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asciilifeform: how am i to know what this was ?
asciilifeform: douchebag: lemme know if you run into problems. also see my www, i posted a recipe for how to make the same box at home, to test on.
BingoBoingo: Those are the little green ones. I am going to see.
asciilifeform: i didn't notice any 'proper' parrot in BingoBoingostan. only the little green argentine type.
BingoBoingo: But if they are Loros that would explain why I occasionally hear "Todo bien" coming from los arboles
BingoBoingo: After I put in some effort trying to teach them to say nigger
BingoBoingo: Also, the green birds from http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/25/remedial-skills-camera-walk-rtfm-edition/ La Peruana insists are Loros, but I am calling bullshit on her because Loros talk.
BingoBoingo: Balked when I did napkin math with him
BingoBoingo: He was not the fellow who earlier inquired on what sort of shared hosting prices I could offer that might sway him from the under 3 USD a month contract he entered into "Hostgator". That was a Redhat JVM developer.
BingoBoingo: In other lulz this week, a born and breed Uruguayo approached me this week asking advice on doing business with Norte Americanos this week. He was completely confounded that Gringos del Norte do not want to wait until after 3-4 skype "meetings" before making a decision. I explained I am in LATAM for reasons, but it would be to his advantage to streamline his shit so he is ready to sell it when the customer is ready to buy
mircea_popescu: i've yet to see one of those cgi wonders. but it's pretty obvious when they switch, like say in grande belezza, when those flamingos show up, the sky is supposed to bhe like whatever, sky-of-rapture i guess
BingoBoingo: The theater was filled with young Uruguayos who *clapped* when their favorites appeared on screen. (I have since been told clapping because things happen in movies is normal here) Thusly I clapped when their favorites died at the hands of my favorite.
mircea_popescu: i guess so huh.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the nonsense does have some batshit internal logic.
trinque: whether the thing has a "bite your dick off" switch, or bites your dick off by default, either way discussing degree of idiocy, I fully agree.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I mean the shell command, only way I can conceive ^ happening if it is indeed using the shell
trinque: (run-program "/bin/dd" '("if=/dev/zero")) << I see nothing but sbcl with dd for child
trinque: I don't see an extra shell in there, unless they hand-off via "exec"
trinque: that is not what I said, at all.
jurov: trinque: i dun parse
lobbes: I thought he meant to cut out the shell middleman entirely and just directly call execve()?
mircea_popescu: i dont' get it, lisp shellout to execve ?
jurov: i mean, execve does not mutilate any parameters passed to it
asciilifeform: jurov: i can't resist to ask -- how's that, and vs what
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 13:00 trinque: I dunno why anyone would write a blog post proposing "shell out" and then omit the proper handling of inputs as out of article scope
BingoBoingo: I'm used to seeing It spelled in my head as Trump, thusly fixed
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 14:36 phf: spyked: what i'm saying is that you can avoid the injection without even introducing any new elements, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gYkxc/
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 13:34 spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 13:20 spyked: anyway, thanks for the escape-shell-token tip trinque, I'm looking into it and will update the post.
lobbes: I've found myself squirreling away these paradropped ru-isms >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805802 ☝︎
lobbes: Neato spyked. I'm sure I'll be putting your guide to practical use once it comes time to implement the self-voicing bit of the eventual tickerbot I'm building ☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805897 <-- updated. http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/071-cl-gpg.html#selection-1035.0-1037.1 (crap this is even longer now; I need to be more succint) ☝︎
spyked: neat phf, I had no idea that was possible. I was going to add some assert/check-type calls anyway though.
