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felipelalli: mircea_popescu: you don'
t know how to hide these annoying messages in your client? I am not doing this purposely. Or it is the network, or I turned my notebook off and on again.
gribble: felipelalli was last seen in #trilema 3 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, 44 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <felipelalli> mircea_popescu: why mpex isn'
t listed on Google anymore?
https://www.google.com.br/#safe=off&q=mpex I just realized that yesterday, is that purposeful?
pete_dushenski: who knew tucker max was so progressive. reappropriating old words is libtard 101. ie. "wage slaves aren'
t slaves because only blacks can be slaves!!1"
danielpbarron: I mean, if you don'
t believe, then marry or don'
t, it's not like adhering to the rules without faith is worth anything
phf: didn'
t danielpbarron made a point a few times that one is not to seek a wife
phf: those people ~spend~. i mean they make the most money to put them in what used to be middle class bracket, but they don'
t spend it on houses and cars. instead on vaxen
phf: but no it's just a special kind of mindset, i don'
t know how to else call it but people who are into "retrohardware". there's a pecking order there between "i have an amiga and a macintosh" and "i have a vax, a pdp, a ..."
phf: right, so vax goes for a fraction of the cost. still same guy who put me in touch with dks, and spends 5k on each bolix, will spend fraction of that on a vax, because "it ain'
t bolix of course, but it's still cool"
phf: asciilifeform: there's a massive hobbyist market. well to do corporate programmers spending monthly paychecks on retrohardware. when i was buying my xl1201, i was bidding against a guy, who's been doing a tech lead thing since the 90s (an unbearably aspy fellow). he said that he was so pissed he didn'
t get it, he put a 12k starting bid on the next one and still got it for around 6k
pete_dushenski: you apparently haven'
t seen the cayenne turbo s / grand cherokee srt8 / x6m class of sporty suvs.
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, I don'
t understand your logic here. Even your criticism of znort's reputation is addressed in my copy. But whatever I'll just post it on my own blog
ben_vulpes: or "can'
t piss off uae sponsors of us terrorism on global stage" angle
ben_vulpes: decent "us has no sovereignty, can'
t effect their own honor killings" angle
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: ANyways where again were the lulz in "Heroic Jap Stationwagon Swats Traffic Disrupting Pedelarast" I still haven'
t found it.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: There's prolly a way to rewrite what you submitted to news it up, but as you presented it it wasn'
t news. Maybe a "look how unlucky this guy is" angle would help? All those misfortunes may very well involve malice on the part of persons other than him. Such an angle could be very newsy.
phf: i'm just hoping nobody's going to do a fundraiser for it. thank god gabriel_laddel hasn'
t discovered it yet
phf: asciilifeform: nobody's asking you, this is for people who want a fixer-upper. you don'
t want to use cmucl either, because it's half baked. it does feel just a tad "i just want to", but i can'
t necessarily fault you for it
phf: bordeaux-threads stopped building with my asdf1, i checked, someone hardcoded >3.11 check, with ~no purpose for it~. next thing i know i read "<jackdaniel> [04:44:30] but don'
t use clim's mp, I've reimplemented it on top of bordeaux-thread just for backward compatibility" on #clim
shinohai: You can'
t even build prb without setting a swap space. Or at least I haven'
t been successful yet.
mircea_popescu: that they stopped saying it doesn'
t mean anything changed ; they just thought everyone got the idea.
mircea_popescu: i thought it said so in the linux manual cca 1996, "linux can not be run without swap. don'
t even try."
mircea_popescu: not that there aren'
t a precious few competent folk out there. but they suffer a heavy demographic burden in the form of idiot us sucking them in to "build companies" and go to conferences and waste their lives for belonging&jam-tomorrow ; and the rest are fucking busy raping nsa and such.
