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mircea_popescu: Melissalmao your first one was way too blurry, you missed half the face in the 2nd.
mircea_popescu: aite, seems like the dulap clone is the correct approach here. we'll maybe look at moar cuntoo stuff later.
mircea_popescu: in any case we have to reconcile and converge these two trunks.
mircea_popescu: next you know, he's sucked through manifold, spends them in hospital.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, listen, better if you put the gentoo in, unload his schedule some.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ascii_lander anyway, i expect you'll keep each other entertained for a spell with mg server, so.
mircea_popescu: but he got fucking deluge and other arbitrary "here's some web-picked shit" going on his, so i am currently very highly regarding it.
mircea_popescu: cool. ascii_lander you using trinque 's recipe or own device ?
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me : next trip could actually be bingoboingo himself ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, so are you going to become the al soto v2.0 ? historically the guy did a lot trying to get the thing online, with mixed success.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, pic the lovebirds, i'm curious if any of the weight rubbed back off on him!
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, it's not world-readable in principle, but you can just lock it to yourself only without drawbacks also.
mircea_popescu: but the why not was re " he's not interested in doing the whole irc thing".
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, sounds like permission issue on the js dir. check all your htaccesses.
mircea_popescu: ah. well, same to you, except you';re already registered lol.
mircea_popescu: have him register himself, get a cloak, he's silly dreaming of south california while eschewing this wonder.
mircea_popescu: well, if he does it in channel he'll prolly get whacked. if he pms them... whatever. maybe freenode won't like it.
mircea_popescu: douchebag, for the record, this thing whereby you get a coupla in, wait for them to be processed, get another coupla in etc is not only dumb, but against the very concept of a batch. get all of them in, save me the trouble of having to handle n batches.
mircea_popescu: im not proposing anyone's doing something wrong. i'm disputing whether anyone's doing anything at all.
mircea_popescu: the ancient "a philanthropist is the guy who gives me money so i can do what i was going to do in the first place".
mircea_popescu: "well gee! if you can trnaslate it for me, why can't it all be about what i want to do anyway ?"
mircea_popescu: they're the necessary fruit of "here, learning languages is too hard, we translated it for you"
mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to the 2nd fold of the error : the NOTION of translation is pernicious, and stuff like the protestant lulz of "church of self-esteem" or "we choose to emphasize <bla>" are not unbound errors.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: sure, here. i meant with the religious practice abroad.
mircea_popescu: it is, if it were what occured. most of the time it's not what occured.
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast the handling of #b-a / #trilema split and rando "incorrectly minded" etc. withdraw yourself from egregious idiocy of a pernicious bent, sure. but...
mircea_popescu: there's space enough between "from such withdraw yourself" and "and should be cast out".
mircea_popescu: are you stuck maintaining god's wot now ? why, because he's too stupid to know how to work the rating system ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but it is never because of a misread and always because of an erection. referring to the sources never fixed the latter.
mircea_popescu: so what do you need a translation for then, just use their string as-is.
mircea_popescu: so then what's the use of these suitable substitutes ?
mircea_popescu: eaning, as captured in "traddutore, tradditore" or otherwise in english "conversion" as the form of theft.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the argument against translating is twofold, and leaving the first obvious fold aside (hey, perfect translations may be impossible, but good translations do exist, and that's the job of the exceptional person, wtf else -- anania did it in romanian, and others did it before, it is not entirely impossible) : it introduces the NOTION of translation. i dunno if you're familiar with the meaning of that term, the original m
mircea_popescu: were the book written in this heavenly tongue, it'd be immediately readable i guess. but it factually is not.
mircea_popescu: "suitable" may work in some contexts ; but in this one the word is already the seal of doom, you've lost.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the original argument against "translating the scripture" is so strong. and yes it was a mistake.
mircea_popescu: i can also read phf's code, "can read" is a low standard in this context.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, but the discussion was re his teens and early 20s.
mircea_popescu: "oh, so and so term means bla bla" motherfuckers, makes my skin crawl just thinking about it.
mircea_popescu: trinque, his other misfortune is of course environmental hazards. strikes me as a clever fellow who'd have benefitted immensely by spending his youth among people who could read the original greek texts, rather than in the mindless hive of pests "quoting" bits at each other. the functional illiteracy of the protestant church crowd wrt classic languages is patently offensive. picture "security expert" conversant in php yet una
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you know that jewish thing, "if wealth is a curse let god strike me down with it, and may i never recover"
mircea_popescu: trinque, this is a difficult point to delve into, so i'll just concede it for expediency.
mircea_popescu: and it won't work for you. not just because you're late to the game, they're about to put out the lights. it wouldn't have worked for you in the 90s, only, "surprised by wealth" half-stories & assorted gargle notwithstanding.
mircea_popescu: but a word to the wise : all the details aside, dear kids who dream of "revolutionizing" and "entrepreneur culture" and so on and so forth generally "usa-usa-rarara-techblabla" : it did not work for david fish, EVEN IN THE NINETIES.
mircea_popescu exposed the hand because danielpbarron doth have a knack for ferreting out interesting cases, so a sort of "here you go in exchange".
mircea_popescu: the reasonable expectation is that he'd have descended into madness by now ; which is the root impetuus of why the discussion even took place. "i wonder how the hell this guy hasn't shot anyone".
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the intricate details of the history of the interaction between him and that behemoth of inanity are literally worth the study. very clear cut teardrop diamond of issues surroundant male inheritance in pantsuitland.
mircea_popescu: if he's putting up an act it's like the most disciplined, dedicated acting i've seen.
mircea_popescu: 5. fast forward TWO DECADES. the guy lives with a small group in nature's own poverty in rural ok, then 5.a. refuses ~7 grand windfall on principle grounds but 5.b. does actually show up, ie, his refusal isn't the common "nyah nyah nyah can't hear anything" sort.
mircea_popescu: 4. he spent some time wrangling around the edges of this, words were exchanged, on the solid footing of complete misunderstanding : on one hand, "i am cool therefore wtf" ; on the other hand "dude, we're in the business of frantic activity as a cover for impotence, wtf is wrong with you".
mircea_popescu: 3. darwin fish spent a decade, up until macarthur was ~50, in that church (after some other wrangling, mormons, whatever). then suddenly, as he himself reached 30, there was a major "time for my own church" moment. except, of course, nobody gave HIM the bn-dollar moneymaker. any they even told him why : he's way the fuck too cool for it, or as joe pesci put it, "that was the last fucking time...."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: 2. this item went through 4-year leadership until announted the current head (a certain macarthur fellow). he was 30ish at the time (and is 80ish now).