phf: spyked: what i'm saying is that you can avoid the injection without even introducing any new elements, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gYkxc/ ☟︎
spyked: anyway, I've learned a few useful things today and I'm adding them as (hopefully brief!) updates :D
spyked: I understand that, I even put an example of command injection in the post. I thought there was some other reason.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 13:34 spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805906 << asdf3 is pretty much standard in all the lisps right now, you have to go out of the way to downgrade. at the very least avoid implicit uiop dependency and declare it in your asdf file (this is by the way even fare's recommendation, but people ignore it "oh i have asdf3, means i can just throw a sneak uiop:foo all over my code) ☝︎
mod6: Right on, I'm just reading your post here. :]
spyked: good to know, I'll add an example using sbcl's run-program. iirc drakma (or one of the libraries it depends on) forced me to update to asdf3 because of uiop dependency, when getting cl-feed-parser to run. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 15:08 phf: i think asdf is evil, version 3 is doing some straight up systemd shit. for those who don't know asdf 3 comes with fare's own portability layer called uiop, which in a very systemd agressive and underhanded style is superseding existing utility libraries.
spyked: anyway, thanks for the escape-shell-token tip trinque, I'm looking into it and will update the post. ☟︎
spyked: only one reason: brevity. had I solved this, then I would also have to solve "GPG error codes" and all the other problems that GPGME solves. the point was to avoid this complexity altogether for what I'm doing.
trinque: I dunno why anyone would write a blog post proposing "shell out" and then omit the proper handling of inputs as out of article scope ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i once took one apart in straight alcohol
mod6: Thing landed in the snow, and I quickly used a hockey stick to shove it into a contractor bag. Nothing flew out -- but they say that the larve somehow survive the cold up here.
mod6: i dont have pics, which i totally regret not taking, but this past february I found a giant (think, basketball size) paperwasp nest in one of my huge Silver Maple trees. Had it cut down. That thing looked like it was gonna have a mega-count of the bastards.
mod6: oh boy, i found out indeed.
mircea_popescu: pretty great header i thought.
mod6: mircea_popescu's thorn/winged-paratrooper boob stinging story; reminds me of a time I was cutting down a tree and a wasps nest was in there - it was hot out and I had my shirt off. the fuckers flew down my pants, stung me in the ass like a hundred times.
hanbot: pretty much. header and footer are off by one pixel but i'm saving that fix for next time i feel all ocd. i'm very happy with the hosting!
asciilifeform: perhaps moar interestingly, also of stroke victims who genuinely think 'i can move that arm, just haven't been feeling like it'
mod6: <+phf> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805820 << https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6hkNuykz2RE/maxresdefault.jpg << lol, i had the same thing in mind. ☝︎
hanbot: i think it and heathrow are my least favorite.
hanbot: oh, fun. i'll investigate, meanwhile it should read properly on the index
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805820 << https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6hkNuykz2RE/maxresdefault.jpg ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: ha. i expected the usual goatee transsexual thing.
asciilifeform: the lolturd at the heart of the lj piece, 'This is pure unadulterated slander. Lima is not in any way tainted. It is freshly written MIT code and I was never exposed to original ARM code. This statement is an outrageous lie, and it is amazing that anyone in the open source world would lie like that and expect to get away with it.' << somehow does not occur to the author, that he has a problem , if the 'colour of the bits' is permitte
mircea_popescu: or w/e, "let's see how far i can push nonsense before daddy finally loves me enough to say something"
mircea_popescu: exactly like i don't for a second btcvixen or w/e it was doesn't know he's just a sad dork with a self-mutilated penis.
mircea_popescu: i do not even for a second believe they don't know better.
asciilifeform: ('to spite the conductor! i'll buy a ticket and.. WALK!11')
mircea_popescu: everyone else has the ready excuse : i'm with usg because who else would give a straw hat for the asshole of a barely literate black woman ? ~condolezza rice.
mircea_popescu: i honestly enjoy watching "good men" in the sense of dedicatedly evil but biologically promising intellects like this fucktard, the murdock dork and so on getting fucked.
asciilifeform: ( it was the root wank behind the others, i did not link to it because it is deeply opaque other than to dedicated entomologist )
mircea_popescu: , by using more of my work against me... And in the latter case i give people like Jasper and companies like Endless Mobile what they want, in spite of their contemptible actions and statements. Logically, there is only one conclusion possible in that constellation."
mircea_popescu: "Now I have a choice. I can wait until i am in the mood to clean up this code and produce something useful for public consumption, and in the meantime see my name and my work slandered. Or... If i throw my (nasty) code over the wall, someone will rename/rewrite it, mess up a lot of things, and trash me for not having done corner X or Y, so essentially slander me and my work and probably even erase my achievements from history
mircea_popescu: because totally, that's what i'm competing with. it's not the case that per-hour imperial pay for computer work is under a cent.
