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Framedragger: alf doesn't have time for much else. but this is just me being restless
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah so i'll prolly end up dumping 10M ssh keys on phuctor's ass, via its web interface. i wonder if phuctor can handle parallel requests, to a point :P i won't be an asshole about it. ☟︎
Framedragger: look i just came back from an awesome mountain hike, can't even move my legs, but have just enough energy to re-use someone else's precious hacky code to test the ssh-rsa db entries
Twix: i don't really know
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-idUSKCN0Z30W3 << huh, guess the "moderates" and the "terrorists" don't shoot each other when they mingle
trinque: eh I don't care; the US dicked the USSR in the ass whenever it could too
trinque: doesn't really count as a plan, but it's sanity
trinque: I don't think he's a puppet; I think he's the spray-tanned caricature of something better cultures produce
trinque: intentions don't really matter; it's whether he can do anything he's rambling about
asciilifeform: trump is no moar electable than perot was, and for same reason - will try to push the buttons that aren't connected to anything, and get belligerent, and has the resources to attempt to do something about it
mircea_popescu: and which, as an end game, i'm perfectly fine with. who the fuck cares the soviets don't like living in the best countryt in the world. a) i told them to leave and b) if they deserved any better they'd shoot the gestapo.
mircea_popescu: ere BOTH turner and popescu have 100 : in the second situation, turner doesn't stand a chance.
mircea_popescu: paying "good" dollars for fake altcoins. to people who aren't americans, or for that matter taxpayers.
phf: took me a while to figure out why my pgp key doesn't decrypt
mircea_popescu: but it won't much last. hard work and competence never lasts.
mircea_popescu: another case : fambly does poorly economically, borrows, can't repay. lender goes : either you produce crops or human fat, but you'll produce. so they do. etc.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly like "unjust enrichment" case in common law. "i gave youy a broken woman turns out she wasn't broken you owe me"
asciilifeform: because it isn't disney ?
fromphuctor: I'd rather know what the format is and assemble the bits in linqpad, if anyone has a reference lying around. Can't seem to find it quickly via google.
asciilifeform: only way clitler isn't elected is if election is cancelled.
mircea_popescu: except these aren't made out of real people, but out of esltards and other civilised shitheads, so they keep falling over.
mircea_popescu: anyway. hopefully they don't get spooked and do as you say. end up paying the market cap out of pocket a dozen times over the next coupla years, one for each consecutive hole.
asciilifeform: and it isn't like they had to ~spend~ any
mircea_popescu: s to realise he wasn't mocking the inept mit shit but actually playing it straight.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell thestringpuller Don't think that I don't see you missing days http://thestringpuller.com/ Gotta poast every day
mircea_popescu: i suppose accused rapist could say "i didn't rape everyone, just this one".
shinohai: but haven't seen BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: 'So there is a recursive payout 'problem'? No there isn't. It was all in the specification. When the DAO was fund raising, it was explicit that the only thing that mattered was the DAO's contract code. Nothing else should be taken as being reliable. Well, the contract code is still operating exactly as it was specified. A 'hacker' is merely using the code in ways that were there to see, should anyone have looked. How can they be stea
thestringpuller: yea. but order didn't go through via coinbr. jurov i think the proxy you're using is down.
Valfor: :/ it shouldn't have reverted to that
mircea_popescu: it entirely subverts pgp. and i don't believe it to be accidental either.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i don't like the "auto trust" bs.
shinohai: All are there except mebbe 2-3 articles I haven't finished formatting
trinque: the thing's fine to be linked to, but I don't think shinohai finished transferring pages
mod6: i haven't updated the links because i wasn't sure that the deedbot wiki page is fully baked yet.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw would phuctor (as it currently works) be able to import an otherwise normal openpgp / rfc4880 key either (1) no self-sig or (2) a somehow borked (nulled? haven't looked at rfc4880 data structures yet) self-sig? as i see it lotsa info is actually contained *within* the signed part, in that format..
asciilifeform: there was a very good thread where mircea_popescu explained this, but i can't seem to find it
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 23:17 mircea_popescu: more importantly : i don't want to outsource the management of my trust chains. if i trust you, i trust one key, not all keys in all derivations you may one day come up with.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 23:09 mircea_popescu: i don't know hpa. any item purporting to be hpa's key is fake, and this can not be fixed by hpa or anyone on his behalf through technological means of any sort.
Valfor: Well let me know if you do - don't want to be inadvertently breaking the rules :)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah k, i mean, i may disagree re. dunbar's number being directly applicable here, maybe i'm some l33t package maintainer, but fair enough, won't argue further here
Framedragger: otherwise doesn't scale at all, if 1000 people wanted to trust my subkey. i guess *you* could argue that fuck scale and fuck "lots of people", etc.
Framedragger: one practical consideration re you signing my subkeys: what if you really trusted my main key but then i later decided to move that key to offline storage for security, and derive a subkey - one may argue that gpg provides just this kind of means of streamlining the process - i sign my new subkey or whatever, and there's that, no need for you to meet me in person again. otherwise doesn't scale at all, if 1000 people wanted to trust my su
mircea_popescu: more importantly : i don't want to outsource the management of my trust chains. if i trust you, i trust one key, not all keys in all derivations you may one day come up with. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think it can ever be said "x phenomena shows only y abstraction".
mircea_popescu: "subkeys" are ~equivalent to "domain names" and various attempts to weaken bitcoin that were quashed historically. "wouldn't you like some wool over your eyes ???"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i don't see much merit in the whole scheme. gpg does something stupid and then maybe salvages some edge of it. mmkay.
mircea_popescu: i don't know hpa. any item purporting to be hpa's key is fake, and this can not be fixed by hpa or anyone on his behalf through technological means of any sort. ☟︎
Framedragger: don't see a contradiction
Framedragger: hence self-sigs do provide value here; this is not to say that the notion of "subkey" shouldn't be razed from the earth, eventually.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 21:23 mircea_popescu: Framedragger so some clients handle it correctly. this isn't much of an argument that it belongs there.
asciilifeform: if the alternative weren't microshit, nobody would even conceive of buying such a thing.
