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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 08:12:38 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938065 << sadly this is a html breakage. the options are delineated in article : either use span and not cross paras, or else use div and end up with an extra newline.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anyone who wants can run the current logger and declare 'i aint syncing, mine writes to antifuse rom' etc. very easy to turn syncing into nonsyncing logger, just dun sync. but i think i get how and for what mircea_popescu's is supposed to work
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 04:44:35 mircea_popescu: ie, if "selection doesn't work for me" "why not ?" "because what i want to select recurs", give some thought whether indeed "selection is broken and should be fixed". WHY do you want to select something THAT RECURS, and recurs so much it actually doesn't allow you to extend the context slightly, one character at a time, resolving your problem ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 08:42:44 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938136 << this is quite the idea. i have no expectation trilema log and whoever else's such log be machine-identical.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938261 << this appears to be the key : if mircea_popescu's item aint intended to be a syncable logger, then naturally it dun need to giveashit re dates problem etc.
asciilifeform eats mircea_popescu's output, may take a bit
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:23:25 mircea_popescu: so check this out trinque i changed my mind! http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << rating < 1, actually.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:54:44 asciilifeform: it's possible that mircea_popescu intends his item to be standalone, rather than pilot plant for all 'canonical' loggers. then dun matter so much whether calendar etc.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:38:25 asciilifeform: the other thing, the adhoc traditional line select is human-friendly, very fast to grab a line url, whereas mircea_popescu-style selector less so, gotta find unique start/end text, when citing from trilema it usually takes asciilifeform 2-3 shots to nail down the correct snip
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:26:36 asciilifeform: in related grrs, asciilifeform recently attempted backport of mircea_popescu's selector knob to own wp, but broke teeth cuz it dun know how to cross paragraphs, and i have '9000' multi-para selections, esp. in ffa series where coad
diana_coman: (and them mircea_popescu will write a mandatory-reading thread of more than 500 lines and my log-selection via log-raw will fail).
diana_coman: morning mircea_popescu
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:22:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938053 << ideally would pipe it into sumthing like a table layout, so can select w/out repeatedly including speaker indicator per line e.g. 'mircea_popescu:'
asciilifeform: it's possible that mircea_popescu intends his item to be standalone, rather than pilot plant for all 'canonical' loggers. then dun matter so much whether calendar etc.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:34:07 mircea_popescu: oh, and is this a search bug, btw ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:54:16 mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
asciilifeform: this problem, incidentally, if not cured, will persist in a hypothetical mircea_popescu-style pregenned-pages logger.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:41:56 mircea_popescu: consider both the positive (no convergence language'd ever have emerged out of "oh, phf did excellent job with logger") and the negative (without "we have these loggers, how do we sync them" nobody'd have ever understood why mp-wp is a better display mechanism than "this shit i just brewed").
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:37:54 mircea_popescu: loggers as extant suffer from being built manalone style, from scratch, as such the only possible in-page selection is an ad-hoc (but very functional, as it happens) by-line.
asciilifeform: the other thing, the adhoc traditional line select is human-friendly, very fast to grab a line url, whereas mircea_popescu-style selector less so, gotta find unique start/end text, when citing from trilema it usually takes asciilifeform 2-3 shots to nail down the correct snip
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 05:08:58 mircea_popescu: billymg, did you ever find the trilema article re how to re-do your missed pingbacks ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:41:56 mircea_popescu: consider both the positive (no convergence language'd ever have emerged out of "oh, phf did excellent job with logger") and the negative (without "we have these loggers, how do we sync them" nobody'd have ever understood why mp-wp is a better display mechanism than "this shit i just brewed").
asciilifeform: can't think of any reason not to ~display~ them as mircea_popescu described tho
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:37:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938036 << nor do you give a shit, seeing how the lines aren't indexed.
asciilifeform: in related grrs, asciilifeform recently attempted backport of mircea_popescu's selector knob to own wp, but broke teeth cuz it dun know how to cross paragraphs, and i have '9000' multi-para selections, esp. in ffa series where coad
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:52:01 mircea_popescu: for this reason any imanentization (ie, mapping of concepts into reality) will revolve around a "paradigm" / wilful blindness of some kind. "how could i not think of that" is always lulzy -- if you thought of everything your head would explode. and that's a literalism : if you somehow fit all states of its own emptiness into a glass it'd go boom.
