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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty. plox to ping me week or so prior so i can start the gears moving
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: aite, End of April is when we need to get the datacenter the next cash infusion.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to reinvoice me with '4', and i'ma owe 1 worth of orcbux movement
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-reds-of-1879/ << Trilema -- The reds of 1879
asciilifeform: spyked: ty for the ping , item got literally buried under pile of papers. dug it up nao , and i'ma post it tomorrow morning. ☟︎
billymg: mircea_popescu, diana_coman: sorry, i misunderstood. makes sense now, will add it to my list
a111: Logged on 2019-03-06 14:55 asciilifeform: spyked: yours for cost of postage. gpggram to asciilifeform with where you want it sent.
spyked: speaking of which: asciilifeform, any updates re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-06#1900589 / http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-06#1900675 ? I'm not in a rush; I have a temporary setup running, but thought I'd ping you re this ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-29 00:22 BingoBoingo has trinque's bootstrap.sh running. Going for a walk myself.
spyked: in spyked updates: aside from polishing feedbot part 2, I've also been playing with http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-29#1906050 in the last coupla days. I'll post on blog with the results soon ☝︎
diana_coman: it is in its own dir and project because that's what it is - a project that tests the code of interest.
diana_coman: billymg the tests I have are simply automated ada and/or c/cpp tests for the code, nothing v-specific really; from V's pov it's just code like the rest.
mircea_popescu: not an emergency item or anything, but i thought you already had it, and that's what you meant by testing.
mircea_popescu: as in yes, automated tests, like say eucrypt has.
mircea_popescu: billymg, no, the idea is that you maintain a test suite.
billymg: diana_coman: related to the test branch idea, if you have anything of yours you could point me to, for figuring out a v-centric testing flow, would be appreciated
asciilifeform: phf: i found & removed the last uniturd ( was in the manifest.txt , from the day i made it ) . this however means that there in fact lies a uniturd in the 18 patch ( the removal line , naturally . ) after this i expect no moar .
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 21:23 Mocky: billymg: if your tinymce patch is ready this weekend I'll test it with my setup.
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905200 < sounds good, i think it's in a good state. will try to have it patched on top of hanbot's on saturday ☝︎
billymg: if that's what you meant by test suite, just to clarify
billymg: in terms of test suite, i didn't actually write any automated tests for mp-wp, i only meant the manual testing i did, plus reading my own patch a few times
a111: Logged on 2019-03-27 17:14 mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch.
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905107 < i like the idea of a dev branch alongside a production branch. is the idea that after after a patch (or set of patches) is deemed mature enough it will then be added to the main branch? ☝︎
asciilifeform: if anyone's impatient, i'll link to the vpatch/seal, otherwise it'll wait for the text
asciilifeform: meanwhile, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch18/ffa_calc__adb.htm << final ch18 ; still working on the accompanying text
BingoBoingo has trinque's bootstrap.sh running. Going for a walk myself. ☟︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/pgRtg << related, in re orc naval thematic.
asciilifeform: $item was interesting largely for the description of eltsin-era navy , what with 'get spare parts somewhere, we won't say where' , 'you'll be paid next year' , questionable rations, boats sinking in dock, & related joys
asciilifeform: ( the 48,000 tonne thing, btw, in natostan called for some reason 'typhoon', rather than the smaller. pretty interesting machine in own right, largest undersea vessel ever built )
asciilifeform recently read a pretty spiffy , and i dare say mircea_popescu-flavoured ( good % was re how, where, whom, the folx fucked ) memoir of sovok 'akula' sub officer in '90s. d00d was moar or less 'meat computer'
asciilifeform: thing was run kinda like trinque's wallet.
asciilifeform: iirc we had detailed thrd re subj
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, they ~had~ servos ; and even had pdp-like comp ; but did not trust the latter to connect to the former
asciilifeform: granted the jp item not as efficient, if you recall it's the pellet thing , built for constant output
asciilifeform: ( for comparison, standard sovok sub reactor, somewhat larger affair, approx the size of mircea_popescu's bmw , was good for 20-30y of 300-400 MW )
asciilifeform: at the wattage a reasonably-sized brit lord's house might theoretically have appetite for, the fuel would last for century or 2
asciilifeform: i imagine that if that jp micro reactor thing had existed in '30s -- london would be fulla'em
asciilifeform: that's gotta be the key.
