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asciilifeform: ( above is not ~directly~ piz-pertinent, but ~does~ make it 9000x easier to develop rom payloads for the thing )
asciilifeform: among other virtues, it's the only currently produced box that worx with sage device .
asciilifeform: i have for several yrs nao , 2 of these going in the torture room ( the old 2GB ver. ) , w/various probes soldered in, for various purposes
asciilifeform: ( if anyone forgot -- this is series of 12v-powered amd64 boxen with published schematics, afaik the only such that's still in production )
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set.
asciilifeform: btw interestingly, the folx who make apu* , price the apu1 higher than far moar recent box , w/faster specs, evidently we aint the only folx who like classical (i.e. pre-fritzchip ) g-series . ☝︎
asciilifeform: i would really like the thing to reach stability (of whatever sort can be achieved in near term) before i burn it to rom tho
asciilifeform: however my last shot was 2 trinque revisions ago.
BingoBoingo: Sounds like a plan, 10 machines in a trip isn't a bad density.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: currently i'm thinking, 2 x dulap-style, 2 x 1u w/ ea. 4 x apu1 'amd g' where cuntoo in write-protected rom . ( i have a rom booter for the latter, built on ancient 'coreboot' )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Will do the calculation with the statement compilation. Will confirm the refuel's receipt this week. Today is international commie day so the whole country is sorta closed.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also plox to confirm, at yer earliest, that refuel was received.
asciilifeform: ( x is what remains after the most recent dc refuel by asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: and incidentally, BingoBoingo , asciilifeform owes 1btc + x to piz . plox to determine x , and i'ma pay it in iron , at the moment when we come to final decision re next iron set.
asciilifeform: what do i then tell people, 'yes canhaz ada, but dun use thread' lol.
asciilifeform: granted , rk worx fine for 'traditional' soft, e.g. mp's wp ; but let's say 'tmsr dns' or other adatronic proggy becomes part of typical use, then wat.
asciilifeform: the disappearance of ave1 has made the matter moar pressing
BingoBoingo: Right, this is where we were at last time this popped up, leaning towards totally AMD64 run and have only moved more towards that with silence on the arm64 front
asciilifeform: it saddens asciilifeform to end up loading up on x86 , but unless there is sudden breakthrough , this is what must be done ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Without a timeline for arm64 gnat, AMD64 makes a lot more sense
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: diana_coman provoked me to think : until arm64 gnat is fixed ( and we dun know when this will be! cuz ave1 is MIA ! ) it does not make sense to expand the rk pilot plant . do we want instead to fill the next crate entirely with amd ? let's make a decision on this in the near term, so that we can put down a definite date re next buildout
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 19:36 trinque: reading the logs since I departed, seems like it'd be helpful to do another post (after a bunch of sig verifications) where I do a literate version of the script
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894496 -> trinque , did I miss this literate version or still not enough sigs or? ☝︎
diana_coman will go to dig the log + hanbot's blog and re-load re what went wrong exactly
diana_coman: obv, as long as it actually does come, true.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: one we install additional units, this machine will be listed in the catalogue next to rk. ( presently the only available unit is the one discussed earlier, and only by special arrangement as with hanbot )
BingoBoingo will get to writing copy about Pizarro-type machines for asciilifeform's technical review
diana_coman: i.e. looked at this and that, based on it -> this; so far this will be pizarro-iron-type for as long as it can be found/nothing better is found
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i stand corrected then
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have not. The machine I am working on that with needs some parts, hence the call for importables.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I meant to proclaim what Pizarro did and does, not to claim that it'll be available forever or anything; but honestly, I went all-ways on the website and could-not-find-anything on this
asciilifeform: iirc BingoBoingo has performed a successful beta-cuntoo installation , for own needs. you may choose to delegate the task to him.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> that should be absolutely enough, I don't see any trouble with it; and disk was a separate issue irc? << I have some spinning disks in my surplus pile.
diana_coman: myeah; I'm not a fan of remote-install anything for that matter but anyway. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i would proclaim moar loudly that it is 'standard' , but i have no way to guarantee the continued availability of this (or other) particular iron, given as i do not manufacture it , and there is no plan to ever obtain it 'new from factory' , 'clean' amd is no longer produced.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i think is obvious, experimental ~os~ install , over remote wire, is a tricky and potentially painful biz .
diana_coman: great; maybe Pizarro could be more proud of it though?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: indeed , this is the de-facto piz standard for x86 . on acct of cost , availability, and asciilifeform-approved vintage of subcomponents
diana_coman: that should be absolutely enough, I don't see any trouble with it; and disk was a separate issue irc?
diana_coman: re run: does this mean that currently this is the de-facto "pizarro-iron amd" preferred spec ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: ok; can you point me please to spec of the machine as I don't fully have it in-head?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: to answer the 2nd q, the next delivery run is slated to include two additional machines of the same type.
diana_coman: so hm, for one thing it'd again require mp's permission at any rate.
asciilifeform: it is actually the snsa spare , BingoBoingo and asciilifeform were leasing it out to hanbot at colo rate , with mp's permission. ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there is exactly 1 idle amd box currently.
diana_coman: I just don't fully recall what it was and I thought Pizarro had it in more clear/one place so I don't have to go digging for it
asciilifeform: hanbot plox to correct me if above is wrong.