asciilifeform: sorta how mircea_popescu does when writes article featuring log segment
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:38:22 mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938053 << ideally would pipe it into sumthing like a table layout, so can select w/out repeatedly including speaker indicator per line e.g. 'mircea_popescu:'
asciilifeform: lobbes: see what mircea_popescu says when wakes up.
asciilifeform: lobbes: it's 1 of the reasons why asciilifeform did not like mircea_popescu's original tip re how to bake logger ('just pipe it into a wp') ; but mircea_popescu did specifically ask for 1 that does exactly that, for own www, i presume he knows what he's doing
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:05:45 mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this 1 was a piz-wide outage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yours was specific to dulap ( where phuctor db was being walked just as mircea_popescu happened to load ) , recall that other boxen were unaffected
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:39:18 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, an' considering we're apparently stuck with a buncha chrises over here : any of your resident knights capable of registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code on top of extant bot already ?
asciilifeform: ( or did mircea_popescu divide by 0 an' crash before got to that part..? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, he starts with rhetorical 'but how could be political' then proceeds to show entirely edible concrete example
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:12:25 mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:12:25 mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 14:59:46 mircea_popescu: so yes, there's ~IMPLICIT~ policy in intellectual stance : if you're smart, you're here ; if you're not here, you're ~THEREFORE~ dumb. and so following.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he was at some pt 'tomservo'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely interesting orc couple. he (adrian), minor philosophist wanna-be, writing twice a decade minuscule nothings ("what is not existence", 1994). she, mirela, doing ~exactly~ nothing. both born in the periphery, mid 50s, exactly another inginer-profesoara couple like so very many at the time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these new 'spies' aint tryin to bring back seekritz, but instead simply spread rot, a sort of bipedal smallpox blanket. seems to work
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:58 mircea_popescu: and so ongoing -- in case you were wondering why bologna is such lulz, or why feminism is such a nothing, or so forth. all a concoction of convenience ; we enslaved all their good spies back in 1992, and well... all that's left is all that's left, a different flavour of [http://trilema.com/2011/serviciul-nemuririi-partea-i/#comment-131551][institutionalized w
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:23:44 mircea_popescu: damn, rating > 1. so 2 trhough 10 inclusive.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 06:27:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yup, was the cap.
hanbot: ^mircea_popescu
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:36:17 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: mine is diana_alt
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: mine is diana_alt
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: doh; lol.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I think this issue with self-voice vs lordship comes from #trilema being both republican halls (ie lords discussion) and your own training halls (hence nicoleci's problem to self-voice if only-9 can do it);
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: isn't bvt lord verschlimmbessert?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:14:26 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << no, rating of 9 specifically, able to self-voice.
bvt: mircea_popescu: i.e., in this context my rating remains +2, hence no self-voice in #trilema?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 07:01:56 mircea_popescu: of course, this could readily also bear the alternative interepretation of "there is nothing the rater WISHES TO SAY".
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: is there some eta/requirement on/for the castle-licensing thing? on my part I'm fine with it as stated.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes, but not sure I see the point of "unset"; it's 0
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:14:26 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << no, rating of 9 specifically, able to self-voice.
billymg: mircea_popescu: i could be completely missing the point though, i'm still not very familiar with pingbacks outside of the small bit i've read since you mentioned it
billymg: http://billymg.com/2019/09/additional-tests-for-mp-wp-now-according-to-spec/comment-page-1/#comment-49 << mircea_popescu: i now see what you mean about the pingbacks supporting the extra selection parameters but i'm still not sure what is meant by "trashing the whole trilema trackback pile as extant, and having them re-done in the new manner"
mod6: mircea_popescu: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=QF_3 (for mp_en_viaje)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: normally i get ~0 comments for weeks on end on my www; then in 1 day half dozen, and remembered 'could actually keep track if had recent-comments...'
