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lobbes:
mircea_popescu: nice bug findin'. I'll make sure it is rolled into the patch
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:32:29
mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-12 13:51:42
mircea_popescu: and as to the "bois etc" -- is very well fucking earned. the logs since
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1950066 ie a week ago are sorely missing a "trinque: yeah, I WILL DO THAT". or an equally clear, "no, i won't do that". this is what separates the bois from the men : FIRM committments.
deedbot: BingoBoingo paid
mircea_popescu 0.0072
deedbot: BingoBoingo paid
mircea_popescu 0.31271724
deedbot: BingoBoingo paid
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lobbes:
mircea_popescu: ok, is just putting it on my testblog for now acceptable?
lobbes:
mircea_popescu: I can't see any reasons why not. Sure thing. I'll reach out to them
lobbes:
mircea_popescu, I'm currently using
colocation america but the jury is still out on them imo. They are very responsive and accommodating, but I'm only renting a server from them (have not tried actual colocation)
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: He already became a Northern Hemisphere problem. Also landed in the other hotter, drier (zebu cattle) guay.
lobbes: Alrighty, good meeting. I've my takeaways of things to knock out. Will keep
mircea_popescu apprised
lobbes:
mircea_popescu: I'm good to begin installation if you do get box. I'm still looking into getting proper "echo of blog lines" created, but the rest of the bot is ready
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: he seems to just need someone to commit to ownership of the thing he did, lolz
lobbes:
mircea_popescu: well, I was under the assumption you'd get a box with a trilema copy, and then I'd stand up bot on said box
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu jfw dorion diana_coman lobbes: thank you for the clean, clear, logs
lobbes:
mircea_popescu: how would you like to testrun? If you just want to play with the demo connected to my testblog, I can simply bring the bot into #t sometime tonight
dorion:
mircea_popescu thank you.
dorion:
mircea_popescu I think my strength at present it more on the pm side and communicating to non-technical people why they should take interest in sane computing. Part of my role has been bring people for jfw to teach. With that being said, I am interested in improving my technical skills.
jfw:
mircea_popescu: nothing coming to mind.
dorion:
mircea_popescu point taken, thank you. jfw reviewing the contract, Gales Linux is described as your original software, but I don't know the legal standing of that claim.
jfw: ty
mircea_popescu, underscores the importance of getting it published.
dorion:
mircea_popescu at this point, we have high trust with those it's been shared with. we're young hands in part because we're unclear about to properly approach such problems.
dorion:
mircea_popescu we've been using kernel 4.9.95, which is what bvt genesis'd.
dorion:
mircea_popescu I'm present as well, able to fill in where needed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:47:13
mircea_popescu: suppose you talk to both fellas here about the thing, i wanna follow along
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:32:29
mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo.
hanbot:
mircea_popescu huzzah, ty!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:47:54
mircea_popescu: so i suppose this is the first actionable we unveil here : ima want an estimate on a) how long to divorce dev server from cs ; and b) how long to move client cs on cuntoo.
ossabot: Logged on 2017-12-14 13:45:07
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751463 << it does exactly one fucking job. this one : diana_coman please don't talk to asciilifeform or take any further advice from him. total timewaste.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:32:29
mircea_popescu: trinque, suppose spyked's game, and what you have to do is run the two fellows + whatever we can meaningfully accrete through the tmsr-ization of cuntoo.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:40:32
mircea_popescu: an' that leaves of the human hands ave1 an' mocky thoroughly unaccounted for.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-08 06:39:24
mircea_popescu: lol dorion, nice pile of lulz you got there. diana_coman has the details, but in very general : gotta take it easier, man. it's just... it's the internet, you know ?