mircea_popescu: london is a shithole. half the year wet and cold.
asciilifeform: ( and prior to that, in age of gas light -- kept own gasworx running 24/7 )
asciilifeform: marketed to same landed gentry folx who e.g. kept own coal-fired generators stocked 24/7 on the estate , in early days of electric light
asciilifeform: seems like was a pyre to conspicuously burn money in, as it was
asciilifeform: as it is, i dun fully grasp the appeal
mircea_popescu: so you know i has this very great capacity for passivization, you can in fact start a fire again from a coal fire 6 hours old
asciilifeform: we had thread where i looked for photo of in what
asciilifeform: how else to explain the 'feature' where 'you dun need to light it! burns and burns'
asciilifeform: as i understand thing doubled as furnace for room heat
mircea_popescu: let alone TWELVE
mircea_popescu: now how do you propose to burn three tons of coal in a year ?
mircea_popescu: silver is 15 dollars an ounce, by consequence 240 dollars per pound ; coal is ~80 dollars a short ton
mircea_popescu: recall ru fleet taking 3 years to reach japan ? "no access to british ports"
mircea_popescu: it worked because aforesaid british embassy set, and so everyone going to port in english ports bought coal. so they subsidized.
asciilifeform: how'd that work ? sovok-style ?
mircea_popescu: million km of trees. Germany with its over 80 million people does not have more than 600,000 km. "
mircea_popescu: this, quite exactly ~this~ is the substance of hitler's lament, " It is similar in the world. It just does not work, to have 46 million British people block 40 million km² of earth and simply declare: God gave it to us, and 20 years ago we got some from you too; this is ours now, and will not give it back. And France, And France with its not very fertile earth, almost 80 people on a square kilometer, yet they have over 9
asciilifeform: price of coal was a constant ? or vendor proposed to guarantee it ? )
asciilifeform: 'The AGA is the only cooker in the world with a guaranteed maximum fuel consumption. It is guaranteed to burn less than £4 worth of fuel a year….. Stress the fact that no cook can make her AGA burn more fuel than this, however stupid, extravagant or careless she may be, or however much she may cook. If more fuel is consumed, it is being stolen, and the police should be called in immediately' << strikes me as peculiar claim ( what,
asciilifeform: i suspect largely evaporated by '30s tho ; so not sure what the author was thinking
mircea_popescu: but in any case, the reasonably well to do man in the city kept dozen+ females + half dozen males in bread and shoes with little difficulty, and plenty of dough leftover for consols.
mircea_popescu: these latter were sometimes used as venereal-undiseased fuckrelief for the older son ; but generally, it's a harem with very little fucking going around.
mircea_popescu: the male staff was generally butler, gardener, chauffeur, one or two handymen [plus, of course, all the military folk, in older times]. the female staff was a maid for the wife, a maid or nanny for each child, a main cook, possibly a help, and a pair to n indistinct maids, brushing the silverware, abrading the tables one layer each week, scrubbing the floors etc.
asciilifeform: and ubiquitous terminology there to this day, survived revolution and eltsins alike, парадный вход / черный вход ( 'parade entrance' , i.e. for people, 'black entrance' , i.e. for servants + garbage )
mircea_popescu: the butler (head servant) generally opened the front door ; the head maid did not open the back door -- usually you'd get one of the scullery maids.
asciilifeform: as i understand 'aga' is ~the~ prototype for the current-day ubiquitous kitchen stove
mircea_popescu: back before roosevelt and his successors permanently fixed the quality of life, a man's household (in which he kept a single woman and her issue, plus some servants) had a front door for peers and a back door for servants and suppliers
asciilifeform: ( most ameri-housing either has no back door , or glass thing that goes into fenced yard and defo no marketer would ever go there, liable to be bitten by dog or worse )
asciilifeform: very obv from the '30s brit orig
asciilifeform: 'There are certain universal rules. Dress quietly and shave well. Do not wear a bowler hat. Go to the back door (most salesmen go to the front door, a manoeuvre always resented by maid and mistress alike)'
mircea_popescu: it's like the fucktards are trying to build an empire on knives, but bereft of a blade and missing a handle.
