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lobbes: mircea_popescu, oh nice tip! I'll have to check for it..
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6 : if lobbes is interested in selling on commission, i would like him to begin asap , with your approval << Sounds good to me, gotta work out the details, etc, but hey, yeah, whatever we can do to push into heathondom
lobbes: i.e. not yet figured out trb, because I've been working on mp-wp migration
lobbes: well, the tail end of the log (I neglected to log the output of 'screen')
lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true ☟︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i like mircea_popescu's optimism and good spirit << Same, thanks for your advise and insights, Sir.
ben_vulpes: oh dear i am going to need a vastly better system for debiting unearned income.
mircea_popescu: these mega fucking logs of late... i dunno how the lurkers do it.
mircea_popescu: i like how there's practically no snark here ever at all.
fromdeedbot: so how do i register it with deedbot
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-04 16:05 mircea_popescu: anyway, /me will expose the hand, might as well be upfront about things. so, asciilifeform did at some point express some interest in learning the magical crafts of management ; i since fed him the occasional dollop, in the manner this craft was always taught whenever it was taught. as part of this, when he left for montevideo i specifically told him to recognize BingoBoingo 's efforts
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-4#349507 << i too would like some of these dollops, should one slide from your spoon
fromdeedbot: i have an rsa key now
fromdeedbot: my bad i thought i did
ben_vulpes: fully-rented 4u of this would bring us to breakeven at $50/mo, but demands 100% occupancy, otoh that's only 25% of 16U rockchip plant occupancy. so, i don't see a really compelling case for bringing the price down much further.
danielpbarron: i just gave a shoutout to pizarro on l0de
trinque: and the other idea I had was sending danielpbarron back into l0de radio hour with an ad
fromdeedbot: i'm hoping that this system will be streamlined a bit
fromdeedbot: i really like the concept of web based on accountability and credibility
fromdeedbot: i looked i need to download software
fromdeedbot: ty i ahve been reading them off and on for a few months
ben_vulpes: lol i signaled !!update
ben_vulpes: after we can afford more bw, i hazard
asciilifeform: ( exactly when, i do not know )
asciilifeform: y'know what i mean.
ben_vulpes: heh i actually have this usb thinger sitting unused i got as a wedding present forever and a day ago
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i unfortunately cannot comment on shitcoin-related uses
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: huh i was laboring under the impression that it had unforgivably bad io or something
ben_vulpes: not because i want to pack trbs in but because it is *the* litmus test of compute: "will it bitcoinate?"
asciilifeform: i'm also on the lookout for even smaller arm boards ( found 1 , but the specs do not stand up to bang-per-buck comparison with RC )
ben_vulpes: what it costs to bolt the chassis together i mean
asciilifeform: shouldn't take 4evah to assemble tho. 1 weekend, i picture, per.
asciilifeform: forget time, i dun get paid for time.
ben_vulpes: yeah i know the costs for sticks and rockchippen; i wanna know chassis, your time, stuff like cabling
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i can give a floor. a rc is about 100bux, with the usbstick. chassis, let's say 400. beefy 5v ps : 200. cabling, negligible, but for pessimism say 100.
ben_vulpes: this is the "when do you start trading?" thread all over again; i'm going to have to review both in depth i think i'm thick as it didn't stick the first time.
ben_vulpes: i completely agree.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: sorry, i do not follow
quadsar: i was watching l0de radio for the first time i dont really belong here
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-17 14:23 ascii_lander: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-4-17#336946 << ben_vulpes, imho this is starvation-level lowball. your figures do not factor in the cost of ~building out~ the plant, i.e. building new rockchiptrons.
ben_vulpes: i have seen this, and it was a mistake to not follow suit.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-4#350177 << well i checked it twice, changed something and then failed to check it again is what happened. so, must rework and restate.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-4#350180 << aah, this makes sense. a liability, effectively. so i'll hafta rework this whole thing.
lobbes: Anyways, I'ma bbl
lobbes: Tickerbot will also live there, once it is built. But it is great. I was up and running in no time! I dare anyone to find individualized customer on the level of Pizarro. Try it yourself and you will see immediately what I mean. They offer month-to-month if you just want to try, with discounts for quarterly payments once you feel comfortable << see? sales pitch
lobbes: Hey, I'm a customer myself!
lobbes: Anyways, I guess I'm saying I wouldn't mind trying to sell a product I actually -believe is good-
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not trying to discourage you here.
