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a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 14:29 asciilifeform: i'ma grind'em all in 1 batch
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811080 << ah ok, i was all "look at that, 0 news" ☝︎
phf: i've skimmed it when it came out and i agree with your feedback. primarily making it self contained, i.e. getting rid of cl-ppcre for parsing (!!1) and needless dependencies like uiop by way of classical (defun run-program (foo bar) #+sbcl (sb-ext:...) #+ccl (ccl:...) #-(or ccl sbcl) (error ...))
ben_vulpes: i just found my old cl v as well; gonna dust it off for lulz
ben_vulpes: i'll give it a read today
ave1: It does have a rudimentary version, but then it re-uses the directories for the next round. Currently, I hope to get this done this week.
ave1: Probably, I will first focus to get the stages building done, that will make it way more easy to debug
ave1: I could not
ave1: Yes, 2.14 (this was to find out if I could make glibc produce smaller statically build outputs)
asciilifeform: ave1: prolly the correct pill is to find where the http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dYf1v/?raw=true items are built, and to force correct precedence in the makefile ( i'd bet that currently they are listed on one line )
ave1: Yes, I was looking into how I could make the flags not apply for specific makefiles
ave1: I suspect the ada makefile(s) have a problem with some of the rules
a111: Logged on 2018-05-07 19:38 diana_coman: ave1, any chance you tweak that script so I can at least test it in stages rather than 3-4 hour all-or-nothing thing?
ave1: diana_coman, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-07#1810933, I'm working on it, getting rid of the git line was a bit harder than expected (apparently nobody hosts this as as a tar.gz file). Also, all my parallel builds of the whole thing fail. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: yah, that's what i mean. eaten.
asciilifeform: i'ma grind'em all in 1 batch ☟︎
esthlos: it should be fixed if I replace the current call to run-program with the full sb-ext:run-program, and really the call should be fixed to work on ccl as well
trinque: far as I'm aware it's logging the rejected connect attempts
trinque: this is a trb log, not some banthing I made
mircea_popescu: trinque, but i mean, you ban it for 0-30 seconds ?
mircea_popescu: but i mean... in 2018 ?!
mircea_popescu: it is possible they were rickrolled and didn't realise it, i didn't stick around to investigate.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : while walking through the barrio chino, i'm struck by the unmistakable effluvia of... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
mod6: i don't eat as much beef as i used to i guess. more pork & chicken these days
mod6: i'd like to say 'sad', but then i aught to feel sad for myself as I probably eat a lot of feed-lot beef myself.
mircea_popescu: i thought the big story out of the soviet united these days is which geezer said which other geezer isn't welcome at his funeral.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever paid anything but cash or personal notes. wtf "lenders".
mircea_popescu: but my expectation is that it'll be purely subjective, "i divide fire into good-useful fire (GUF) such as when i cook, insidious-noxious fire (INF) such as when my pregnant wife smokes and bad-terrible fire (BTF) such as when arson." the guf-inf-btf model is however not a fucking classification of fire.
mircea_popescu: the best model i can summon is indeed the http://trilema.com/2016/the-eastern-rpg/ : there's a "mage" which has 4 spells which do a) 30 dmg + 5x to 1 target ; b) 15dmg + 7x to 1 target ; c) 5 dmg + 3x to 3 targets and d) 10 dmg + 10x to all targets provided a b or c were cast five times prior. then there's an... "assassin", whatever the fuck, paladin, electropostalist, metamicronicist, anything whatsoever -- which (importantl
mircea_popescu: good luck with this fauna, i've not yet seen the wonder where classification was meaningful in any perspective.
mircea_popescu: i mean, the specialist will tell you ~something~. counts legs, counts hairs on legs, counts fucking something. then i can take what he said and apply it and not end up in a contradiction.
mircea_popescu: i am not yet that advanced. as things stand right now, i can't even explain what'd be the morphological differences. at all.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is even the difference between publish-or-perish-i and publish-or-perish-ii ?
mircea_popescu: contrary to all the pretense, there's really 0 difference. "tech journalist" / "academic" / "entrepreneur" / whatever the fuck. i don't distinguish between the doubtless present and in-character very visible "sorts" and "kinds" of african garbage pickers trying to turn the refuse of a great civilisation that doesan't include them into some root paste or w/e they eat. you know for a fact they are so, because the various classe
asciilifeform: but really, mircea_popescu , if i find , let's say, a set of breakable pubkeys that with reasonable certainty came from gpg 1.4.10, this will not be a more interesting find than debianized ssh set ?
