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asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: as i gather, you are trying to follow the example of mircea_popescu , who - famously - has never worked for pay, etc. but afaik mircea_popescu never had any problems receiving mail or having own comp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he'd better have put his sword in some stone he can later get to, out of the jail.
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: why did you take gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html offline (just curious)? (it's still in google cache.) decided it'd be not as easy to commercialize? :p
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: v is a publication instrument, not a swine-herding instrument.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: sure, but I'd be generating a key on something that regularly connects to the internet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you have ~very~ good memory, and can rsa in yer head...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: get a second point and draw a line, even
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik you need a postbox to register corp in usa.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel make a corp already ; it's like fiddy bux, can be done online, then you can be the officer get bank accounts deposit cash get warehouse rented sleep there.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i hear ya, i'm interested to take a peek at the thing, tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am to believe that 'man can sell' but not enough to rent a post box ?
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: you need an ssh account on a vps?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: suppose so eh
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: fd at mkj dot lt , gpg fingerprint E2DF 986D 58A0 D387 6BA1 65FA CC05 10AA FD8A F4B7
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: expensive, full of retired admirals et al
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it isn't particularly near where i live, but i've been there, it is one of the few habitable / clean / civilized towns i've visited in usa
trinque: mircea_popescu: he'll have a hundred bux for teh candy
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: i don't have much free time now, either. maybe end of next week, at this rate. re. CLIM web - any notes / writeup to help? as in, 20min of your time to save some hours of my time while helping you? ☟︎
phf: gabriel_laddel: https://common-lisp.net/project/closure/
phf: gabriel_laddel: have you looked at closure?
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: possible to ship x220's to US for you? not that i'm committing as of now. there are nice refurbished ones here in UK
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: this is disgraceful
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: 1. he can fly 2. he can do something useful for tsmr~ == get the CLIM-web thing up and running inbetween here and gossipd
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: d00d get a key, srsly
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel how does this relate to having someone drive all the way from canada to hand you laptops ?
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: also, apologies for not checking logs. the question naturally springs to mind, so to speak
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: wtf happened?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I do.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ties into (naive or not) hawala discussions, i guess...
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you don't buy them off amazon ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "here's the shopify page, now it's legit to pay 700" ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: no passport, but that sounds like a plan.
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: you want a bouncer?
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up gabriel_laddel
Framedragger: i still don't understand how much of a browser replacement it is. interesting, tho. what does gabriel_laddel mean, "can gmail"? => can javascript?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so how about you hop in a plane and bring me a coupla ? i'll buy you a steak even! ☟︎
Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: nice.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: correct.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: We're talking about masamune I presume (which sure, isn't really separable from CLIM)?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so it actually is ho-level complete replacement of ipad whatever, they can do on your item whatever they do, snapchat, whatsapp, whatever ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lmao. it's the real deal.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they seriously made that domain ? i thought was just bingo being memetic. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: why hos specifically?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel so basically you can make lisp machines i can give out to hos ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: your 'irc server' deals in what, stream of characters ? of bytes ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu really ought to have properly laughed , aha
trinque: gabriel_laddel: I cannot corroborate your experience
asciilifeform: it is as if i asked 'how does your proposed replacement for tetracycline work' and gabriel_laddel answered 'tetraethyl lead in my 100 octane avgas prevents engine knock'
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: noted. (that's actually a problem i'm always easy to be set off on a stupid rant, but it's harder to be constructive etc. not that this is a unique trait. and there's a superficial connection to the whole rant-y nature of things, that is:
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: in what sense is this ' tsmr~ web ' ??
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel is this cl-fpt an apache replacement then ?
