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BingoBoingo: But seriously.
The blue pogos were
the worthless ones right, or do I gotta go back
to Walmart
tonight?
mircea_popescu: "The largest criticisms of Symbolics in
the article are
that Symbolics believed AI would
take off and
that Symbolics mistakenly pushed its view
that proprietary hardware was
the way
to go for AI."
mircea_popescu: the whole
thing
that company was - a giant apple store.
mircea_popescu: because if
the personification of justice sits
there and says "only had one bullet, and ms were idiots - so i killed
the dangerous morons", i can't protest.
mircea_popescu: that it fucking died a sad death almost excuses
the fact microsoft didn't.
mircea_popescu: a) you don';t get
to say what's
the criteria for you being proven wrong
mircea_popescu: jurov "gets it" in
that he flatters your favourite worldview, is all.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:36:07; jurov: and would be
the computer even feasible when only anough vacuum
tubes/xsistors will be developed only for
top 15k
to have radio receiver?
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:28:07; jurov: you can't have custom "special" "high performance" whole supply line from mine up
to
the product
guruvan: no
trouble - I'm gonna play a little with V
tonight
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:27:13; pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: hard
to make a small steel mill ? yes. impossible ? no.
mod6: when you get
there, if you hit any snags, just let me know.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:21:10; pete_dushenski: you better have a unique
turn signal stalk in your 599 gtb. or else.
mod6: well,
that's pretty much it.
the 'init' command should
take care of
the rest.
mod6: 1]: with version 99997 create (by hand) a ~/.wot directory and populate it with keys named as
their irc-nick and .asc, like: mod6.asc or asciilifeform.asc
mod6: yeah perl 5, and
that should be it. if you want it
to be able
to utilize
the graphing utility, you need
to install Graph::Easy, but
that is not a requirement or prereq
to it running.
guruvan: any prereqs i need
to know - just latest perl?
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:14:09; pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1372994 <<
this is readily disproven by
the markets for
tourbillons, cessnas, and ferraris. none of which "need"
the mass market. so even if
these manufacturers might sell some swag
to
the plebes and make a dime doing it,
they arguably innovated more before
they reduced
themselves
to part-time sheep herding..
guruvan: no - I'm not
there yet - I'm just sitting down
to figure out how
to use V
mod6: <+guruvan> mod6: bitcoin docker image is up - just
testing now - patch wasn't working for me, so it's manually applied << ah, you had it build from V?
mod6: yup, me
too -- code is done, pretty much
tested
thus far. but
the changes
to having .wot in
the pwd instead of ~/ by default; i want
to ensure
that it works ok with
trinque' makefiles before i publish.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:07:49; pete_dushenski: ^berlin airport completed in 1927, when commercial air
travel was far from accessible. and still, infrastructure was built ! whaddyaknow !
guruvan: mod6: bitcoin docker image is up - just
testing now - patch wasn't working for me, so it's manually applied
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:06:42; BingoBoingo: cobol,
the language of bzns
mod6: the new, yet unreleased v99996 will check
the resultant hashes of
the files
touched by a vpatch --
to add another layer
to
this.
mod6: i'm not really
talkinga bout
the pressing. as i was saying
to ben, i checked all of my pressings by final output hash & have automated
tests
that check & ensure
this outcome is correct.
mod6: from
those discussions, I'm under
the impression
that
the ordering of
the flow doesn't exactly have
to be
the exact same, as long as
the pressing is
the exact same.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:13; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in
the *exact same*
tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:45; *: pete_dushenski assumes osx 10.6 discs would be hard
to come by
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:54:13; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: press of a given head should result in
the *exact same*
tree under all V's, as i understand it << mine was ever so slightly varient from alfs
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in
the *exact same*
tree under all V's, as i understand it
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 00:12:50; jurov: irc you and mircea_popescu expect power
to hang or stake certain people..
that's pretty close
to "all" end
assbot: Logged on 17-01-2016 00:00:02; jurov:
to go back
to original issue, how can multiple centers of power exist in bitcoin?
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 22:52:05; ben_vulpes: mod6: press of a given head should result in
the *exact same*
tree under all V's, as i understand it
mircea_popescu: ideology matters a lot more
than
these
things.
the germans wanted
to be free and
the french wanted
to party.
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:51:43; jurov: feudalism in
the past was decentralised only because of distances and communication problems
BingoBoingo: Example: mass market walmart brand clock radio purchased
today. Beats
the hell out of finicky big name 2006 clock radio. Beautiful AM reception only 22 inches from UPS
transformer
BingoBoingo: Occassionally 2016 stuff is better
than 2006 stuff.
mircea_popescu: heck, even in 1950 stuff was a lot more reliable
than
the shit
that passes
today.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 23:45:44; pete_dushenski: jurov: i can see it. and while i agree
there would be
trade-offs (less reliability, more difficulty find parts perhaps), i
think
that
the benefits would more
than compensate and
that product designers would adapt
themselves accordingly (eg. making repairs possible without specialised equipment and using more readily available parts)
mircea_popescu: for as long as
they make as much difference as rats,
they can also multiply as rats.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, doctor came
to your fucking house. like
they still did when i was a child, and ironicallyt - for
the exact same reason.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: If
there aren't jsut a handful of families in
town with
the relative wallets
to
tell
the cable co FU, can't have get fiber
mircea_popescu: except if you were poor and unconnected, but in
that case - YOU BELONG IN
THE SEWER.
mircea_popescu: and note
that
there wasn't any sort of run amok "medical profession", or "legal profession", or anything else back
then. doctor fucking paid house calls.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but
the ONLY difference is
that instead of cox writing 10k 50 dollar bills for cable each month, a coupla hundred people sign off on cable bills worth 10k dollars each once a year. and
the internet is
twice as good. << Kinda why US municipalities with good internet have a maximum size.
mircea_popescu: so you got a 4x improvement in qualityt of life for
the slaves&servants in question out of
the very simple measure of halving
the costs and doubling
the quality ; and at
the expense
that julie nobody doesn't get
to pretend on reddit and gates doesn't get
to pretend in washpo anymore.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but
the ONLY difference is
that instead of cox writing 10k 50 dollar bills for cable each month, a coupla hundred people sign off on cable bills worth 10k dollars each once a year. and
the internet is
twice as good.
mircea_popescu: and yes
this means some inept derp doesn't get
to sit around and "save
the world" with "his foundation". fuck gates,
too.