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mircea_popescu: aanyways ; i agree with trinque in that the "history file" needs not be considered by the v implementation as anything in particular. it's a usage convention not a special case.

trinque: aha, I haven't a clue how he got to "thus can merge"

a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 23:13 esthlos: if the new V defines the current state of the project as a single hash, then multiple parents (such as h, i, d, and j) becomes impossible

mircea_popescu: i confess i don't understand what he understood of v. this for instance fails to parse entirely : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810623 ☝︎

trinque: if I tell the thing to press to a signed patch, it should press, history file edited or not.

trinque: esthlos: if I thought you'd gone that far afield, I would've asked you to do all this instead of a simple cleanup of interfaces

esthlos: alright. What I don't understand, then, is mircea_popescu's response ☟︎

esthlos: oh, I thought the new idea was to determine parenthood based off a single line in the philosophy file. this was my interpretation of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774751 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774760 ☝︎☝︎

esthlos: if the new V defines the current state of the project as a single hash, then multiple parents (such as h, i, d, and j) becomes impossible ☟︎

esthlos: I think I understand, though I may be being thick. what I'm describing is differnt

trinque: if I haven't addressed what you're talking about though, please elaborate.

trinque: in current V, j had to *edit* items in both h and i to keep them in the set of pressed patches, if pressing to h

esthlos: so I'm not talking about pressing all the leaves, but when a vpatch has multiple parents, such as h or i in http://www.mod6.net/sps2_dag.png

esthlos: so is this what's desired, or am I off the mark?

esthlos: now let's say that the new philosophy file contains hash of all directory contents in lexographic order, onse per patch. As far as i can see, this forces the tree of vpatches to be strictly linear, since latest patch depends strictly on single previous patch

jurov: asciilifeform: use the tarball as-is, i have not scanned more since

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810463 << in other shit you won't believe : girl cleanned out her purse, as it was getting heavy. produced as a result a satchel of coins, which she shows me, "check this shit out". "whoa, that's like... almost a kg. go weigh it, i'm curious." so she goes weigh it, and the scale says... 877! ☝︎

trinque: well, "what did I have in tmux" etc

a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 15:58 mircea_popescu: i basically hope we keep losing it. seems the more indermeddling, the stronger the republic.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810461 << this has been my experience also. deedbot was more reliable each time I had to rip the thing out of one host, move to other, for obvious reasons of having to look under the log. ☝︎

asciilifeform: trinque: fwiw i dun expect any moar 1000-modulus bursts in foreseeable fyootoor

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i meant yubi co, by producer, not whatever random chinese plant spitting these out and making the only money for the only actual economic activity involved.

mircea_popescu: i suppose next someone cracks open one of these fetlifes, can dump the yubikey set this way. tho... very roundabout way of ghoing about things -- could as well just list the privkeys.

asciilifeform: right, but where were they generated/how, i do not recall

asciilifeform: ... supposing these are ssh keys. i currently can't seem to recall what these are. lessee when jurov wakes up.

asciilifeform: incidentally, there's another yet-virginal but i suspect quite fertile field for phuctor : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-17#1725945 incident ☝︎

asciilifeform: these, from 16010944 submissions ( i.e. gpg keys ) of which 12284842 were Framedragger-generated.

BingoBoingo: I mean what else are those phree boxes there for

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i predict 0 . ( will be pleasantly surprised, perhaps.. )

asciilifeform: ( and hey jurov, is it time for refresh ? or should i use the 2016 tarball as-is )

asciilifeform: i'd predict, but i do not recall how he obtained these.

asciilifeform: ^ d00d with large collection of debian-style 'famous p's and q's', even once showed up here and asked to get phuctor's, and he did, but somehow his collection includes ~whole keys~ rather than factors. soon i'ma feed in ~his~ collection. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 13:05 asciilifeform: there are 1.7mil+ moduli in the queue right now; if i fire the werker i expect that it will produce 8-900+ popped-moduli.

mircea_popescu: i basically hope we keep losing it. seems the more indermeddling, the stronger the republic. ☟︎

asciilifeform: good q tho. i was waiting for somebody to ask.

mircea_popescu: right you are ; i was missing that particular edge of braindamage from my mental model.

mircea_popescu: oooo i see!

a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 00:12 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810271 << i suspect that there is no physical operation involved, it is 100% chumpatronics, like all other subjects of usg.startupism at this point

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810398 << ahaha, i did predict, >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810332 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810407 << it indexes it in ~realtime , it plus a whole buncha crawlers that have namestrings that dun correspond to anything findable publicly, i suspect the usual suspects, when ipbanned they come back ~immediately from somewhere else ☝︎

asciilifeform: i'ma need to put this in faq, really

a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 07:24 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, my question to you is : if there's "Factors Shared by Two or More Moduli: 259" reported on the stats page, yet the factor index goes to 419 (ie, I can see http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factor/419 ) then what the hell's going on ? are there 259 or 419 factors ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810406 << there are two types of factor that are factors of ~solely one~ modulus: 1) debianistic ( and other 'special collection' ones, i'ma make it mark them in the factor page soon) , and, ☝︎

fromdeedbot: I started reding the logs here in NOV.

fromdeedbot: I'll google that

fromdeedbot: if i leave my irc window open it should just stay logged correct?

fromdeedbot: hey guys so I did register my RSA key to deedbot as "fromdeedbot" but i got it working. I'm learning a lot of things are new to me right now so please xcuse me ahead of time if i do something in bad from, it's not on purpose

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, my question to you is : if there's "Factors Shared by Two or More Moduli: 259" reported on the stats page, yet the factor index goes to 419 (ie, I can see http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factor/419 ) then what the hell's going on ? are there 259 or 419 factors ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: anyway, bitcoin's natural value is somewhere in between 150% and 300% or so of the M3. so yes, i see bitcoin price exceeding the aggregate cash value of most countries.

