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pete_dushenski: or at least
the poor slavic farmers
their great-grandparents were back in
the old country.
pete_dushenski: anyways, looks like
the canadians, like americans, are en route
to becoming
the africans
they've so long wished
to join.
pete_dushenski: even without
the internet, you'd figure
that
there would still be huge swathes of
the population (those with brains, pen, and paper)
that can figure out
that "10% inflation" shouldn't yield a doubling in food prices every 3 years, as we've essentially seen in
the last 3 years with only a reported inflation of "under 2%"
pete_dushenski: i'd be curious
to know (and so will endeavour
to find out) if
there were as many people calling "bullshit" in
the late 70s and early 80s when reported inflation was ~10% and loan rates for cars and houses were 20-25%
pete_dushenski: though
the number of people who rightly call out
the cpi scam is worthy of some mention.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Works in progress
tend
to stay in
the logs and occasionally get buried
there
pete_dushenski: besides, is not
trb news
the dominion of mod6 'state of bitcoin addresses' or qntra ? i can certainly qntra, but i guess i'm not equipped
to appreciate
the significance of glibc-less-netbsd
☟︎ pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu: but what if i
took being excommunicated as a badge of merit and distinction ? please,
tell me what i have
to do
to 'go spinoza' or 'go galileo' ;)
☟︎ trinque: were
there bills
they read?
pete_dushenski: Nassim Nicholas
Taleb: ""We're not all famous authors".
This is a
type of smart ass easy comment only a bitter loser makes. In addition, it has a logical fallacy. Did it hit you
that I have only been a "famous author" part of my life? Did it also hit you
that it also applies
to employment in general?"
☟︎ pete_dushenski: Nassim Nicholas
Taleb: "Another piece of advice. Use an office only when it is strictly necessary. An office dulls
the mind, invites cosmetic and circular work, and allows metastatic projects
to
take over."
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Sure, just never paid attention or just never run into
this benchmark used
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:50:22; mircea_popescu:
THEN when
that boring shit goes nowhere, he convinces some misfortunate borderlines
to... go live in
thailand! because
totally, shit'll make sense
there.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 04:33:15; punkman: "But I'm game. Give me a problem with 1,000,000 lines of C. But don't expect me
to read
the C, I couldn't. And don't
think I'll have
to write 10,000 lines of Forth. Just give me
the specs of
the problem, and documentation of
the interface."
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:39:32; ben_vulpes: i don't see a macri coming by
to devalue
the webstack
though. have been struggling
to cook up
the scenario wherein
the world's managers declare
technological bankruptcy and completely failing.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:27:34; mircea_popescu: nobody cares
to look at
the root causes. "hey derps ? you're being as inefficient as humanly possible" "well of course, any other course would be an economic disaster" "your idea of economy is like a rat's idea of hygiene :
the more sewers
the better" "so ?"
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:06:59; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pressing of cd was perhaps
the ONE good idea in openbsd <<< certainly not a bad one.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:03:55; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> incidentally
the de-glibc-ized
trb WILL run on netbsd now! << o hey!
punkman: "But I'm game. Give me a problem with 1,000,000 lines of C. But don't expect me
to read
the C, I couldn't. And don't
think I'll have
to write 10,000 lines of Forth. Just give me
the specs of
the problem, and documentation of
the interface."
☟︎ punkman: I mean
they have
the 50core xeons
punkman: no server worthy AMDs in
there?
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 15:44:18; mircea_popescu: by
this reasoning food is "motly shit already" anyway.
liquidassets: date=18-12-2015#1346518 << Maybe why I walk around with
this shit eating grin all
the
time..
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 23:34:54; mircea_popescu: and if you want actual numbers, i just got a coupla girlies an apt.
the sale value would have been i guess 160-170k or so.
the monthly rent is 750.
the first month,
the washing machine went, and
the owner replaced it.
the next month, ac went (brother was
that an incredible pos job wow), owner replaced it. so far owner's been making 0 from his property.
mircea_popescu: any place where your fiance (that's only had sex with like... 2 guys before you, and you're
the best, and her father paid for her college) doesn't want
to go but
the stripper you met yesterday does.
mircea_popescu: gabrielradio any place
that currently has currency controls in place is a good bet ; any place where rents are below cover value (romania - perhaps with
the exception of bucharest - is a fine example here). any country with a weak central government (the ones with a strong central government don't have a middle class by definition). on it goes.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 23:39:51; mircea_popescu: for
this reason.
the fundamental incentive
to living anywhere is whether you can stick it
to
the middle class
through
this mechanism or not. if you can't,
they can stew in
their own juices and play mahjong or whatever
the fuck
they play, bingo.
mircea_popescu: how's he not better, how's he different from every afrigan goat ex-herder (the flood/drought/global warming/xenu killed
the goats)
that's now a garbage
trawler ?
mircea_popescu: well he moves on
to medium, and keeps at it. one of
these days, if he wishes it hard enough, someone somewhere is going
to
trade actual bowls of soup and actual bong hits and so forth for some shit he found on a hard drive in
the garbage dump.