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: It's always a nice feeling to bog down a computer with your own history.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 07:29:35
mircea_popescu: because i'm thinking... i should probably just import all antique logs, have them in one place finally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 22:32:10
mircea_popescu:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949990 << the thing here is, minigame will need to use a os. this means a very simple binary choice : either it uses something made by us, or not. the criteria for the former is that someone's in charge ; the criteria for the latter is that it's convenient.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:37:54
mircea_popescu: gawd, spyked, two months of irc bots till the end of the year ? srsly ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:53:05
mircea_popescu: couldja patch this in ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-08 02:45:51
mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't make myself very clear. the ~displayer~, python-based as opposed to apache based, has no future.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57
mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46
mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07
mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57
mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have a chatlog eater tool ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 10:03:46
mircea_popescu: i don't foresee any future for the current python-powered item.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 09:55:07
mircea_popescu: lobbes, the only problem is that e= is unpopulated. i'm currently using
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:43:55 hanbot:
mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: At least for the first half of 2019 their very flat wages normalized into dollars were above much of eastern Europe. 20,000 pesos was 600 USD to 700 USD versus the holy European 500 USD
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: sigh; you'd be surprised perhaps but I doubt it's worth the time to describe in much more detail.
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: that's precisely it, the "who or if uses" does not even enter into consideration there; it's built "because it should be so according to the ideals"
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: re-reading the discussion yesterday it occured to me that the loggers & irc weren't mentioned at all
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: we will also need some lightweight place to set up the website
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: I'm happy with home-hosted dev.
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: review as in finally being able to actually benchmark the server and get some concrete idea as to what it needs ; as a result it might be a new machine, yes.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 20:57:25
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:27:30
mircea_popescu: any preferences re spec ?
trinque:
mircea_popescu: nor I, certainly not what I'm doing. these distros are just... quite large
billymg:
mircea_popescu: yup, the plan remains, january will be the time
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:37:43
mircea_popescu: and you verified you can actually deploy this proto cuntoo on various hw, so we're good here : as to 1, smg will use proto-cutnoo until can switch to cuntoo ; and meanwhile ima see what trinque has to say re cuntoo and try to get bvt to patch against it and so on
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:39:33
mircea_popescu: billymg, what's the mp-wp story, did i miss some updates ?
BingoBoingo: The
mircea_popescu method works far better than what I could have done on my own. Thank you.
BingoBoingo:
mircea_popescu: I'm working on a plan for #agriculturalsupremacy as a castle, but its still too raw to present as a default option on the level of what diana_coman and hanbot can offer.
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: no, I thought it was just not online.
hanbot:
mircea_popescu & c: my channel is/was #trilema-hanbot
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: ah, I thought she already had hers but mainly aimed at a different demographic?
hanbot:
mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: I'm still here if there's some q re #o you want me to answer
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: just to make sure re order of my next steps here:
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: the production server has been running before and it can run again as it is; the issue there is really the one concerning access to the code if we just put it ~anywhere.
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: this is added on my tree, I didn't yet get to sign it
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: not as far as I know; it was always *not done* but always popping up in people's memory as "working"; except every time I wanted to *move* a file rather than have it del/add, it turned out that ...no.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-01-13 09:29:50
mircea_popescu: ad interim the draft is, that the client stores all the keys (rsa, serpent, whatever) one per line, the rsa ones in republican format, the rest unspecified as of yet, in a file called keys.tmsr encrypted by the rsa key of the client.
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: we have eucrypt that generates the rsa keys and serpent and all that client and server need; we however do not have (and it was supposedly in discussion/waiting/etc) a clear way to store them securely; let me dig log ref
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: it might be useful to go through the list of things perhaps
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: would the demo client be text-only then or what?
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: ah, I see; I suppose the thing is that cuntoo is currently a server-side system really (no X)
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: I would say it's a most improper dependency really
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: production server "uses" cs because it's intertwined with it (uses data types and the like)
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: are we fine with cs as-is on client side? there are 2 aspects there: 1. dynamically linked 2. the dependency on jam/ftjam and all that
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: my main question here would be whether it's worth this intermediate proto-cuntoo step
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:31:53
mircea_popescu: can you boot the server as things stand at all ?
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: that is AMD with dulap-gentoo aka proto-cuntoo aka NOT fully statically linked
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: atm as they are none will boot because none are fully statically linked.
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: what do you mean exactly by "boot the server"? (and which one: production or dev?)
diana_coman:
mircea_popescu: not until I get rid of cs or move it to gnat and build it statically