mother[m]: With Nadex, you're trading binary options and it's at market-set prices. Which is more than what I can say for quotes from Deribit for example. I agree on that about the bitcoin price signal. Do you see BTC trading to or past its highs this year?

ben_vulpes: what's the sampler-system design, i mean

asciilifeform: ssl crapola scan is useful also to distinguish the brokenssh boxes from one another ( as i did since the orig scan, e.g. mikrotik )

mircea_popescu: anyway, re hunt, i can't imagine why one'd just do either ssl or ssh. gotta do both really at the same time, why not.

asciilifeform: plz go ahead, i muchly enjoyed the last coupla phuctortrilemas

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i suppose the fact of the matter is, as keys get added the likeliness of broken moduli staying secret drops... which may account for the seeming density increase.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, i suppose after the jurov set is also fed a new fermatting is in order ? considering there's a lot of new numbers to play with.

mircea_popescu: tis what i thought.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i thought you were discreetly suggesting not to try.

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i was asking him not speaking to my own knowledge

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810283 << thinking about this again, i suspect that the age of '1kw miner in half a rack' ended some time in 2013-14 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810275 << it often bothers asciilifeform that we ~use~ the magic numbers erry time we trade usd etc. but i've nothing to propose to replace this ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810271 << i suspect that there is no physical operation involved, it is 100% chumpatronics, like all other subjects of usg.startupism at this point ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 13:44 mother[m]: Going forward I wanted to pivot to Keybase Teams.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810259 << holy fuq, i had nfi that particular scamola were still going strong ☝︎

lobbes: hdd only, but I got the aggressive patch applied, so will see if it can hack it

lobbes: I will soon blog this into a proper post.. but mysql on heathen vps shit the bed. Posts to resume once migration to rockchip box complete

lobbes: in other news, I have a trb node up now and eating blocks (thanks to mod6 for all his troubleshooting efforts, and asciilifeform for confirmation of suspicions)

mircea_popescu: hanbot, not just DID things ; but did things as if they had license to do things. it's this sort of mental independence that botheres them most re gildon i suspect, "how dares he write biographies exactly LIKE HOW WE WRITE THEM!!! not a word of his is true, nor of the official lifestory of obama-clinton-oprah".

mircea_popescu: i dunno, i suspect hearing that always comes with a however-hidden sense of shame / suspicion. they kinda look like they think it's tgtbt.

hanbot: i dunno, i think the best thing they can hear about homework is that they're so special they don't need to do it. their unicornity shall manifest, and better to retain/don the woolies of youth to maximize the potential for manifesting firstbestbiggest.

mircea_popescu: mpex offered options for a long, long time, but mostly because the nascent republic required its currency protected in those early days ; back when i was personaly large enough to maintain some vague semblance of discipline in the marketplace singlehandedly. it's meanwhile wel loutgrown me and so...

mother[m]: I'm more interested in buying options/forwards on both BTC and ETH.

mother[m]: Going forward I wanted to pivot to Keybase Teams. ☟︎

mother[m]: @mircea_popescu have one on Keybase I use, but primarily use Signal, Telegram for co-located team members as the interface gradually became more 'Slack-like'

shinohai: I remembered it from the agent zero sessions

a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 05:31 lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true

asciilifeform: lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810194 << exactly it. your musl gcc never built, so trb has nothing to be built ~with~. you must find out why it did not build. but i recommend burning your heathen linux to the ground and using danielpbarron's, or trinque's, or mine, gentoo recipe ☝︎

mircea_popescu: mother[m], don't you find it difficult to do business without pgp ? i mean... how do you even keep comms secret ?

douchebag: I'll help him get his PGP key setup

mother[m]: I'm on Riot/Matrix, sec.

mother[m]: Finance/Tech background mostly. Sold the IP in my last company I co-Founded with my friend that was at the Rackspace IPO. Just came back from West Africa using drones for geological surveying reselling the data to mining companies/using a prospect generation business model for new opportunities there.

douchebag: I explained to him the idea, and I was thinking mother[m] could be handling the business aspect

mod6: this is soemthing really dumb we're missing here. i'm nearly sure i've encountered this before but can't remember what the pill is.

lobbes: now that I think of it, I had to install 'make' in the beginning O.o

mod6: And if not, I think we might be able to try working around it here quick,.

lobbes: ah, there I got a egogg: make: *** No rule to make target `bitcoin'. Stop.

lobbes: k, I'm there

lobbes: yeah I'm game

mod6: what i suspect, is that the original makefile.unix can't find something it needs.

lobbes: and then if I try to ls gcc-4.7 I get: ls: cannot access gcc-4.7: No such file or directory

mod6: (i suspect this to be a possible debian weird-ness)

mod6: Ok, I checked myself, too, and from your above paste of the press, and my experience just now, your press I presume was fine.

lobbes: oh yeah, no rush. I figure I may as well give what I got at once

lobbes: I tried to press on the first pass with asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch, and it -seemed- to work. I essentially followed the trb how-to ONLINE build, but then downloaded the aggressive patch and seal from btcbase/patches

mod6: I presume you got a good press when you used V to press it out?

lobbes: yeah, I can jump on and see if I can get the full thing via screen.log

mod6: Yeah, hmm, I might be mis-remembering or misreading this one. Lemme look again

lobbes: yeah, I made sure gcc was 4. Actually, I have notes on the exact versions of all the packages listed in: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html

mod6: did you downgrade your gcc from (6 or whatever it is to 4, I'm guessing you did)? And perhaps I recall something not being quite linked correctly in

mod6: yeah, I believe i have seen something like this before