mircea_popescu: note that the core of the advice the chief practitioner of what's left of us economy consists of... !!!!!!DO NOT!!!!!!! pretend to lordship!!!!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-05 02:51 asciilifeform recently reread 'tigerfibel', really a megaclassic of technical writing for all time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, might appreciate https://www.agamarvel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/aga_ogilvy_booklet.pdf ; rathert a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1764714 item, at least by the lights of the anglos. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Lincoln winning the war of Northern Aggression in this respect was a European failure.
BingoBoingo: Well, how could they when they went from Seward through the end of WWII without Europe slapping them?
mircea_popescu: i suppose one can't fairly discuss the matter without pointing out that the ogilvy-derivative concept of "pr agency" is precisely this, witness to the usg's self-aware failure to develop a diplomatic service and a woprking embassy network, leaving the english as the last practitioner of the florentine art.
mircea_popescu: you don't get much done, you're uncomfortable while it's happening, and they have very strange notions of ritual purity, unparalleled even by the shiite.
BingoBoingo: As opposed to the stories I have heard from US embassy.
BingoBoingo: Entertaining her with the marketing budget is the point.
mircea_popescu: the old woman wanted to know if she maybe has a lot of castles-in-spain style "unknwon inheritance", typical argentine thought process.
mircea_popescu: when i visited the one in argentina, they were just entertaining a local older woman with a pile of 1910s era letters from her romanian-immigrated ancestors.
mircea_popescu: generally there's a girly around ready to hand some fliers or w/e to whatever adventurous locals.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, romania does a lot of things right though i suspect by accident. ie, none of the idiotic glass walsl, either, you visit you sit down in front of old style desk, like sane people.
BingoBoingo: Romania has the obligatory "Sleep on this stoop and you get fucked" fence to keep the pichis off the porch, but otherwise clear walk to the door.
mircea_popescu: ie, if the locals wanna come over, you wanna not let them ?! wtf, are you fucked in the head ? and then go about spending money to makle events to raise profile ? while at the same time throwing away the freely had curious visitors ?
mircea_popescu: the fencing's the other fucking thing. who the fuck heard of fenced in embassies anyways.
BingoBoingo: I mean it has mega fence, but... the place is just about a country club minus the land for golfing.
mircea_popescu: but that "best-by" date's sometime before rhodesia's end, i guess.
mircea_popescu: ah yeah, the uk embassies. that was a lulz of all time during the "union" while it lasted -- the brits had the first useful, and perhaps the last functioning, embassy network.
BingoBoingo: UK embassy here is roughly equal to a small clubhouse with pool and Satellite tv.
BingoBoingo: This city is littered with those things
mircea_popescu: (very typically EMPTY, an eu embassy, too. besides purely ceremonial "third cousin of president/king taking vacation", there's ~nothing happening)
mircea_popescu: the euros are the saddest of them all -- they dun have the state entreprises, notrly, and they dun have the other half either, not really, it's a wonder they persevere.
mircea_popescu: no such thing still available, from white world embassies, at least not at the level where it should be. the iranis, eg, still do this for their citizens. the usgtards don't because they have no citizens, it's all govt entreprises and plebs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, one aspect of this is fo sho : traditional (with a view of only) function of embassy is as "den of corruption", ie, they acquire over time intimate knowledge of detail, can help you do things.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can use any eu embassy indistinctly. at least in theory. in practice -- they're fucked.
asciilifeform: whereas today, behold, you can go into 'embassy of latvia', where folx hand-picked by washington dos will show you in which queue to sit etc
mircea_popescu: well, they did this, ro-nl are in such a compact.
asciilifeform: rly they oughtta take a page from the old sovok, and unify the thing, save on cost of printing stationary
asciilifeform: entirely possible to argue that no such thing as 'nederlanden' embassy, it's simply branch office of washington's
mircea_popescu: you got me there.