lobbes: "Ask this old lady if she wants a credit card!!" "Ugh.. I'm sure she does not need any moar credit"
lobbes: So I quit; went back to (then) stacking fruit at supermarket
lobbes: I was told I was "good at selling myself, so I should do the same for their "products"". Difference was I thought all their 'products' were useless and not needed (this was a retail bank teller job)
lobbes: I've had jobs where I had sales quotas way back when, but.. I hated lying
lobbes: I would definitely be interested >> (+asciilifeform) ben_vulpes, mod6 : if lobbes is interested in selling on commission, i would like him to begin asap , with your approval
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly i'd start planning for the next trip. understand the simple fact of the matter : if you manage to get pizarro 300 rockchips racked, you've produced at least a coupla bitcoin's value for it.
asciilifeform: meanwhile i will begin preparation for full scale rockchip plant.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6 : if lobbes is interested in selling on commission, i would like him to begin asap , with your approval
lobbes: I don't know sales, but I know heathens; I wager those rockchips will be a way easier sell than the shared hosting, for e.g.
asciilifeform: i spammed a buncha academitards, with the predictable silence as the output
asciilifeform: it quite easily could. esp. if i can get a hold of aluminum chassis.
asciilifeform: i.e. same mass as s.mg server. but the mounts, power supplies, internal gb ethernet switches, would have to also come.
asciilifeform: ( i had to put on a quite vigorous juggling show just to get my 6 unmolested in )
mircea_popescu: what's a rockchip actually cost i forget ? like 30 bux + the ssd ?
asciilifeform: the heaviest question hanging so far , i think, is the heathen question
asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's optimism and good spirit
mircea_popescu: if i were you folk i would very seriously be looking at geting refinanced, taking ~300 rockchips there and filling a dozen us with them. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i am looking for the exact cost
asciilifeform: which i drew as separate param
asciilifeform: well sounds ok until realize that we gotta make a qualitative breakthrough somehow in heathendom; i suspect that l1 is tapped out
asciilifeform: i gotta fix this
asciilifeform: because i left out 1u rental fees
asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure my figure is slightly moar pessimistic than the reality
asciilifeform: again i will let ben_vulpes confirm the accuracy of my count.
asciilifeform: i mean, total # of colo subscribers existing presently
asciilifeform: i counted 4 colo people in ben_vulpes first table
asciilifeform: prolly i made a numeric mistake somewhere, will let ben_vulpes confirm
mircea_popescu: o i c.
asciilifeform: ( and yes i converted FG price to usd, to match the units of the other params )
ben_vulpes: i gotta step away for a spell but will come back and address
mircea_popescu: ah, the rest because you booked some yearly contracts, i see, i see.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, more shockingly, can you explain how the hell you folks posted a 0.55620116 ebidta gain this period ? i mean i get it, sold .4 worth of equity ; but the rest ?!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, it's also terrible practice that i read "tooling" and then "zip ties" and "llave". srsly now, put them all in tooling and ((enum)) if need be.
mircea_popescu: the valance sheet << i like this.
asciilifeform: or do i gotta recompute from the available #s
asciilifeform: i am making a wwwistic calculator thing, ben_vulpes ; do you have the price table (usd) and current # of subscribers for each type, handy ?
mod6: lol, overall, a push I suppose.
mod6: Oh, on the good side today! I went to that .ua place again for a fantastic ruben... and bought some of their sweet italian sausages, and smoked cheddarworst.
ben_vulpes: heh you know precisely what i'm actually bitching about
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Sorry about the join/parts. I will put a bouncer on the punch list. Moved the terminal to do some relaxed balcony computing only to discover this weekend's crowd is a bunch of non-verbal retards here for some sort of convention.
asciilifeform: ok then i dun get it : from the equation it would seem that the , e.g., 36 colo, means 'if nothing else existed, 36 colos would be needed, at current price, to add up to $burn'
ben_vulpes: could i possibly induce you to set up a bouncer on the shared machine so i can tabcomplete your name after you close your laptop?
BingoBoingo: ^ ben_vulpes mod6 asciilifeform I have proposed a start for negotiations on a compensation package through February 2019 for your consideration here: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/#fn1-1909 ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-08 16:14 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667112 << i'd like to be rid of the floating point
phf: i don't know what they did in sbcl that it gives 8.75863727 locally, but with double float cmucl gives 8.758457270000001 and with double-double-float it's 8.75845727w0
ben_vulpes: aight, so i'm an uncivilized turd.
mircea_popescu: i can do his one better : select '9.15831827' - '0.399861' produces "8.758457270000001".
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i suspect that sbcl uses 'iron' (ieee) floats by default, rather than rational arithmetic, and therefore produces garbage
ben_vulpes: fancy spreadsheet, i mean
asciilifeform: and i even suspect the reason
mircea_popescu: i get 8.75845727 amusingly enough. echo "9.15831827-0.399861" | bc
ben_vulpes: genuinely thought that i had forgotten my kindergarten subtraction algorithms for a moment