mircea_popescu: but sure, i don't disagree, the more it finds the better.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-07 18:48 ben_vulpes: i'm still boggled that people appear to outgrow curiosity
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i missed 1 : that german thing
asciilifeform: but has not much in common with what you and i , use. and, more importantly, given 'piltdown man'-stitched-out-of-parts ~random selfsigs, ~anyone~ could have produced the mirrorolade. you can trivially create it for every pubkey in phuctor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i was discussing the dozen gpg generated, sks vintage keys that weren't divisible by 5.
mircea_popescu: if i know anything about esltards, it's that far FAR from "i made this so and so, here's the tool binary at the very least, if not source i compiled" they'll instead be "oh nothing happened".
mod6: ah, hmm. We'll see I guess :]
asciilifeform: eating the ~7mil keyz will take, i expect, about a day.
diana_coman: ave1, any chance you tweak that script so I can at least test it in stages rather than 3-4 hour all-or-nothing thing? ☟︎
asciilifeform: to be very concrete, for all i know , his script ~works~ , i simply was not able to test from that point
asciilifeform: diana_coman: about 80% in, i think. possibly would actually work if i permitted it
BingoBoingo: Aite, the local version of crackers suck. Thankfully I picked up a garlic loaf. Split open and loaded with ALL the blue cheese and the white cheese, this might beat the half kilo of ice cream as the most decadent thing I have ate in Uruguay.
asciilifeform: not same thing as adult (i.e. systematized) curiosity.
ben_vulpes: i'm still boggled that people appear to outgrow curiosity ☟︎
asciilifeform: they ain't got one, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, and i'll bet you twentysomething tard dun even know what a gopnik is. and this ignorance does not worry him, "there's this scary not-good dood who said something i didn't even understand" somehow fails to carry the "today is the day you die" signal with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, consider however the 2nd order effects : i know how they think. can you imagine what that radicalurile could possibly serve ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking re # that reported for basic training in castle mircea_popescustein, say
ben_vulpes: i suggest a wordpress plugin
mircea_popescu: anyway, what do i count ? every girl my IA devices ever touched ? that'd be tens of millions, who knows, a billion. every girl in what, my girl's l1 ? l2 ? l which ?
asciilifeform: i can't resist to ask : mircea_popescu has been drilling shitlife for yrs; anyffing ever come out of the pipe, aside from sludge ?
mircea_popescu: imagine this fucking wonder, "not a good person". what the fuck happened in their heads, seriously, this is a drawback, being the guy your mom told you to stay clear of ? he;s going to do me disservice by running around "warning" the gals about how not good i am ?
mircea_popescu: em so very keen on slavery I wanted to offer you the chance to be a slave. I've seen a few posts about you asking people to be your slave, well you can be mine instead." "me : Any clue who you're talking to, gopnik ?" "him : couldn't give a damn who i'm talking to. The fact that most groups i'm part of are warning people about you tells me that you're not a good person."
mircea_popescu: there's a large (and good god vocal!) population on say fetlife, which is only there to steal the having been stolen from wrt sex. specifically, they're mental 12yos who are there to not have to notice they're entiurely asexual, "how could you think that of me, i'm here engaging in the exact sort of slut-in-training perisexual and cvasisexual behaviours typical of pubescence!". here, sampler : "Law_And_Chaos 26M Dom ah you se
asciilifeform: i thought skype etc were voip crapola, rather than pseudo-broadcast
mircea_popescu: anyway, the trigger was me explaining why i'm not gonna use skype/discord, no matter what the fuck they do. apparently "daytime talk radio" was meanwhile supplanted by these mutual clucking devices they have. who the fuck knew in three short decades socialism will manage to take all the most obnoxious features of a marginal social phenomenon associated with wage slaves and turn it into a universal locus of youth.
mircea_popescu: nda Gates Foundation. Was not a whole lot. Less than a mil. I made a decent fortune from bitcoins for no reason. And they are doing some really cool projects for humanity. Love their work. I have been to quite a few of Richard Stallman's talks. But still not inspired enough to care so much about OSS. I like it, but I also understand the argument for not having OSS and making money off it. But you did a good thing there. so co ☟︎
mircea_popescu: You are the early BTC adopter and IIRC you were or had used DAO's findings/theft (whatever you call). I thought your name seemed familiar, but I do not always participate in the chatter. I was an early bitcoin adopter too. Then I got around to ethereum. Did a fun ICO - http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/news/2147-2017kybernetwork-loiluu/ But near December last year, I donated the cash value of almost all of my bitcoins to Bill & Meli
mircea_popescu: time i recount a story, i suppose. here it is : "Subject: Ah, I remember now :D
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 14:50 Framedragger: i like my rc airplanes. "the will of history necessitates you to X" has a marx'ified hegelian vibe :p
mircea_popescu: i dun recall this ?
