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phf: i'm not sure how more easy can this be
asciilifeform: trinque: would you prefer that it depend on a unix log rotator ?
trinque: furthermore that it's even the job of the thing to clumsily rotate its own log
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc it doesn't shrink, in the classical 0.5.3, if debug flag is on.
trinque: that it's a debug log and someone thought well gee if it gets too big better shrink it
trinque: ShrinkDebugFile() << lol, the autism in this thing ☟︎
mod6: i don't wanna over complicate this to begin with.
asciilifeform: this kind of thing can only be implemented as a global thing.
mod6: just something unique to when executed.
mircea_popescu: how's a time dependency help you ?
mod6: i guess i could hash the epoch time and append it to the dir name, store it as a global for "session" key.
mircea_popescu: just a thought.
asciilifeform: and at the end of the day, 'v' is a unix proggy and isn't even a compiled thing, and utterly depends on 1,000,001 things that no one has examined since 1991.
mircea_popescu: you can still be lied to.
asciilifeform: create in such a way that creation fails if dir existed. problem solved.
mircea_popescu: gen memory key, keep it in a file keyed thus, delete on finish.
mod6: my thought was to create if it doesn't exist, otherwise die. and delete at the end of execution. however there is a scenario where if for instance a seal exists from a key that is not in the wot and the application exits before main returns.
mircea_popescu: it does offer a firm guarantee that "always the one you made"
mircea_popescu: so what if they aren't ?
asciilifeform: it would, if there were secretz
mircea_popescu: q : wouldn't the right way to do this be, "gen session key" ?
asciilifeform: -- a unique thing that never was and never will be again. ☟︎
asciilifeform: in lisp parlance, it has to be a 'gensym'
asciilifeform: and not one that was previously lying around, that is now about to have its contents zapped
asciilifeform: homedir oughta work, but the trick is that you gotta know that it's one you made, every time
mod6: at first glance, looks like one needs to "use File::Tempdir", so will veer away from that.
mircea_popescu: and in today's milking news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/91c1efcf80578e17d367a6cfc6d97787/tumblr_miljedZhkU1rdbtrjo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: 'v' doesn't deal in secrets, ergo the actual location is unimportant.
mod6: ah, similar to your py implementation? i'll take a look.
asciilifeform: mod6: see if perl doesn't have a built-in notion of temp dirs
asciilifeform: mod6: home dir is prolly the correct approach
mod6: asciilifeform: are you impartial to /tmp instead of ~/gnupgtmp ? I just put in the changes and this is what gpg spit back at me: http://dpaste.com/23A824E.txt
assbot: Logged on 02-05-2014 02:36:33; asciilifeform: decimation: for some reason, this reminds me of a tale my consulting partner (physicist, grew up in india, 1970s) told me. students would qualify on instruments that barely worked, but belonged, to, e.g. the great Bose.
asciilifeform: he learned on the 1.5k 100ohm resistors.
asciilifeform: which is how my brother still doesn't fully believe, in his gut heart, that physics works
mircea_popescu: i don't recall who had this display of "100 ohm resistors" that measured from 30 to a whopping 1.5k
asciilifeform: phun phakt, the reject parts went to... schools
asciilifeform: (chix with bucketz sorting transistors)
asciilifeform: was ~the only~ way to get functioning circuits, for instance.
BingoBoingo: "Of course the political assassination theory neglects motive for killing the real estate agent instead of killing the sheriff." << better?
mircea_popescu: that's how the nazis were beaten.
mircea_popescu: "Apple's fabrication partners appear to be taking the opposite approach, which is to select parts whose tolerance errors cancel each other out." << this is wartime engineering.
BingoBoingo: "Of course the political assassination theory neglects motive for killing the real estate agent instead killing the sheriff." better?
asciilifeform: killing -- the real estate
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'Of course the political assassination theory neglects motive for killing the real estate' -- missing a dash
asciilifeform: white thread.
asciilifeform: hence the application to spurious criminal cases.
asciilifeform: (this comes from old notebooks having held together with thread, that turned dark with dirt and age. when pages were inserted or removed surreptitiously, new thread was often used to stitch the thing back)
mircea_popescu: so then...
mircea_popescu: "because the public doesn't matter." ah, okay.
mircea_popescu: "|Ulanoff completely fails to examine this "oh yeah, we suck in some areas claim". Why? The guy's a "car reporter". No more, no less. If he says negative things about the companies that pay his salary, he gets fired and the publication for whom he works never gets another scoop/lead/exclusive." << BUT WHY ?
asciilifeform: or 'stitched with white thread'
asciilifeform: in ru we say the case was 'stitched together'
asciilifeform: this, in short, is why i found the case interesting to begin with...