mod6: mircea_popescu: Ok Sir, just re-encypted to mp_en_viaje for ya; http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=wTRb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same as the brits did, neh. no one picked up an' walked way with india
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: betcha it's a dead cap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i fully expect that early 2000s mb's will do decade+ unless one hammers nails with'em
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if not a mega-seekrit , what was it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how many yrs do you typically get out of those mobos ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: oh no! sorry to hear about the mobo. not an emergency at all. in a rush atm, will re-send later, no worries. :]
lobbes: incidentally, mircea_popescu with your permission I would like to bring the bot into #trilema during the next week for further testing (it wouldn't need voice; just needs to quietly sit in background). I'd like to see how it handles a heavier log-load
lobbes: mircea_popescu: pls to let me know if you'd like the formatting tweaked. Both in terms of the textual output of log lines as well as the url format, and title format.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-22 16:37:18 lobbes: With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 16:09:47 mircea_popescu: shall say what had in mind on man's blog
mod6: mircea_popescu: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=dtwG
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 12:57:32 mircea_popescu: you should have seen that dork, he creeped up to us while we were watching some locals zumba and all schmoozey "what is this ?"
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937556 << The derp's flaffing suggests he's one of the formerly redpill/PUA types doing the now common loser turned Neo-Puritain moral crusader thing. For some reason he's fixated on mircea_popescu as a Jew of some sort.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 13:47:13 mircea_popescu: btw diana_coman you still feel like hungary ? have a cuppa this weekend ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 13:03:01 mircea_popescu: hasn't actually read any of the links (nor do i intend to), so in theory this may be entirely baseless hatemongering on very comme il faut goodfolk who totally see the length of their nose.
asciilifeform: interesting , possibly, detail, the performers weren't entirely 'apolitical', tended to make light of the clergy/nobility , so nailed somewhat like mircea_popescu's moscopol & co.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 1600s ru, the church had an episode of rampaging stupid, and ended with ban on not only performing gypos but , for a time, all musical instruments. the bear specialists converted to straight brigandry, adding to already formidable head count of thieves/brigands.
asciilifeform re bear -- could've sworn mircea_popescu once wrote a piece re 'ursar' , the old caste of bear handler folx. but can't seem to find.
asciilifeform: a. i saw 'I'm back from two-and-a-something months abroad' and thought ' mircea_popescu & co didn't stay for the autumn rains ' etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2019/09/easterly-travelogue/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 12:22:19 asciilifeform: ( from hanbot's piece i drew conclusion that mircea_popescu is back home, but possibly he's simply 'night shift' nao )
asciilifeform: ( granted, mircea_popescu's piece iirc did not mention search )
lobbes: asciilifeform: well, mircea_popescu's spec all of the lines are to appear on mp-wp articles (hence, the database piece is the backend for mp-wp, which is mysql)
lobbes: With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-22 08:29:51 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937495 << that took a whole day ?! what, db switch hairier than alleged drop-in ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: well, it's the use not the items, the usual "omg, not used according to my expectations therefore bad, abominable, can't exist etc"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: eh, on some topics some people always "have no idea"; in the best interpretation possible, because it's so alien from everything else they have.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: eh, he made it to the newspaper, ok?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: unfortunately I can entirely see him because he's so...unique I suppose.
diana_coman: bwahaha and mircea_popescu did not "want to answer" lmao
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:15:14 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937511 << there's a space there, in between "ima drag this to sea" and "i intend to ~commercialize~ this".
asciilifeform: ( from hanbot's piece i drew conclusion that mircea_popescu is back home, but possibly he's simply 'night shift' nao )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:40:53 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937493 << i think mayhaps an alf's grown accustomed to the above morning occurence huh. sorry alfie, i don't need to take a dump EVERY morning ; even once a week's way ahead of any normal digestion....
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-22#1937543 << lol i actually like waking up to a mircea_popescu piece tho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty great, i'm almost surprised there aren't (or are there...) moar of these
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-21 04:21:57 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-20#1937480 << this is exactly right. fucktarded protestants, protested the papacy for being too inept and corrupt ; built themselves a derpier, more inept papacy in its place.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 04:16:36 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936289 << i don't recall, what was the eta for this ?