mircea_popescu: "From March 2011 on, I have spent an insane amount of time on this. Codethink paid, all-in-all, 6 weeks of my time when i was between customer projects." << and then come here asking for TWENTy MILLIONS
mircea_popescu: amusingly, dumbass forgot to start by saying "as mp told me would happen in http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ i was unable..."
mircea_popescu: i do.
asciilifeform: how's it a lie ? i measured it, it dun write.
mircea_popescu: your problem isn't "postregs 10.0". your problem is exactly what i told you yest -- you want support for your recursion exposed by a fucking declarative lang. wtf.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? your car ALSO doesn't expose injector timings to you. i don't care you think you'd do a better job by hand. the direction's been away froim the fucking clutch, even. i personally own a car running tiptonic gearbox and girl who's an excellent stick driver, and she STILL prefers the autoclutch. because the machine does it way the fuck better, what.
asciilifeform: ( not as if i have one in my pocket! but seems as if mircea_popescu disagrees that it could be made, in principle ?? )
mircea_popescu: yeah, and this tower of pancake would have broken and i wouldn't use it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i doubt i'd use this item for anything.
phf: i suspect a lot of these obvious derivations are well known too, but there's like 5 people who know enough postgresql internals to implement them.
phf: i suspect that's it's my favorite SAT, mapping declarative problems to an optimal imperative solution is NP, but nobody approaches it that way anyway, instead it's heuristics which have specific failure modes on case by case basis. ascii can see see the "obvious" derivation of optimal imperative solution from declarative code, but postgresql's compiler can't
a111: Logged on 2018-04-25 15:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-25#1805475 << lol somehow nobody but me noticed the bug. i fixed it this morning, all that remains is to clean the crapola from the db, will do this after backup
mircea_popescu: but i'm guessing "first principles" means different things depending on who's wielding it ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805702 << i'm surprised that mircea_popescu did not go straight to 'increment a counter when they're found!' ☝︎
asciilifeform: i.e. 'for which moduli, are there known factors'
mircea_popescu: i can't see how this could possibly work ?! so you made a special, "this is where we copy cracked moduli" table, and inserted into it, and this slowed your querties on your main table ?
mircea_popescu: well, i imagine eg the cracked moduli get sent to a table of their own.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry. autoINCREMENT.
asciilifeform: ( i burned considerable time on this and related questions prior to the outage also, to similarly disappointing result )
asciilifeform: btw interestingly enuff, last night i upped the working memory for postgres to 64GB (from 128MB default), and the per-connection buffer to 2GB (from 2MB default) , and this resulted in 0 measurable change in performance.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 19:34 asciilifeform: Framedragger: i am increasingly finding that 'general purpose db' is, like the infamous 'vise-grip', The Wrong Tool For Every Job
asciilifeform: granted, i know from whence this came, it is from db system trying to be 'all things to all people'
mircea_popescu: i do not think so.
asciilifeform: familiar, and i dispute the relevance.
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't agree "wild west ie wisconsin in 1860" is "braindamaged". notwithstanding the sheer lack of convenience stores.
asciilifeform: if i calculate the actual algorithmic cost from first principles and it is asymptotically less than what postgres gives -- postgres is braindamaged, and there is no court of appeal
mod6: I kinda like trying to performance tune databases a bit... just as long as I don't have to "own" the db.
mircea_popescu: i think the problem is rather that people try to do it as work for hire. which works well enough for "flash programmers" and php copy-pasters and i guess "web designers".
mircea_popescu: mod6, amusingly, dba is one of the few it fields i'm somewhat familiar with. never wanted to kill self.
mod6: No, Thank You for playing. I'll go make screwdriver handles instead.
mod6: It can be especially bad when you inherit a wing-ding pile of garbage (i.e. no constraints, the usual nonsense) that also happens to be a sacred cow.
mod6: That's one role that I've never wanted to have. I've watched these people wanna kill themselves for 20 years.