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mircea_popescu: if i ever meet his grandkids that;s what ima tell them to call him!

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu << lol it tab completes

ben_vulpes: kakobrekla is pope, mircea_popescu is god, cult transformation is complete

kakobrekla: iirc there was a case or two when the payment went to both sies

mircea_popescu: this is the absolute requisite for men to live in a world "as they wish it to be".

mircea_popescu: there is no "same token".

asciilifeform wrote a lisp interpreter as a schoolboy where one could do this

asciilifeform: and by same token when i start up my fortran and assign 4 to 2, the two integers become equal ?

mircea_popescu: not thast it never happened : it is not possible for it to have happened.

mircea_popescu: THAT RESOLUTION is the reality.

asciilifeform: how would trial be conducted ?

asciilifeform: (imagine if a judge and jury could themselves be executed, at ANY future point, if a future judge & jury were to find that the earlier had erred.)

mircea_popescu: the jury found as to the fact.

asciilifeform: but in doing so broke with the pretence that a trial is ~actually~ about finding of physical fact.

mircea_popescu: (it's deeper : that any sort of process is broken if it has to be constantly revised by "emerging" metaphysical considerations. basically he ruled that yes, we do release freeze.)

mircea_popescu: something like that.

asciilifeform: iirc it was a factor in the decision though. that usg would be broken by the expense of being required to offer dnatronics to all death row.

asciilifeform: or hm, no dna in this one ?

asciilifeform: (scalia's, that is)

asciilifeform: his opinion held that he were not.

asciilifeform: which became a thing, and a case concerned whether an already-condemned man were legally entitled to a dnatronic testing

asciilifeform: scalia's verdict concerned 'dna test'

asciilifeform: so there is something like actual custom behind the notion

asciilifeform: when, e.g., the rosenbergs, sizzled, prior to the day of, telephone was installed not only in their cells but in the room containing the chair

mircea_popescu: im not aware of this

asciilifeform: where the prisoner supposedly has a shot at 'proving innocence' all the way until the switch is flipped and the chair sizzles

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a specifically american delusion was the subject of scalia's thing

mircea_popescu: at some point the question moves from "whether this man ought to be punished" to "whether this man will be punished".

mircea_popescu: (for the curious minds reading logs : the reason innocence CAN NOT, in any system, no matter how devised, ever be a bar to punishment is that innocence is a metaphysical concept, whereas punishment is physical. no matter what happens, the former will have to be processed, which is the name for moving across realms. no matters what happens this process will be lossy.)

assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe the man in the uniform to be a bandit, with whom one can come to an understanding. he believes him to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able to, by pressing on the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute' the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need to beat up Monica or toss into her purse heroin or am

asciilifeform: the fiction specifically where it is not hitler but a faceless and indestructible (or at least, 'no reasonable person would try to destroy'...) thing that is doing the lip-cutting

asciilifeform: the scam is not in hitler's ability to 'cut off your lips if he doesn't like your face' but in the ~pretense~ at this strange 'rule of law' fiction ☟︎

asciilifeform: or the one where 'iou' is legal for usg->chump bond repay, but not for chump->usg tax receipt

asciilifeform: but it is also a mechanical thing that 'due processes' you, when likewise suits'em

asciilifeform: all usg vermin like to prattle re: how the law has a 'spirit' and the authors have 'intent' ~when it suits them~

asciilifeform: just not a point that 'rule of law' folks like to think about, at least publicly

assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 20:16:50; asciilifeform: it was, iirc, 'innocence is not a constitutional bar to punishment'

asciilifeform: 'you got due process, now stfu and sizzle in the electric chair' -- scalia ☟︎

mircea_popescu: all scam are exactly the same scam

asciilifeform: all exactly the same scam

asciilifeform: or, more recently, 'this nmr box proves that the accused has seen this knife before'

asciilifeform: 'your fp was on this pistol, step this way sir'

asciilifeform: 'only a terrorist would operate a colour printer without yellow dot watermark, ergo either this page came out of yours, or you are accusing a loyal servant of the crown of terrorism'

asciilifeform: which is why i believe that we are seeing the product of a theatrical voodoo production, rather than mathematical reasoning (however flawed)

asciilifeform: as if one could not rasterize jpeg, 'blender', then rejpegize

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not after it's been put through the blender.

