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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:23:09 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936318 << you can't weld aluminium in air because the melting temperature of the metal is below compound formation energy. basically same reason you can't weld paper.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 20:09:08 mircea_popescu: (you may think she has home equity or w/e, but in practice see the medicare threads, it's on loan)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:30:39 mircea_popescu: that scary moment when one notices the TWO most recent items in trilema comments queue are trackbacks from other people's blogs.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no, not at all; but why would I want *only knights* to be able to talk there?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: even if/when I must introduce it because possibly some disgruntled good for nothings have nothing better to do than to spam
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ah yeah, noody;s proposing you must introduce voice in your own castle.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: re logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-11#1002089 - I still see the point for *different* thresholds in different places; ie 9 is peer everywhere but in #t it's only peers that may speak while in #o it's everyone who didn't get thrown out.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936265 << why the fuck is it mostly young dudes tho.
mircea_popescu: aand diana_coman 's comment yielded a first error fix!
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 20:09:08 mircea_popescu: (you may think she has home equity or w/e, but in practice see the medicare threads, it's on loan)
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:30:39 mircea_popescu: that scary moment when one notices the TWO most recent items in trilema comments queue are trackbacks from other people's blogs.
trinque: would've saved mircea_popescu years of trilema if the ideal state were "and then I think for all of you for the rest of time"
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:57:52 diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 14:52:11 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936160 << verily. Furthermore, the inescapable truth is that one day mircea_popescu will shuffle off this mortal coil. Why anyone would not want to eat as much of his brain while he is around is completely unfathomable to me, especially since he is willingly offering it to eat! The Republic will one day need to stand on its own feet and produce
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 05:10:06 mircea_popescu: also, comparison with iliterate peasant / highwaty robber's bound to break down at SOME fucking point.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:15:00 diana_coman: if you say it's not any and all to talk, the q is : who to talk?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:11:35 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, might still have to make soem kind of two-tiered system, because im not going to either unrate most everyone i have rated now nor let any and all talk. so i guess ima have two keysets ? nfi.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:59:47 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935597 << that's kinda lulzy, seeing how you're the only one who did this iirc ?! no need for the guilt trip though : only children organise their movement through the world by the path of less beatings.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:50:52 mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : hey trinque, now that there's actually multiple functional castles the time's prolly come to update the deedbot voice model into awareness of this situation. so how about a patch making voice in #trilema dependent on ~my~ wot, rather than deedbot's own ; and similarily in any castles that ask for it / you come to an understanding with the lords thereof, so they can use the voice model there if the
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:46:27 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935561 << unlike phf, holding a torch of oneitis for some pantsuit chick that likely couldn't pick him out of a line-up, i should hope the texan has enough fucking sense to actually manage his household as his own.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:41:53 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935554 << it's not like it's fucking arbitrary, might as well ask sums to "moderate themselves", why not, write letter to factorial, "dear factorial, your results are computationalyl challenging, and it is unfair to most numbers above 10 or so that they can never feel safe in being followed up by an exclamation point like their single-digit bretheren. why won't
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:06:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, standard wasn't ~properly~ described. standard was described at fucking all, i don't need to explain the difference between your logger which diana_coman 's running now and phf's alleged logger which, for all anyone knows, consists of one mechanical turk who meanwhile got sad / ran away.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It is http://bingology.net/2019/09/11/uruguay-for-sale-or-keanu-sacks-the-plaza-independencia-grass/ Netflix and Keanu Reeves filming something.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 07:57:52 diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936160 << verily. Furthermore, the inescapable truth is that one day mircea_popescu will shuffle off this mortal coil. Why anyone would not want to eat as much of his brain while he is around is completely unfathomable to me, especially since he is willingly offering it to eat! The Republic will one day need to stand on its own feet and produce
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 05:11:31 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935623 << what, because you don't ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:21:39 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935600 << i however was there at table (twice), and the way it got left off, last i heard, was a vague "of course will definitely dedicate seriously to republic work nao" / "had trouble in the past of various extractions but all better now / financially comfortable" and so on.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:15:34 mircea_popescu: 10 is dead, 9 is peerage, the rest's the rest.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:10:47 mircea_popescu: it's obviously to be done by the master's hand and none other, which is why that entire lisp obscura grilling was so bizarre ; but whatever, growing pains.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:59:47 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935597 << that's kinda lulzy, seeing how you're the only one who did this iirc ?! no need for the guilt trip though : only children organise their movement through the world by the path of less beatings.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:24:17 asciilifeform: it was enheartening tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if took a maffs doctor )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:58:56 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936040 - hey, glad to hear it actually! it was wholesome food (and no maffs-doctor here, fwiw the maffs in it are undergraduate level I'd say, not more).