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: you're going to have to give "web can now be a thing" a bit more detail
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: !!up gabriel_laddel
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: regarding the "let's do cicada" objection - there probably are several angles which one could counter with - is the main one basically what trinque said, i.e., it's a form of (dishonest, to boot) bait-and-switch, which selects for some $random_criterion and the latter may not at all translate into what's actually useful?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 17:39 mircea_popescu: but it is reassuring to see that a century later, the menshevik-bolshevik debate is all happily chugging along.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHmzm_NgpM0 << in other horizons, the owner of kim's ass, one kanye west, <3 Trumpenreich.
pete_dushenski: *firmly shakes hands with ben_vulpes*
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: you should also sign, yes ?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: scrap 'drafted in' line and jam it into deedbot?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/2ldg3/?raw=true << just added a couple commas and updated block height. signed and sealed.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:42 mircea_popescu: there's an advertising site ben_vulpes tried to make long ago (which is what jurov was referring to - though iirc i handled payments there) ; there's also the http://trilema.com/2015/a-proper-social-site-for-the-bdsm-community/ which may be related (at least in the social component). should it be related ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569742 << in fairness, "trinque" as well as "mircea_popescu" is an account in the meaning here contemplated. you already have accounts. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:27 jurov: what does electrum do? enables one to accept payments without having "mismatched amounts are kept" sinkhole in the foyer, which ben_vulpes seem to be too fond of.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:01 mircea_popescu: read more like "i'm not smart enough for this one, try next door" to me :)
shinohai: Ironically, an individual with the name waffle_ shows up blue in my client.
deedbot: waffle_ voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up waffle_
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:53 mircea_popescu: the attractor is the futility. the plain and unescapable certainty that if they succeed NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. the point about "yes white racism exists - it's white people hating themselves" isn't just some superficial flurry of rhetoric. it informs the deepest recesses of subconscious thought and minute behaviour, "if nothing happens then nothing bad can happen" is not just why sane kid chooses for himself "a goivernment job"
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: objection against current republic outlook, or objection against being all snore-ful and despiseful while at the same time grumbling about republican efforts being slow and the republic being poor? :)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm off home from work. will try to formulate sth constructive later
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: like or not, serious work for e.g., tmsr requires some degree of it
Framedragger: but then you have very motivated intelligent people trying to crack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada_3301 - the latter being possibly a recruiting campaign - so maybe it's also a matter of outreach strategy...
asciilifeform: iirc there were earlier instances where mircea_popescu and other folx tried to recycle'em into something: the incident with the rental posters (who was that..?), the 'get epsilon btc to make eulora player', possibly other instances of beehive-fucking ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-06-02 18:30 mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or what
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. bdsm board, sure it could be, the latter, as i understood it, would be a general e2e encrypted forum board (permanent post) solution with signatures etc.
mircea_popescu: there's an advertising site ben_vulpes tried to make long ago (which is what jurov was referring to - though iirc i handled payments there) ; there's also the http://trilema.com/2015/a-proper-social-site-for-the-bdsm-community/ which may be related (at least in the social component). should it be related ? ☟︎
Framedragger: i guess could be done manually for small (< $dumbars_n) webs of trust. with billing templates / gpg contracts, etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: curious - harder in terms of management, or in terms of technical implementation, or combination thereof?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i don't know just how interested you are to find inexpensive modellers etc, but just fyi peopleperhour.com may produce...better results. (but yeah, not for five bux.)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 15:25 mircea_popescu: i would rather have an world bereft of any life on it ; than have more of the current crap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and rsa key can be whole kbyte long! ohnoez, what if bit flips!!1
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2**160 / 8**10 = 1.3611294676837539E39
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:27 jurov: what does electrum do? enables one to accept payments without having "mismatched amounts are kept" sinkhole in the foyer, which ben_vulpes seem to be too fond of.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 11:33 mircea_popescu: jurov what's electrum do again ?
mircea_popescu: and in other news - archeries! http://68.media.tumblr.com/b3777d2e2d5c4f45f2f03c393131cfd5/tumblr_mst7e1JV451sfcru6o1_1280.jpg
jurov: what does electrum do? enables one to accept payments without having "mismatched amounts are kept" sinkhole in the foyer, which ben_vulpes seem to be too fond of. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other useful backholes, http://68.media.tumblr.com/1e44f38e5f48f5ae2e1bec8170b1244f/tumblr_msp5lhRElu1rlp32eo3_400.gif
jurov: orly. i haven't seen ben_vulpes actually process something since VAN :)
deedbot: the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: !!up the_scourge planning to do something about all the reconnects?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2qvy4/?raw=true
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: no rush.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ty fxd