phf: speaking of wordpress, mysql keeps consistently crashing. i don'
t think i've had a unix daemon crash on me in the recent memory, this is a first
phf: diana_coman: i think i didn'
t say enough on the subject. the core of what i did in order to get it to build on mac os x is fix autoconf scripts, if i revisit mac os x build in a couple of weeks, i'll try and provide a portable patch
mircea_popescu: i don'
t necessarily dispute that he THOUGHT about it for many years. but there's a profound difference between these two things. psychological first of all.
mircea_popescu: best i can discern two things : 1) derp wanted to discourage old coinbases accumulating (had intuition about the blockchain bloat didn'
t want to address or know how to) ; 2) fees would have been HUGE early on without this, as in, "fuck you, you wanna transact it's 50 cents. i dun care your 1k btc is enough for a pizza slice ie 2 bux"
mircea_popescu: accept that or don'
t, i dun particularly care nor does in fact have any effects. but history is history, rather than fantasy.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, the reason we don'
t have an obnoxiously impudent mining cartel today is almost entirely due to that root, and its fruit.
mircea_popescu: i'd guess a and esp b should be obvious. if they aren'
t obvious, the problem is almost certainly not what's stated.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) yes i do "manual payments" ; this however does not mean i create the txn by hand. i'd think this'd be obvious ; b) any and all, this and all sorts of other resources are used to establish things about the network. i am, for the record, THE FIRST, and also for years THE ONLY both systematically sending txnfees "not needed" and pushing for others to do so. it is utterly not because i'm trying to shave pennies
t mircea_popescu: jurov is smart kid, gotta have some ankle weights of stupid and loud noises in inner ear lest he doesn'
t fit in with the idiots he originally originated with anymore.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the consensus in my head also is that if you keep with this whiny anal child subversive bullshit i'll bitchslap you so far up your mother's ass friends and family won'
t be able to reassemble the pieces.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 11:43 jurov: noone can'
t ever use vanilla autotools and ftjam as documented. it's absolute necessity to prove own intelligence and DRY-adherence by creatively rigging the build system.
jurov: you always use the most immaterial point and use it as counterargument "phee jurov doesn'
t want to clean his guns manually"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 22:32 asciilifeform: 'The situation is somewhat akin to a retarded girlfriend trying to flood your apartment, that not only opens all the faucets and stops all the drains, but also takes the "extremely clever" measure of puncturing the water pipes, so she can then preciously inform you that "turning off the faucets won'
t help" and you must work with her to somehow create a raft out of your widescreen TV so as to navigate the marshy terrain that used to b
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 03:11 phf: i say it's a chicken and egg problem, because you know you can get vendor versions of posix tools (and then still reduce the available "language" even more, by taking away some features that might be missing in nominally posix sh on some obscure system), but you can'
t really do anything else, until you established some truths about your environment
shinohai: I like phf's setup, it is simple to go in and find which patches I need/don'
t need.
jurov: noone can'
t ever use vanilla autotools and ftjam as documented. it's absolute necessity to prove own intelligence and DRY-adherence by creatively rigging the build system.
☟︎ jurov: and www-hopper won'
t change much about insane clients
mircea_popescu: phf eulora can'
t pull current cs because they fucked it up. so i wouldn'
t know.
phf: do you know if my changes were integrated into the release? because last time i checked the build wasn'
t doing autoconf, but simply using patches generated scripts.
phf: new takes on build systems suffer, because they rely on high level languages. and if your vendor didn'
t provide you with perl or python, you're back to squire one "how do i compile my build system on this machine"
phf: i say it's a chicken and egg problem, because you know you can get vendor versions of posix tools (and then still reduce the available "language" even more, by taking away some features that might be missing in nominally posix sh on some obscure system), but you can'
t really do anything else, until you established some truths about your environment
☟︎ phf: hence asciilifeform's "don'
t compile this on VMS" comment.
phf: there are no arrays. you literally don'
t get better storage than "text in a variable". there's very limited math. even expressing something simple "do this n times" is pain.
mircea_popescu: which really, isn'
t also parsed in the way lisp is also parsed because people are emotionally attached, and no other reason.