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:50:52 mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : hey trinque, now that there's actually multiple functional castles the time's prolly come to update the deedbot voice model into awareness of this situation. so how about a patch making voice in #trilema dependent on ~my~ wot, rather than deedbot's own ; and similarily in any castles that ask for it / you come to an understanding with the lords thereof, so they can use the voice model there if the
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 03:03:50 mircea_popescu: it's a dog, though, it has no fucking idea it's walking about looking for that final trigger.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed. And the common folk in this part of the world get put to the screws because they measure inflation primarily against the dollar. "dollar doesn't move"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 06:09:39 mircea_popescu: lobbes, i wasn' taware indigence is a bar to re-entry in the zone (i'm putting this here rather than in a comment for visibility, so moar informed folk can see an' comment)
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/logotron-active-disconnect-vpatch/ << bvt's backtrace -- Logotron: active_disconnect.vpatch
diana_coman: fwiw I always end up scratching my head at this "mircea_popescu won't help" because I haven't seen more people that are more helpful than mircea_popescu ; the only way that "won't help" makes sense to me is if it's fully qualified as in "won't help your stupidity"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-23 05:17:58 mircea_popescu: "Needless to say, I am unamused ; and, to answer the original inquiry in firmer terms containing no ifs or buts : no, I personally have no further interest in hearing what phf may have to say on any topic. The time for "ok then, I will get my logger to spec by X date and hope to have my blog up by Y date" came and went, sometime yesterday.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-02 02:14:00 mp_en_viaje: o look at that, phf logger also quit sometime last night. hey!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-28 19:01:07 mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-24 09:50:27 mp_en_viaje: hey phf, did you disappear ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:20:48 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i wasn't there, at the tea table, so can't say. but fwiw i suspect he thought 'already written off' .
mircea_popescu: and i can see the "hey diana_coman if you dun wanna rate johnny 9 then don't knight'him" ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, you think ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: would a threshold on your rating of the person make more sense?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: in comments at http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/the-mp-wp-bot-job-offer/
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, might still have to make soem kind of two-tiered system, because im not going to either unrate most everyone i have rated now nor let any and all talk. so i guess ima have two keysets ? nfi.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:09:41 mircea_popescu: where the fuck's that lobbes comment re calling girls/sluts/etc ? not on blog not in log wtf, it was lik last week
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 04:06:31 mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : hey trinque, now that there's actually multiple functional castles the time's prolly come to update the deedbot voice model into awareness of this situation. so how about a patch making voice in #trilema dependent on ~my~ wot, rather than deedbot's own ; and similarily in any castles that ask for it / you come to an understanding with the lords thereof, so they can use the voice model there if the
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:19:15 asciilifeform: diana_coman: no, i actually buy your summary, 'd00d wouldn't fucking talk'. but i'm also willing to ask ~why~ didn't talk ? maybe because erry time he opened the door, there was a beating behind it ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 02:24:17 asciilifeform: it was enheartening tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if took a maffs doctor )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 01:39:18 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935529 << there's about zero chances i'll tell someone what to do with things that don't interest me. i mean it's not even fucking possible, altogether, by reason of logical inconsistency : if you're not interested in a toy, how the fuck can you summon the basis upon which to tell others what to do with it ? if you're interested then the same thing upon which t
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 13:17:36 asciilifeform: diana_coman: changed how ? grow extra pair of hands ? a tree-proof arse ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:56:02 asciilifeform: diana_coman: the trigger for the entire episode. was the loss of the logger .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 12:20:12 diana_coman: asciilifeform: that wasn't at all the issue and it has been already pointed out to you several times, here and on trilema.com
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:52:55 diana_coman: asciilifeform: for the other thing, the situation you describe can indeed very well happen and yes, a problem, but the solution can never be "restrain your adverse reaction"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 11:19:51 asciilifeform: diana_coman: let's reformulate. it takes a very long time to produce 1st class people. (as a pedagogue, you know this.) if they burn up faster than they are produced -- this is a problem.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 11:53:01 mircea_popescu: it'll solve all the world's problems regardless : either through zeroing, or else through solving.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:52:19 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935464 - hm, this sounds to me like the fundamental difference causes/purposes all over again; you are looking at what is needed (work done and done well!) and that's your start, so you build backwards, ending up with basically "too needed to fail" sort of thing.