asciilifeform: like soviet typewriter fp. ☟︎

asciilifeform: incidentally 'raw' offers trivial fingerprinting, as it carries sensor defects

asciilifeform: nothing to do with photo

asciilifeform: only if you're a process running on the thing

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can already fingerprint "smart"phones by the grav detector things

mircea_popescu: (as the processing is usally done in gimp on a linux box)

mircea_popescu: seems more likely they want to be able to identify people/cameras , which raw does not allow

asciilifeform: we are seeing the end product of a very particular variety of lysenkotron here

asciilifeform: and the 'distinguish type of camera / detect photoshitting / by jpeg compression artifacts' is a trendy idiocy atm

asciilifeform: i suppose i ought to share the reasoning behind my hypothesis

asciilifeform: faced with perfectly valid accusation of doctored photos (what lizard media mouthpiece hasn't these?) there is, naturally, a ritualistic defence

asciilifeform: it's a totem

mircea_popescu: or is this a tacit admission that they don't have any valuable footage anyway.

mircea_popescu: so if i have footage that's valuable reuters aims not to buy it because of bureaucratic considerations ?

mircea_popescu: i have nfi what that reuters retardation is supposed to be.

asciilifeform: (to punish self, typ. anguish with remorse)

mircea_popescu: it survives in romanian as a flavourful reflexive verb. to belabour oneself.

asciilifeform: incl. the 3rd degree

mircea_popescu: cazna, however, is romanian for... torture.

asciilifeform: one man's treasure is another's ...

mircea_popescu: it's what it means in turkish.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu gotta revisit http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1327881 . wondering now if turk 'hazine', which we have as 'казна' -- 'treasury' -- has any relation to your toilet ☝︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll likely produce one in the morning. Got some scribbles of directions to wake up to.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there could be enough detail here for a qntra piece, if you like.

kakobrekla: reality is shit therefore your pics must be shit as well.

asciilifeform: or, alternatively, no one bought into it, but is a cynical fraud with the public as the mark

asciilifeform: seems like reuters bought into some idiocy where a huckster promised to distinguish one stream of bits, having the correct 'colour' (as in the essay, nothing to do with optics, but politics) from another, identical stream, having undesirable colour. ☟︎

asciilifeform: back to the story,

asciilifeform: jpeg is a lossy compress thing

ben_vulpes: ah, i thought you meant the jpegs were some simple transform from ccd to jpeg

asciilifeform: precisely as described there

ben_vulpes: when you say 'latter' do you mean the raw or the jpeg produced by the camera?

asciilifeform: (so that your flash fills faster, and goads you to buy $next phone)

ben_vulpes: i thought bitwise dumps went out forever ago.

asciilifeform: 'RAW photos do allow for a greater degree of post-processing flexibility, so based on the new policy, it appears that Reuters found that photos processed from RAWs are more likely to distort the truth.' << as if one could not easily produce whatever jpeg is expected

asciilifeform: what can be inferred from BingoBoingo's link is that reuters has bought into some software sc4mz0r's idiocy where there is, presumably, a proggy which claims to distinguish between jpeg that was crapped out by a camera vs one that was downconverted from 'raw'

asciilifeform: goes straight to:

asciilifeform: ok this is lulzy enough to be worth a monologue

asciilifeform: and the pepper is agitated by the drill chuck

asciilifeform: l0l i assumed the cock goes in the right end

shinohai: I have a powered pepper grinder, just not of the drill attachment sort

BingoBoingo: And I thought my drinking was really testing the liver's hitpoints

assbot: Logged on 16-11-2015 04:02:53; mircea_popescu: do they take it with tylenol ?

BingoBoingo: re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-11-2015#1325040 see https://archive.is/XY2Gy "Yeah no orals this go around unless mid cycle bloods are good then I'm gonna throw in some superdrol for super masturbation 😏" ☝︎

mircea_popescu: this is like proposing to make a book for "intelligent people that aren't necessarily literate" cca 1215. orly ?

mircea_popescu: the last time someone could be useful in a professional capacity but not a programmer was perhaps 1935 ?

mircea_popescu: mostly because it had been dead so long it was stinking up the place.

assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 21:26:05; gabriel_laddel: adlai: imagine for a moment that you're writing a program which abstracts over a lab instrument's controls and does a visualization of the information it reads. The requirement is that people who use it will be intelligent, but not necessarily programmers.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1327635 << i think this idea was buried cca 1962. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: romanians took it from turkic, made it be "shittery"

mircea_popescu: and somewhere in the horse, you can hear a distance squeal.

assbot: Logged on 19-11-2015 21:05:11; asciilifeform: 'In smartparens, when you input a pair-able character: the matching pair gets inserted, too, and point is positioned inside the pair:...' << FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2015#1327616 << in this brothel when yo utake off your pants, so does a harlot. ☝︎

asciilifeform: aha the grotesque parallel is deliberate