asciilifeform: afaik 100% of hanbot's problem was in the experimental (cuntoo) soft
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i am not aware of hanbot lodging a complaint re ~the iron~ ( plz point to log if missed )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo judging by hanbot's experience though with that machine, it's not exactly the best for this sort of thing? or what was the trouble? also: will there be more provision after the planned pizarro-run (when will that be)? why does this feel like pulling teeth anyway
asciilifeform ate considerable qty of sturgeon caviar , as a boy , cuz in su was quite available. they pissed on the cartel, with enthusiasm , and if were alive today, would piss still, and not only on this one
asciilifeform: ... rather like the case of sturgeon caviar. turns out, sturgeon grows a++ in captivity. but nobody's in any hurry to drive its price to the physically-available min.
asciilifeform vaguely suspects that cocaine is a 'veblen good' , and that this accounts for above puzzler
asciilifeform: what, medellin shot literally errybody who tried ?
asciilifeform: for that matter, equator is not only in south amer, lol ☟︎
asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp how it is that no one managed to breed a coca that grows on other continents
BingoBoingo: The Paraguayo brick weed sets a price floor, gets distributed to much of the continent. No reason for the places that can grow coca to grow lower margin cash crop.
BingoBoingo: Cheaper in Paraguay. Paraguay is the continent's top producer. Uruguay legalizing doesn't kill Paraguay's farms.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why do they go to para- to buy it ? i thought it was entirely available in uru-
BingoBoingo: Mostly i suspect they go to bring a brick of weed back in their rent-a-car, but... rumors and innuendo
BingoBoingo: Well, the Uruguayos use it as a sort of Mexico. Cheaper more lawless place to vacation.
asciilifeform: i'd be the last to know wtf tourists do there.
BingoBoingo: Well, tourism is the non-ag income here. Lots of visa free arrangements that aren't necessarily reciprocal for the Uruguayo passport holders
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they have 'visa-free' treaty with ru , so surprisingly touristy.
asciilifeform: that 1 i suspect modern tourist.
BingoBoingo: Well, you did encounter old woman at the feria speaking russian
asciilifeform: but not particularly interesting to go to
asciilifeform: iirc this one, is not far from montevideo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other curio in uy , there was a 'civilian' ru colony. but they did not have the cult. so result was -- assimilated, forgot lang, today ~indistinguishable from other local orcs
asciilifeform: even moar interestingly, visitors all seem to agree re 'they have moonshine, but no alconauts, no one takes to drink' etc
BingoBoingo: Well, compare to the alternative. If it is farm cult versus being poor, farm cult wins.
asciilifeform: they not only breed but the n+1st gen goes 'yeah i'ma live here, and wake up at 400hrs for matins, and then drive tractor, or horse if out of petrol' and it goes. ☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik they even get by, somehow, without a 'pope'
asciilifeform: imho 1 of the more interesting examples of 'well-run cult'
asciilifeform: they grow enuff even to export.
asciilifeform: rright but they aint
BingoBoingo: Well, scratching the dirt with hand tools isn't uncommon down here.
asciilifeform: i.e. not simply 'living time capsule.' i have nfi how they keep up the e.g. 'pnoje yes, tv nope' etc biz.
asciilifeform: 19th c. organization, + cutting edge chinese tractors.
asciilifeform: lately they've been moving back, putin gave'em some phree lands somewhere
asciilifeform: there's famously a pre-1917 ru 'old believers' colony in uy, i think they bought this
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the local ag folks have detailed soil quality maps etc.
BingoBoingo: 50-150k a hectare is "urban" or "resort" sorta land. The stuff being sold to get outta farming.
BingoBoingo: AHA, the chile "dolar viilante" deal
asciilifeform: ( 'mars' is not even the worst case. iirc there was an ancient thread where mircea_popescu described some scan where 'land for pennies', and on examination turned out to be in the andes, where even to anchor a solar panel is nontrivial )
asciilifeform: i'ma guess then , that '2.5 - 5k usd / hectare' is naked mars, and the 50-150 , is where habitable
BingoBoingo: And so on. These are as mircea_popescu pointed out a very organized people http://trilema.com/2014/colonia-uruguay/
BingoBoingo: Depends, sometimes there's plumbing. Frequently a reactor connection. The price trend generally offers a clue as to what the situation is in a giver department.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is a 'bring yer own reactor an' plumbing' martian landscape , i suppose ?
BingoBoingo: Anyways, rural land price data came out today if anyone is looking to homestead https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/cayo-la-venta-de-campos-y-el-valor-promedio-por-hectarea-201951123456
BingoBoingo: But the "Maduro is actually really popular" hypothesis continues to gather support
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Guaidó called for a crowd to protest at Carlota Airbase where they were used as human shields during the assault... At least tank derps knew they were fucking with a tank
asciilifeform: 'you get run over by the tank you have, not the tank you wish you had'(tm)
BingoBoingo: I'll have to wait till the video pops up on the news again. Thought this one was a wheeled tank
asciilifeform: iguess usg accomplished ~sumthing~, lol, nao they can stink about 'spooled onto tank treads' for 30 yrs like they do over cn ☟︎
BingoBoingo: During a time where a bunch of confused Venezolanos thought Guiadó's orders were Maduros. Note the armed services settled out of rebellion after the deception was discovered.
BingoBoingo: They were in the Tank's blindspot
asciilifeform: idjits got tiananmen'd, eh
BingoBoingo: In former presidents saying things https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/mujica-sobre-manifestantes-venezolanos-atropellados-no-hay-que-pararse-delante-una-tanqueta--20195112346
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910421 << aaactually! nao that i think about it, you may have noticed that the clay fish with boar tusks is missing. cuz i bought it and took home , lol ☝︎