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trinque: how many decisions do they make on their own per day? what's the ratio?
mircea_popescu: there is at no point any fucking question of a) being required to take her back in or b) being required to give up the mansion.
trinque: asciilifeform: I think Bushes and everyone like them are entirely trapped
mircea_popescu: let's start with a simple thing. if x owns a mansion, and x owns a wife, and x beats the shit out of his wife and throws her into the street naked to henceforth fend for herself,
asciilifeform: the only solid hypothesis i can make re: bush et al is that they know what 'it' is, having scratched all other conceivable itches.
asciilifeform: see the old mircea_popescu article re: teenagers and sex
asciilifeform: but my 'it' doesn't work. because it is the answer of the shipwrecked sailor re: what is best in life - 'food! water!'
mircea_popescu: and you keep not wanting to.
mircea_popescu: you get to say what "it" is.
mircea_popescu: fucking us president, still lives worse than his grandfather,
mircea_popescu: obama's life is shit, in kenyan terms.
mircea_popescu: same idea here. you think X has it ? no usian has it.
asciilifeform: and bush's, too
mircea_popescu: and this is what i meant earlier re "revolutionary term of art". there's this notion that members of the proletariat fight each other over imaginary class distinctions instead of uniting.
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking point of soviet life.
mircea_popescu: the breaking news being that no, x doesn't exist. all soviets live like animals.
asciilifeform: the $maxint folks who never see the inside of a courtroom except as plaintiffs
mircea_popescu: or so you posit. because "x gotta exist, and y is the more likely to succeed".
asciilifeform: nah, the ~real~ mansions are where corzines, SES plum book, etc. live.
mircea_popescu: what whatever ? no whatever, tu quoque.
asciilifeform: sorta more like the warm zone at auschwitz
mircea_popescu: so then if you yourself don't accept the thing you propose as proof, as proof, what do you want from me!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i lived in suburbia. which is pointedly not the same thing, the mechanism whereby the police are kept distant is entirely different (obedience)
mircea_popescu: who the fuck do you think actually wants to fuck you.
mircea_popescu: nobody's getting "anally dilated" in prison dude. wake up and smell the coffee, erections are rare. ☟︎
asciilifeform: whereas to me, 'corzine is not getting anally dilated in prison' =~= 'there are mansions, and they are off limits to police'
mircea_popescu: so you lived in teh mansion ?
asciilifeform never lived in a mansion, but has lived in streets where the police show up every day, and ones where didn't see a single one in a decade of staring out window
trinque: also, "can house all the help" which of course implies on-site help
mircea_popescu: anmd you knoiw this how ?
asciilifeform: if this, then they certainly qualify in practice !
mircea_popescu: seems the basic definition of mansion includes "off limits to police"
trinque: BingoBoingo: I was going to say, one measure might be whether the cops are going to need something more than a boot to enter
mircea_popescu: i meant more like "this no longer happens but it continues to happen for me only". it's nonsense.
asciilifeform: hell, i expect proper honest gasenwagen to make a comeback.
asciilifeform: i'll be the first to admit.
mircea_popescu: whereby you can somehow magically be a thing of the past only.
mircea_popescu: this thing only works in the mind of soon-to-be-smoke jews.
asciilifeform: -- never for rent, to anyone, and never subject to inspections, etc
mircea_popescu: if it were possible to have one i'd consider getting one.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dude. it does not seem to me possible to even have a mansion in the land of "we rent - unfurnished!" and "building code" etc.
asciilifeform: i say, a rich fella's house, built to european standards
asciilifeform: let's have the earlier bit though - what is a mansion really ?
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem with formalism is that it doesn't practically yield anything past bad "art".
asciilifeform: eh that's where i see anybody who doesn't commute to an office as elite
mircea_popescu: you famously also thought random rotinculo/mortidifame journos are the wealthy elite.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall the revolutionary term of art, but nevertheless, ideas formed on the basis of stuff glimpsed through the gps machine are not reliable.
asciilifeform: i can already see mircea_popescu telling me, that these ain't mansions unless the stones are at least 1001 years old and were put on with druid blood
asciilifeform: ~they~ are not the ones being dekulakized.
trinque: though hell, don't they have the good sense to evacuate by now?
trinque: can confirm that there's plenty of old money on the east coast
asciilifeform: and the horse it rode in on (c)
asciilifeform: one, and the other.
asciilifeform: because i don't see the improvement.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278952 << is this meant as some kind of improvement on good ol' yacc ? ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: ah, then why are you driving by them? Do they have carp to steal?
asciilifeform: by the narrow street that one would never see but for the gps machine.
asciilifeform: not by the highway.
BingoBoingo: By the highway?
