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mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i am very skeptical because rsa they hated and ecc they pushed and then suddenly everyone forgot the 90s and is all onboard.
mircea_popescu: what is this "absurdly" large ? why is 4096 even large at all ?
mircea_popescu: the algos for ecc will ~never come out, until the day i water my horse out of the repurposed washington monument, of course.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, looky, i get that i may seem retarded at times and in some lights, but it's not a safe assumption.
mircea_popescu: so work is a curse, and not substantial to mankind ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, is not man made for work ?
mircea_popescu: as no advantage.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, and the "that many attacks against RSA dont work with ECC" claim is especially odious, as it comes from a single source, which is a criminal org with a history of manipulatively lying. what happens is that usg publishes every ~useless "attack" on rsa and withholds the few ~working~ attacks on ecc from publishing. then you get this situation where seemingly, for the very naive surface-seekers, "ecc has advantages". it h
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, well, which part of it ?
mircea_popescu: my budget for a key happens to be 4096 bits. it makes 0 difference to me that there's a cheaper provider offering 16 bit keys. everyone offering a key under 4096 bits is par for this test.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i proposition that the smaller the key, the smaller the key. this can't be meaningless.
mircea_popescu: and not just human manhood, at that, ~all species.
mircea_popescu: but... listen. isn't this the whole entire proposition of manhood, both biologically and socio-historically, "go ye and make a pile of resources so females may be attracted thereby" ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, but is it immoral for both the harlot and the guy paying her ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, the only thing you can get with a smaller key is "something just as good", in the sense mcdonalds is just as good as the restaurant i go to. perhaps it is -- for the poor. i'm not poor, nor do i orient my life around the needs of the needy.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, no, they're fucking disputable. you're going to tell me you get "the same thing" but "with a smaller key" ? i'm tuning out, this is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: the whores ~and~ the johns ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, what is the problem with prostitution ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i don't buy into the advantages.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, prostitution is legal here (costa rica). are they all going to hell ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, given like that for the sake of ready computability, see. nothing more.
mircea_popescu: !!up Darwin_Fish
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, was just an example.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, tell me about that ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, isn't it silly, to ruin a long standing relationship like that, over what was in the end a small error ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, maybe he was confused.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i suspect you're right.
mircea_popescu: but how do you know what he thought ? "the devil himself knows not the tought of man" etc.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, how does that work though ? i mean...
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, the idea being that the "wtf are you going to do, keep talking forever with anyone you ever talk to ?! morons!" problem is not unknown, but a major item giving me a bellyache as it stands now. invariants, god damn them all.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, so basically he ran up the church / your ccs, and eventually it had to come to an end ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, tmsr, the most serene republic, this thing. gossipd, lessee.... there's http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/ and http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=gossipd and not much else. it's vaporware for now.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, aha.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, that doesn't tell me much, does it ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, yeah. have you seen anything re gossipd, ~speaking the tmsr-wireguard ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, honestly, i'm satisfied with this for an answer "look, wireguard can be used many ways, nothing wrong with your way, and it's supported, but in general other people want other things and so there it is".
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, check it out, agreement and harmony. now satisfy my curiosity : what happened with al soto ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, quite, "why ?" is an escalator, every successive why needs exponentially more resources to answer.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, so is your idea that basically this should be handled by the app importing your lib, rather than the lib itself, more flexibility this way ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i don't mean random (20,200). i just mean, the size of your smallest non-zero packet. was it 8 or what was it ?
mircea_popescu: WHY the fuck does rsa even work >:
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, and that is the substance of my proposition earlier. there is no place known to me where the most refined and annoying whys can be stated quite like in this field.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless... without the why...
mircea_popescu: eventually they give up, mostly because adults are TERRIBLE at answering why ; and also because they get distraught, and the children dun wanna bother them. so it gets rubbed out.
mircea_popescu: yes. but i propose to you the instrument thereby is the infantile tendency to question "why ?". that's what they fucking do, all day long, at least the brighter ones.
mircea_popescu: yes, but i mean in practical terms.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, good. so what would you say is the fundamental thing in children that eventually, but necessarily, leads them to at the very least question the possibility of divinity, if not outright seek it ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, some random 8 byte string or whatever.
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, anyway, theology is the study of divinity as a theoretical possibility ; religion is the study of historical human practice. the catholics resolve this problem by claiming (falsely) that they were specifically promised god will preserve their religion in theology. this claim has all the strength of their claim constantine deeded them the world.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, but the option isn't exactly "send nothing or send 0 length message". the option is "send nothing / zero length message OR send the time".
mircea_popescu: shinohai, one line only!!1
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, how did that work,
mircea_popescu: hehe, i might've read that somewhere.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: they all say it. but do they really ? so what's the difference!
mircea_popescu: well, have you ever met a religious dude who didn't SAY, and broadly think, they're following god ?
mircea_popescu: Darwin_Fish, you ever heard that quip, that "in theory, there's no difference between theory and practice ; in practice, there is" ? "theologically, there's no difference between theology and religion. but religiously..."
