [big bank] vendor with is actually doing that right now. a trained apl-er and mathematician, having spent few years interacting with [big bank] decision makers now consults on a handshake basis for companies that need a problem solved, but don't care if it comes with a pretty windows gui ☟︎
mircea_popescu: even in countries far distant in time and space, that couldn't rightly spell it./
asciilifeform: what ~isn't~ possible, per godel, is to arrive at this using brute idiocy
asciilifeform: this is directly 'why wash hands, sanitation doesn't exist.'
mircea_popescu: so yea, i would say this is very much equivalent. we CAN'T actually make computer systems. and every time we try to make a larger one, we're stuck re-calculating a sort of "pi"
mircea_popescu: except the larger the things they tried to build, the worse it got. but then they fixed it. because, as alf the greek beedog says, "it IS possioble to make wall that won't leak!!11"|
jurov: isn't this parallel with old greeks thinking "all numbers are rational".. till they found out they can't?
phf: it's a philosophical discussion, and mp, not being a programmer, is realizing that ada or c or .. is not actually it from where he stands, doesn't mean can't be used, just not magick. ☟︎
jurov: all we have is some deryp prrof that "we think of something that we don't know how to map to N"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can't define jack shit for a cpu without actually lying somewhere about what you did. is the problem.
phf: mp keeps saying that you don't have a way to solve it as an abstract
phf: i don't understand why the point mircea_popescu would be so controversial among compscis here, it's sort of the whole point of numerical analysis
asciilifeform: they don't EXIST in engineering.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: easy, just don't use the idiot ieee float ☟︎