mircea_popescu: shit doesn't make sense
there, chiefly because wtf, it's still a pointless perl script nobody cares about. so he...
mircea_popescu: THEN when
that boring shit goes nowhere, he convinces some misfortunate borderlines
to... go live in
thailand! because
totally, shit'll make sense
there.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so 1st, he's going
to "sell"
the genius "service" of literally a half hour's worth of perling around. and goes
through all
the motion as if
this nonsense were genuinely a business, and had anything
to do with money, employment,
the works.
mircea_popescu: about as sterile as it gets, except for
the part where it drives
the emotions of
the mob into max gear.
mircea_popescu: so, on its own
terms, in its own
time, it just sinks further into
this shitpit.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough,
this isn't
the first pass of
this nonsense. bill gates built microsoft out of
the exactly same idiocy.
mircea_popescu: the way
this shitshow worked is
that every single fucking derp running
the "changing
the world" pseudo-entrepreneurial circuit is
trying
to encapsulate a short perl program into "a website" and
then "sell it"
to "a market". because fuck me, seriously,
there's now "a market" for five awk calls. every single fucking "service" and "idea" and "product" and bullshit out
there looking for "investment" is really a glorified p
ben_vulpes looks forward
to mp's contract for
the death of modern web
tech
mircea_popescu: at some point and on some level
the nude reality of "this guy wants you dead. no, he doesn't
think you did a great
thing. he doesn't even
think you're 'not worth hiring' or even worth zero. he
thinks you're so far under 0 it can't be put in other words". and "aaaah, he's crazy" only goes so far.
mircea_popescu: exactly in
the same way "development" is similar
to "argentina"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
that scenario is very similar
to mp going "i'm paying 1 btc for wuille's death cert".
ben_vulpes: i don't see a macri coming by
to devalue
the webstack
though. have been struggling
to cook up
the scenario wherein
the world's managers declare
technological bankruptcy and completely failing.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: the mess of complexity in development (not just 'web', chil'ren) is very very similar
to
the argentine problem of everyone believing
their flats are worth all
that us paper.
mircea_popescu: "It is in a programmer's best interest
to exaggerate
the complexity of his program."
mircea_popescu: nobody cares
to look at
the root causes. "hey derps ? you're being as inefficient as humanly possible" "well of course, any other course would be an economic disaster" "your idea of economy is like a rat's idea of hygiene :
the more sewers
the better" "so ?"
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: meanwhile a whole lot of "global warming" snake oilmanship and heaps upon heaps of idle handwringing about various restatements of
the "ecology" problem.
mircea_popescu: heh. he's right
there. it would be an pseudo-economic disaster, in
the sense "economic" has come
to carry in
the world of "we just wanted
to" and "we have come
to expect".
mircea_popescu: "Sadly,
that is not an undesirable result. Bloated code does not just keep programmers employed, but managers and whole companies, internationally. Compact code would be an economic disaster. Because of its savings in
team size, development
time, storage requirements and maintainance cost."
mircea_popescu: <jurov> so maybe we end up with malloc library,
too... at least
till mempool is completely redone <<< ahahahaha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pressing of cd was perhaps
the ONE good idea in openbsd <<< certainly not a bad one.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> how
to bridge
the gap between 'v means i read and agree' vs. 'we need
the source for
these deps in
the v-tree'? <<< " I signed
this because we need
the source for
this shit. I didn't read it, I don't need
to read it
to
tell you it's shit."
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell pete_dushenski yo start communicatin' before you get excommunicated!
mircea_popescu: you know we really need a lot better communication for
these
things.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> incidentally
the de-glibc-ized
trb WILL run on netbsd now! << o hey!
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 20-12-2015 21:51:41; mod6: but
then alf said it's not ``'V'ifiable'' or something of
the kind.
mircea_popescu: what, we only 0.01% of
the engineers we need, why not make it 0.00001% ?
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> only question in my mind is if we stick linus' kernel in
there
too. <<< eventually ;/
mircea_popescu: in other news,
the oh in ohio is a pretty decent movie.
ben_vulpes: legend has it
that he reprogrammed hung satellites on
the fly with forth
adlai: "As an infix language, it encourages nested parentheses. Sometimes
to a ludicrous extent.
They must be counted and balanced." << some maintain
that even prefix notation has
this effect...
jurov: "but hey,
this isn't C, but C++". *meltdown*
jurov: "But don't expect me
to read
the C, I couldn't."
jurov: i can
think of one :D
jurov: so maybe we end up with malloc library,
too... at least
till mempool is completely redone
jurov: btw, i'm
testing unchanged same code as i posted with jemalloc and zapmempool does shrink RSS by 50MB
ben_vulpes: yeah i didn't hear anything from asciilifeform
to
the contrary
mod6: Alright, good
talk.
mod6: so just
those
three
then? and
the rest are outside
the scope
then.