BingoBoingo: Definitely for the comments, because I was not thinking of this part
asciilifeform: the whole thing smells as strongly as anyone might wish, of usg pushing the bounds of the possible.
asciilifeform: and stitched it into something for the jury.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aha, hinted but yes a point for the comments!
asciilifeform: where they found some schizo notebook of his
asciilifeform: by all indications, they jailed the crippled man and ransacked his home.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: spiffy article. but fails to mention that the writings of s. have not (afaik - has anyone tried hard?) been seen by the public; nor is it publicly known how and where usg obtained them (it is known, iirc, that they were NOT public)
pete_dushenski: mao too
trinque: the nazis had quite the multiprocessing going for a time
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1316544 << the back-and-forth over gpg registration would be entertaining, at least ☝︎
trinque: jurov: :) ty
BingoBoingo: Sometimes it can help to branch out
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: you're the u.s. legal/policing expert 'round these parts :)
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 13:43:59; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that's not so good. <+asciilifeform> which is not a thing that you want. << Ah, ok. Thanks for looking at it. Instead of using ~/.gnupg, would it be alright to create a ~/.gpgtmp upon startup and rm ~/.gpgtmp when complete?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1315736 << the way to do it is gpg --homedir /tmp/dirthatyoumadefortheoccasion << got it. will work on this tonight. ☝︎
trinque: jurov: pls switch disgests on the mailing list to off for me; I cannot
assbot: Cops to grab unlocked stuff from cars in East Rock area — for safekeeping ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nf1Xy0 )
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 00:10:19; asciilifeform: i cannot help but be surprised when i encounter, in the old words of ben_vulpes, 'clown cars glued to a spinning ceiling'
trinque: I'll have a taste of some low-hanging fruit this weekend
asciilifeform: trinque: there was a patch. iirc it didn't make it in for some trivial reason
mircea_popescu: poor trinque fell into a soup.
trinque: bitcoind trashing the debug.log each time has got to go
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The hang with words one. Finally doing the Severance/sheriff piece
mircea_popescu: wow, this is 2010 too ?!
mircea_popescu: ure gifted with good taste, and become his loyal servant."
mircea_popescu: "You want a non-tyrannical Apple? Rather than striving to weaken Apple so that it can be devoured by its brawny-yet-mindless competitors, do something constructive. Experiment with GUIs which don’t trace their descent to Xerox PARC. Forever renounce the idiotic practice of copying Microsoft, that cheap imitation of a cheap imitation. If you are creative, create. Otherwise, strive to find a strong-willed Jobs fig
mircea_popescu: course... people are talented at resisting it, but hey :D
mircea_popescu: hence "pay for your tits" schemes etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, that may be, but i do not waste most of my money downshifting people. in general i waste it upshifting people.
asciilifeform: doing wurk to make rentz.
mircea_popescu: not that it's not open to folk wanting the work and +wot centrality, but hey.
asciilifeform: you know that's how i waste most of it, right ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would honestly think it's a waste of your time to do this ?
mircea_popescu: it's almost like the dating market : some people are decent at picking up c hicks, and the losers watch them do it and... still suck.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i (and $maxint others) will port $whateverthefuckyouwant to, e.g., cray II. for a fee. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's very strange how stupid perpetuates itself in that market, in spite of better exampled extant, and well publicised.
mircea_popescu: which is what i/bezos would have done as #1 thing to do.
mircea_popescu: and the reason is, apparently, that steam doesn't have the wisdom to have expert packagers out there looking for work.
asciilifeform: all kolhoz follow the same dynamic, afaik.
mircea_popescu: and i'm marginally consdiering them (iirc was in the logs), but also kind-of meh.
asciilifeform: today 'steam' appears to be doing the temporary 'having' of that thing
mircea_popescu: missed by a mile, they weren't even shooting towards it.
mircea_popescu: and they HAD, 5 years ago, a thing.
mircea_popescu: imo they failed unconscionably at this.
asciilifeform: today - yes. it transitioned to the spamatronic cargo cult phase
mircea_popescu: want me to describe ?