mircea_popescu: rather than "read line, check if we checked, check" wouldn'
t it be saner to "read all lines, create list of checks, check list" ?
mircea_popescu: i don'
t even understand why does it parse rather than compile, for instance. seems a very nutty design decision.
mircea_popescu: seems pure fetishism. "i'm not signing generated code" well... yousigned ... your signature didn;
t you ?
phf: it doesn'
t satisfy our own requirements of fits in head, it goes through a rube goldberg machine in order to produce a specific build for a specific system. "mac os x? fuck you. openbsd? fuck you". it doesn'
t succeed at own goal of producing bit identical builds.
mircea_popescu: had they properly used automake the problem wouldn'
t have existed.
mircea_popescu: yeah but it doesn'
t do it by itself. it's just a macro merge thing neh ?
mircea_popescu: ie, it wipes out of itself everything it doesn'
t actually use.
mircea_popescu: well that's because automake doesn'
t work in visual studio.
phf: i need to patch site icon on that host, it still
T phf: with empty implementation file, and #error don'
t use this inside
phf: asciilifeform: because you didn'
t strategically apply excludes to things that harbor nazis collaborators, but still should be probably inspected separately
phf: fwiw there aren'
t any file renames between .10 and .21, but certainly plenty of fluff like that
mircea_popescu: i really wouldn'
t advise anyone to open a li-ion shit. why the fuck would you do that, next step is go to africa root through garbage for a living.
phf: oh also i couldn'
t figure out how to get intel to work on x11, rather than radeon. it seems like it requires some boot time pokes, which you need hurd to execute (or else figure out how to run a random code from lilo but before kernel is loaded, etc.)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-21 00:59 phf: for all the jokes about russian vodka drinking, the amount of "functional alcoholism" i've seen in ussa is staggering. i literally cut contact with about 70% of my friends from my 20s, because they are slob alcoholics with no self control. so it's either health nuts who don'
t touch the stuff (or rarely) or else it's "50 minutes of квас and then race to the bottom" crowd
phf: i'll give it another try. i started using it prematurely, and was basically running around looking for a powerplug at the point where i really didn'
t want to deal with shit like that
phf: you know, i don'
t think i've actually checked bios come to think of it
phf: i don'
t remember if i got hybernate to work, but my immediate problem was abysmal battery life on literally single emacs buffer and no daemons
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 20:43 phf: only thing i can'
t figure out with asciilifeform's killfile is how to get laptop to do apm related stuff. the main package depends on dbus
mircea_popescu: yeah. damn that walmart for not spending money it doesn'
t have and "offloading" the police's job on the police at "Taxpayers" (=walmart) expense.
mircea_popescu: "oh it's walmart's fault". no bitch, it's your fault for thinking joe's daddy may not bitchslap joe's mommy, and teachers shouldn'
t keep a leather whip by the markbook just in case, and so on and so forth.
danielpbarron: so invalid address is a thing like nlock is a thing. What is the republic's take on that? I know nlock isn'
t well regarded, but what is the harm in rejecting invalid address? or is there no such thing as an invalid address?
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> why do people go to the trouble of making burn addresses that have valid checksums if such a thing isn'
t enforced by consensus rules? << Because you can either make baby or you can make baby but feed girl levaqin while baby is baking.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's enforced in the sense high-s is enforced : miners won'
t mine it.
danielpbarron: why do people go to the trouble of making burn addresses that have valid checksums if such a thing isn'
t enforced by consensus rules?
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> So scrubs resort to dirty ass butane they can get from like home depot. << What they don'
t carry CO2 at your home depot? You live in the Capital of Home Depot!
danielpbarron: "Bitcoin doesn'
t enforce checksums at the protocol level either." << is this true? A block that includes a transaction which spends to an address with an invalid checksum can be considered valid?
ben_vulpes: i haven'
t seen a vial prepared in any other way in over a year
mircea_popescu: anyway. i fear that the great cvas society went the way of the cafe society decades prior. people just don'
t get out enough / maintain social circle enough / whatever for it to wkr.