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, go ahead.
mircea_popescu: but we're discussing theology not religion. cryptography is eminently not a religion. in fact, i'm the frirst one to have ever said anything remotely like the foregoing, and it's giving crypto people hives just reading it.
mircea_popescu: i'll propose something to you : inasmuch as one is in a better position understanding god for god, rather than understanding god for what some guy said, cryptography is the most direct path to divinity.
mircea_popescu: do you know about rsa and cryptography and so on ?
mircea_popescu: ever been on irc before ?
mircea_popescu: hi there Darwin_Fish
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, does that work ?
mircea_popescu: NOTHING however sums to 0, not in reality, becasuse there's no negative integers in reality.
mircea_popescu: multiple things sum to any integer larger than 0.
mircea_popescu: if i have a message, which is not null, i can package that message in any string of any arbitrary sized chunklets. so your observing 8+16+24+8+8 does not tell you whether you observed 5 null messages, or a 64 message, or 4 16s, or anything else.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, yes.
mircea_popescu: whereas the proper definition of "general purpose" is the one mentioned, "which makes no assumptions about the userland". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose at work might be a confusion between what-some-idiots-might-be-thinking-retroconstructed-on-the-flimsy-basis-of-how-they-behave, where "general purpose os" means "the sprinkle of magic turning the computer from a computer to anything i want it to be, which is to say a tool that magicvally works for any purpose i might come up with, especially the nonsensical and self-contradictory ones".
mircea_popescu: then they moved to a non-general purpose os, and alf threw a fit because the thing took time to boot or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the best example i can think of is the code on the old handheld calculators. THAT is a general purpose os : it makes no assumption about the downstream, merely fully, cleanly and directly exposes the hardware. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked, i disagree general purpose os is actually a null concept, or a useless one.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, now'd be great.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, indeed. hey, purity is a great boon for blogging.
mircea_popescu: spyked, i don't see how this distinction works. what does "eliminate word from vocabulary" even mean, you'll take out some classes/dependencies/whatever out of a pile of lines of code, leaving a them-shaped hole behind.
mircea_popescu: aaaand omfg, caught up with the logs! that... was painless.
mircea_popescu: ftr, i thought your post was quite elegant, 99% of bloggers, begginner or otherwise, would have fallen into the ditch of "oh, i r allmighty powerful deity, i crush your companee!!!" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: the signal is indeed VERY strong from these parts.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799742 << you don't have to try. with the company you keep, it does itself. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and let's reintroduce the http://trilema.com/technology-and-governance discussion here as well.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, this is not a problem with modern industry as much as it's a problem with the EXTREME cognitive cost of design.
mircea_popescu: buildings, however, are a very opposite attempt : the dismal resistance of air (and see also un prophete discussion of winds here) and the minimal and well understood constraint of gravity allow enough free space for design to be a thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as a matter of fact, there's no design in cave rooms : you will dig where the soil [read: resistence of the medium] permits you to dig, and that is all.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1799724 << this is the equivalent of "designing" a caveroom. tell you what : if your approach is substractive, no systems engineering took place. the guy hacking a motorcycle out of two broken cars isn't an industrialist, he's a scavenger. these are fundamentally, and radically, different things. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: they put pegasus turds in those cups didn';t you know.
mircea_popescu: nah. the line really was for whitehoorse riding prince charmings.
mircea_popescu: and so following.
mircea_popescu: "tourism" you know. as if that fucking counts as travel. "totally not brownstone tenement sir" british houses consisting of 1.7 sq ft of garden in front, and "bbq space" behind.
mircea_popescu: it's the "tourism" "modern democracy" etc idiocy.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, there has yet not existed such a system where the top wasn't leisurely. the "leisure / no leisure" discussion contrasts "leisure for all" with "leisure for some"
mircea_popescu: which is generally what is meant by "africa", also.
mircea_popescu: leisure is a precondition for the many aspect of civilisation whereby woman sits on ass all day yakking annoyingly.
mircea_popescu: well, hunger. the usa has perfected the shit sandwich to the point nobody is ever hungry. as a result... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798480 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but those are the two and the only two ways to bring back loot for your trouble.
mircea_popescu: so, if your desert march results in a jewel of code, a la ffa, sure. if your desert march results in ample "lulz" as we call them, ie, intricate, unforgiving documentation of orcs' idiocy, sure.
mircea_popescu: the one where he has a lot of fun / sees a lot of things / is all impressed / tastes all the tomatoes IS NOT useful.
mircea_popescu: and more generally : there's two kinds of sallies a gentleman may engage in. the one is where he comes back with a boatload of gold/tomatoes/whatever. the other is where he comes bacl with a well written tale of his travels.
mircea_popescu: if you just keep the results in your skull, it's better to not go.
mircea_popescu: understand the important point here : such marches in the desert are ONLY useful if well documented.