BingoBoingo: Wait you didn't see that part?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger so some clients handle it correctly. this isn't much of an argument that it belongs there. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but that ain't a 'valid sig'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> less money, shittier work. << Even if more money can't spend because blows cover, then die
mircea_popescu: "i don't personally know her, she's therefore not a woman but meat".
Framedragger: yeah i'm not certain how representative that figure is of whatever, honestly. with all metaphor removed, it literally is "the number of ipv4 hosts which respond to a TCP SYN to port 22 with TCP ACK [packet with ACK flag set]". i'm fairly confident that i haven't missed many hosts of this kind, but too should be replicated and tested.
asciilifeform: point was, in certain cases you don't actually win much by making this wager.
asciilifeform: you can't do this with crc.
mircea_popescu: sort of passive crc. not clear that a) if you want it you shouldn't have it purpose built and b) if it's "just there" it should be necessarily preserved.
mircea_popescu: but, well backuped services don't so much care about this.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean, in cs. i mean, at all. fucking baker's notions of the world.
asciilifeform: did i ever say the pgp format shouldn't burn ?
mircea_popescu: it is the height of ridiculous for you to tell me that "my program is so fucking stupid if it has to handle two items it can only pick one and pretend the other doesn't exist". you understand this ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's basically saying "can't get a proper meal assembled without getting a bacteria in there. if it's clean it's an industrial product nobody wants to eat, if it's made properly, well!". this is true, but also irrelevant, the bacteria are everywhere but they aren't specifically dedicated to a cause through being bacteria. they're not typhus specifically.
asciilifeform: sterling had point tho - can't get 20 people in a room without a stool pigeon
mircea_popescu: check out the inept agitprop bullshit. NOBODY wants to be "a spook", and for most people, including cashiers and waitresses, this move isn't an upgrade.
Framedragger still hasn't read schild's ladder. prolly need accompanying graph theory textbook
mircea_popescu: it ain't the 50s anymore, dorothyform.
mircea_popescu: fucking copywriters a) aren't writers and b) aren't people.
asciilifeform doesn't buy him
mircea_popescu: guy has a solid point. there's nothing new in this world except for hte history you didn't know etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: can't disagree with you there
mircea_popescu: Framedragger there's also nothing wrong with trying to package it for b2b and beat in the marketplace those derps mentioned in the log days ago. i don't personally think there's a market there, but maybe i'm missing a crease. teh republic'd support you in any case.
mircea_popescu: it is kind of a big deal. asciilifeform there must be a standard. this "submit key" thing doesn't work if for instance he's trying to dump 2mn static html pages into a website.
deedbot: [Qntra] Acquihired Changetip Can't Unload Actual Changetip "Business" - http://qntra.net/2016/06/acquihired-changetip-cant-unload-actual-changetip-business/
asciilifeform: most of the folks who aren't here - are still there.
asciilifeform: #b-a ? logged in still, but he ain't there iirc
phf: asciilifeform: you don't hang out there anymore?
mod6: that'll tell me what is in your patches dir, but not necessarily what you actually built. you haven't said yet what you built or how.
mircea_popescu: wget -mpr --domains=guccifer2.wordpress.com,guccifer2.files.wordpress.com https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/ STILL doesn't get the files
mircea_popescu: i just noticed it doesn't grab files. wtf ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: won't work
asciilifeform doesn't see an easy, 'just add water!' clitler cure in there
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i've been delinquent in my obligations, therefore i don't have them"
mircea_popescu: i guess the other point here is that no, the f-whatever ain't ever gonna fly.
ben_vulpes: i ain't even mad anymore, just amused, and pleased at how easily the whole thing should melt apart.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ie, should outrage force them to get off their asses, they don't want to admit they changed course.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part ? "whole the USAF doesn't suspect foul play". fancy this wonder.
ben_vulpes: http://www.jqpublicblog.com/twelve-years-us-air-force-complaints-investigations-disappear-database-crash/ << one needn't even be competent!
mircea_popescu: it doesn't mean whatever random crap google returns. invidious is the opposite of pious : when one who is inferior, instead of worshipping his superior, instead fancies himself his superior's equal.
mircea_popescu: and add "invidious" to the list of terms the web can't define.
BingoBoingo kind of surprised Kohler doesn't to his knowledge make rifles
BingoBoingo: seriously, storing cars in a way that they don't rot and can run when you take them out of storage is a challenge
mircea_popescu: was a thing before where they stole ~200 cars some dude was keeping in storage on his own farm in the deserted inner argentina, because "obviously" they didn't belong to him "really".
mod6: this is a temporary fix, and it's still on the agenda to get this resolved so we don't rely on remotely pulling down deps. stay tuned.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 17:27 mircea_popescu: "She does stink and she should quit. But I don't want it to be because of me. It should be the traditional route; years of rejections and failures till she's spit out the bottom of the porn industry."
asciilifeform: and would have to have about 100x moar moduli in it before it couldn't
mircea_popescu: pity they didn't call it "ethereum"