BingoBoingo: Nah, but I also don't want to hand over cash if it can be avoid it. And the Urgency is substantially less than yesterday.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, in 8 days I get to use all of this bullshit tax stuff paid here to get my not-Obamacare. Optimistically if I only need the number and not the physical card I could see a doctor as soon as tomorrow.
BingoBoingo: Then tomorrow I appear with my paperwork at the Department of identity, then next Tuesday I pick up the Cedula.
mircea_popescu: used to be a time when being a staff officer meant something. now it's mostly i-cant-believe-this-fuckwit-isnt-an-academic / oh-but-he-is.
asciilifeform: i recall this from old trilema piece ?
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what they called secluded rapespots in the italian countryside.
mircea_popescu: i expect you actually own 100% of all computers ever shipped to uruguay. the rest is in extraterritorial zone.
asciilifeform: the funny/sad bit, is that i found enuff local material sources that it ~is~ possible to , say, make racks for rockchippen on-site, with some effort. BUT the chance of getting more than a handful of raw pcbs un-encased in protective 'old server' chassis, through orc checkpoint, is ~0
mircea_popescu: yeah, because pouring concrete in matrices is like the height of white man's craft, not even black women i'm sorry, WOMEN OF AFRICA ever tried this with ground up mud and spitpies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think they even know how to make own drainpipes, much less these
asciilifeform: i will add : this is for a 10$ cable with fortybux of importtax ~prepaid~ via shitazon
mircea_popescu: (anyway, i'm mostly joking. THEY don't know how to speak their previous colonizer's language, and so they say "to buy from locals" when they mean "the buying of locals". w/e)
mircea_popescu: local fermented beverages, how the fuck do i know what orcs trade.
asciilifeform: i parsed it as mandatory for some reason
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i ain't sending cc pics or mtgox passport shots
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't get it, what's the problem ? ~exact spanish translation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-02#1719423 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i thought phf mostly did cmu cl
mircea_popescu: i agree ; must stand on own more than possible
trinque: worth saying also that use of quicklisp is anti-v. it's a wad of packages some dude compiled, he's not in our WoT, no signatures on packages (last I checked), and to top it off, it hauls down foreign code and executes for you as a single op.
trinque: I'm fine with helping. could take a crack at it tomorrow.
trinque: can implement a "run-program" of our own in here, implement for sbcl and ccl. I don't know that I've heard of anyone here using another.
trinque: ah, sbclism. I'm on ccl over here. and looks like run-program's an undeclared dep on uiop
trinque: I'd also like to see the cl-ppcre dependency drop (not only for the call out to quicklisp to obtain it)
esthlos: i'll field and questions/criticism tomorrow, gotta run for now
esthlos: trinque: no, I didn't jump off the deep end without discussing it. I've already made the interface changes
esthlos: mircea_popescu: i'm at a loss of what to say. but really, it's moving
trinque: it'd be a happy thing if I can stay with my welder in portage's innards while this happens and not have to end up doing that part myself
trinque: I intentionally aimed you at "fix the interfaces" because it appeared that was the thing most glaringly wrong with it, and not all this
mircea_popescu: well yes, but you don;'t have to be. i get it, in general everything's crap, but dja think i'd even for a second have permitted it if it were ? the stuff about, it's all stuff that somehow survived the republican demolition frenzy. it's not just random gunk.
esthlos: indeed. I am rather lonely, in general
esthlos: and wrt self hatred, I'm really at a loss. somehow it thought like a good idea
esthlos: mircea_popescu: what I took away from your comment was that the philosophy file was to be used to determine vpatch ancestry, rather incorrectly it seems
mircea_popescu: apparently in my naivite i bestowed upon trinque a larger dollop than originally realised.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 23:21 esthlos: alright. What I don't understand, then, is mircea_popescu's response