asciilifeform: it was enheartening tho when diana_coman ate ffa 1-19 and commented. apparently it was edible by at least 1 . (even if took a maffs doctor )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when wrote 'm', actually spent many days rewriting the commentary. but today when looking at it, 'who can read this? why?' and sad.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, standard wasn't ~properly~ described. standard was described at fucking all, i don't need to explain the difference between your logger which diana_coman 's running now and phf's alleged logger which, for all anyone knows, consists of one mechanical turk who meanwhile got sad / ran away.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 01:42:47 mircea_popescu: there's http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-03#856336 / http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-03#856338 distinction bearing here : if one's notion of technical acument doesn't include "describing the things", every dog's an engineer nonpareil for having fleas.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-02-07 14:22:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-02-07#1893456 re loc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma have to see when i'm awake, possible oddity
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-14 01:38:41 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935538 << it'd have been very hard to do, also, considering he never published anything.
a111: Logged on 2014-10-03 04:08 mircea_popescu: and i wanted to know if when someone invents something, they have to also say how it's to be made
a111: Logged on 2014-10-03 04:07 mircea_popescu: this is the difference between invention and daydreaming, something my mother explained to me when i was like 6
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:21:49 mircea_popescu: imagine, all this flurry of exciting new development could have been occuring in 2017, if i had the sense to kick phf out on his rear in 2017, rather than let him sit his dumb ass on us for two years.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:44:24 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935455 - fwiw I don't think anyone contested the quality of the technical work done by phf.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-11 09:23:33 diana_coman: there is always (and still available and I'd like to see it taken by phf, yes) the place in other castles; so I suppose, if one must answer the question, the threshold as I see it atm = reaching to ban from *other* castles.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 03:29:14 mircea_popescu: holy shit i had to take out [] style links from my latest trilema draft.
asciilifeform: and ty mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was asking re attempts, rather than success ( consider the greeks' 'success' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did ro ever have a 'lang purification' wankmovement a la greeks, czechs, norwegians ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:37:54 mircea_popescu: dun have to be solved today, we'll live for quite a while as it stands.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: yw. when we crack the url puzzler and import era1 , will also need historic bots in there.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 03:29:14 mircea_popescu: holy shit i had to take out [] style links from my latest trilema draft.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is there a native romanicism that goes with it ? ( as in the 'vrem/timp' pair )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting slavicism there, that horseshoe, potcoava, is really подкова (literally, 'under-smithing')
mircea_popescu: but if you want to do things in the style of print(url, list-of-params) whereby print_url(list-of-params) is called printing the list as an url, you definitely can.
mircea_popescu: re echo '<a href="' . $url . '">' . $description . '</a>'; << nothing keeps you from doing print_url(x y z) if you want to. you'd have to define that function, of course, but this is true in lisp and any other language as well.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 15:13:13 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers! lobbes , diana_coman , et al : reader.py on dulap updated to lobbes's raw-export-fix. vtree page updated w/ lobbes patch and lobbes , asciilifeform , sigs.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 04:38:29 bvt: lobbes: please test the following vpatch: http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch.bvt.sig ; i'll have time for a writeup only on the weekend. this vpatch is only lightly tested so far.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 08:17:35 mircea_popescu: anyways -- when are we looking at delivery ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 08:17:25 mircea_popescu: lobbes, you know, it's technically speaking sold ~to~ lobbes.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 07:55:02 bvt: lobbes: please test the following vpatch: http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch.bvt.sig ; i'll have time for a writeup only on the weekend. this vpatch is only lightly tested so far.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
auctionbot: Buy order # 1057 has ENDED: item as described in http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934605 and following. SOLD by lobbes for 100mn ecu. Attn: mircea_popescu
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 05:42:11 mircea_popescu: spyked, you know what, re img pastebin ? i think im just going to revive ye ancient dtng service
bvt: lobbes: please test the following vpatch: http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch http://bvt-trace.net/vpatches/active_disconnect.kv.vpatch.bvt.sig ; i'll have time for a writeup only on the weekend. this vpatch is only lightly tested so far.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: as in: had nothing to read before breakfast! at all, eleventy11!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: :p
asciilifeform: diana_coman: tested, a++ worx
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-12 15:43:45 asciilifeform: diana_coman: compare w/fix vs. your current to see the diff.
lobbes: ty asciilifeform for testin' and signin'. (and ty diana_coman for helping me test earlier)
diana_coman: lobbes: I'm getting a 503 on http://lobbesblog.com/src/logotron/raw_line_fix.kv.vpatch ?