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 22:53:43; BingoBoingo: Of course. The mansions asciilifeform describes driving by are made of plastic and toothpicks
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278943 << when i say mansions, i speak of actual mansions. we have'em here on the east coast. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 22:52:25; mircea_popescu: meanwhile in reality, poverty is poverty. the us is very poor, and so everything directed at keeping people from being useful "works". of course it does.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278941 << this is the EXACT same basic thing as debeaking (ask a poultry farmer) ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 22:30:57; deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The goldfish telling the great white shark what life’s like in the ocean, and other logical fallacies. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/18/the-goldfish-telling-the-great-white-shark-what-lifes-like-in-the-ocean-and-other-logical-fallacies/
BingoBoingo: Just another day in the ghetto https://archive.is/W3PJg
cazalla: a-ok, don't really follow it much these days but i see rousey is headlining the ufc down under in november
BingoBoingo: cazalla: No, this was fight day, pissed in three different cups
cazalla: BingoBoingo, not really up to date on it all, last i heard he just ran away instead of taking the test
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> 5 years for cannabis, but i wonder if silva would've got less for his escapades if he didn't run off << He passed two of the three tests
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was a piece linked from qntra, regarding american 'certificate of loss of nationality'
mircea_popescu: also the only cln seems to mean to me is a credit linked note.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform get a different citizenship, deny you ever had us citizenship, let them prove otherwise.
cazalla: mmm smell of burning mesquite.. gunna have to watch for black people jumping my back fence trying to steal muh chicken wings
asciilifeform: stead of the usual set of usg banks.
asciilifeform: 'Foreign financial institutions require ex-US individuals to show them a CLN (or provide a "reasonable explanation" of why they do not have one) to comply with the exchange of information provisions of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) and the various intergovernmental agreements the US has signed with foreign jurisdictions.' << ahahahahaha l0l!! pay $3k to get the privilege of using this other set of usg banks in
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> how the latter flows from it < dishonest software does not require honest hardware the way i see it << more or less unrelated. dishonest accountand doesn't require dishonest FED nor vice-versa
asciilifeform: phf: if you compile standalone that is
asciilifeform: phf: they all have fuckin' ~huge~ binaries so far as i'm concerned
BingoBoingo: Second Note to potential Qntra submitters: Stuff doesn't have to necessarily be "amped up" to appear on Qntra
BingoBoingo: Note to potential Qntra submitters: If you want to submit a story you think is interesting, but don't think you know how to amp it up... the editors can help with that
trinque: see, I knew there was a BingoBoingo hand involved in that title
BingoBoingo: trinque: It was hdbuck indeed. He came up with the Thunder and I added the Butt, with his approval of course
trinque: ah that was hdbuck
trinque: BingoBoingo: oh btw "regulatory butt thunder" had me in stitches
phf: asciilifeform: actually i think the main difference is that sml/nj has a repl and better debug messages. i think these days the two are pretty much on par. shows how much i remember, last time i touched either it was on ibook g3 linuxppc
cazalla: i read something before how trump was all mafia'd up back in his new york days and fucked over lots of people, nfi to veracity
BingoBoingo: ^ trinque
deedbot-: [Qntra] Trump Campaign Payment Processor Fleeces Donors - http://qntra.net/2015/09/trump-campaign-payment-processor-fleeces-donors/
phf: (i was driving between places in turkey, so no internet access)
phf: asciilifeform: yes, i did some ml a while ago. i used sml/nj as a default compiler, afair it had full language coverage and nice emacs support, i would then port code to mlton or mlkit. mlton has a particularly nice feature set, small binaries, everything's unboxed, gc can be tuned, but it's full program optimizer, so at the time i didn't have the patience to use it as my primary compiler.
kakobrekla: how the latter flows from it < dishonest software does not require honest hardware the way i see it
BingoBoingo: I've stopped trying to make any sense of fucking silver prices
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2015 19:14:43; kakobrekla: if the bar is so low that most existing and running code contains scamcode, no wonder why noone asks for an honest computer
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278749 << the former's prolly right but i still don't see how the latter flows from it. except for some people, i guess. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and his less is unaliased also. fancy that.
asciilifeform: could end up on the other side of it any minute, any day, just like that.
asciilifeform is one of those weirdos who skates precisely on the bleeding red edge that separates being able to do your thing, in the above sense, from not.
asciilifeform: they didn't have to do bizarre circus acrobatics to stay fed.
mircea_popescu: well, in the case of the ones you heard of, anyway,
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Turbocharger is the one that uses exhaust gasses to provide compression. Supercharger is different, uses engine belt to provide compression. Huge performance difference when it comes to the first couple miles of driving.