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mircea_popescu: prison term FOR WHOLE FAMILY
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform prison term didn't dislodge. people came back to their own flats.
asciilifeform: for the privatizatory to carve up
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 03:41:20; mircea_popescu: this is the cornerstone of any possible sociology.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382257 << this'd be rather like a pirate proposing that piracy is the only possible structure. if it were, what would there be for him to plunder ? ☝︎
danielpbarron: i like to retweet those greaterthan 100 btc trades
danielpbarron: ;;later tell mod6 i think your twatter bot died again
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382234 << isambard kingdom brunel. quite possibly greatest engineer of all time - built first modern bridges, world's largest ships of his century, for britain ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is the cornerstone of any possible sociology. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: then they'll rant and rave about "dupa ce i-a cheltuit vor merita sa devina muncitori ! Nu mai au nici o scuza ca au devenit saraci!"
mircea_popescu: two step process : a) make everyone ACTUALLY carry the burden of being the lord he was seeing himself as and b) allow the scum to shirk away.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382120 << there's no other way out of the idiocy of equality. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382106 "and the moon changes ever as his mind!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you can't blame the gods and live to see the morn.
mircea_popescu: when plebs "own stock", the problem becomes unsolvable, because the ready answer is, "i can't blame myself, for i'm nothing - so i'll just blame the gods"
mircea_popescu: and "you only have yourself to blame".
mircea_popescu: so, if that guy fucks up, as no doubt he will, his distress is merely amusing from a societal pov. and perhaps instructive., but mostly amusing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382094 << you deeply misunderstand what "investor grade" means in this context. the point is that he is RARE. you understand this ? the fundamental property of capital control in any functioning society without exception possible is that it must be concentrated. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 02:10:21; ben_vulpes: i can see it though
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 02:04:27; ben_vulpes: well that's novel and depressing
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382062 << but it does make a lot of difference. a rising tide lifts all boats, there was no admiral nelson of the mughal empire. certainly not at that date. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 01:58:10; ben_vulpes: clearly, there's no 'worthy' but 'demands'.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382056 << i have nfi. i think it's a lot of "how does one get a gf". not being worthy, per se. not demanding $randomfemale submit, per se. not that far off, either. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 02:03:27; asciilifeform: brunel was in the up elevator
polarbeard: a tx debugger sort-of-fits in my plans
polarbeard: I wanted to instrumentalize trb a bit, btw
polarbeard: what do you want from a tx debugger
asciilifeform: polarbeard: why not try your hand at, say, a tx debugger? sorely needed item
asciilifeform: but overall, dependency on ~more~ unix tools is a bad thing, and dependency on ~more complicated~ and less-likely-to-be-reimplemented-by-wot-folk-soon tools, likewise
polarbeard: just wanted to get some love
polarbeard: that's right, I shouldn't have released it this early anyway
polarbeard: to keep track of multiple parents
polarbeard: I would have to implement a hash table in bash
asciilifeform: also it appears that his version requires you to manually munge it every time a new patch is added
asciilifeform: (no, you don't ~have~ to split the patches into patchons, to do this)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: apparently fella wanted to reimplement v in gnumake (as i once considered doing) but made some peculiar design decisions along the way
ben_vulpes: in the meantime, try to understand why we use 'v', and why your failure to do so has lead me to stomp on the ground like a petulant child.
ben_vulpes: anyways, interesting thing, polarbeard, perhaps i shall test it some day along side the tools written by people i trust like mod6 and trinque and asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes has now filed reports with whip-crackers, can go home to die in sweet embrace, will be off shortly
ben_vulpes: i saw some turds, asked some questions, am not entirely thrilled with answers.
ben_vulpes: i have to admit, my eyes glazed over.
polarbeard: you didn't read the script
ben_vulpes: violates principles of v, though.
polarbeard: linear dependencies, easier to handle
ben_vulpes: why won't you answer that one
polarbeard: I aliased it to 'spliff'
ben_vulpes: but more importantly the patches
polarbeard: it's a neat tool
ben_vulpes: "i didn't know any better" is, for the record, an entirely acceptable response.
ben_vulpes: and for the umpteenth time polarbeard /why/ split the damn patches and introduce a million new dependencies?
ben_vulpes: i literally do not care and the spending of time figuring out why the derps do what they do is best left as an exercise to good men like mister backtick who actually enjoy hanging out on bitcointalk.org all day
ben_vulpes: and no this is not "electron" this is why did isaac fuck ahmeds goat
ben_vulpes: the dependency chain of "well i work for satan because i got this useless phd that i got because i had a masters i didn't know what to do with because i got a bachelors that i similarly didn't understand the purpose of because i was told to go to college and" it never fucking ends and i don't really give a shit about the root cause for whatever retardation.
asciilifeform: the islamic world, for instance, never moved beyond this, and it shows
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in reference to?
asciilifeform: i can't speak for ben_vulpes, but the idea that folks who what they do for some explicable reason, rather than because of daemonic possession, was - imho - an advance.
ben_vulpes is the undereducated american today as every day
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: look at my contribution history. it is very nearly 100% reimplementations of that which asciilifeform or mod6 or trinque have written first.
asciilifeform: see the su privatization thread again, if this does not make sense.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: folks who have enough capital to eat the drawn dividends, eat that, and never eat capital. the rest of us, eat whatever falls into the hopper
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: should reimplementing toposort be impossibly painful for you...
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 00:33:02; asciilifeform: and to leave plenty over for the common piggy
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1381913 << and that's eating the capital of all sins ☝︎
asciilifeform: wait till polarbeard finds out what ~else~ we intend to implement for the n+1th time
ben_vulpes: why split the patches, polarbeard, quit dodging the question.
polarbeard: why implementing toposort for the nth time
asciilifeform: i read the whole thing, still can't figure out the 'why'
polarbeard: make is a build tool, it can build the press
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 00:03:11; polarbeard: you need the diff splitter, splitdiff
ben_vulpes: if so easy to review, similarly easy to explain.
polarbeard: the script is 300 lines, not hard to review
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 23:55:19; polarbeard: there is no v
polarbeard: aggresive looks to the keyboard
ben_vulpes: editor of the dirigible
polarbeard: I use the only and true editor
asciilifeform: and too lazy to bust the idiot nagware
ben_vulpes: (or two man-years, yes)
ben_vulpes: "what, can't afford 10 dollars for your text editor?"
asciilifeform: emacs is a thick enough, barbed enough broomstick, that this is not hard to pull off
ben_vulpes: i routinely mock users who have the escape wired into their brains
ben_vulpes: lol over there too?
ben_vulpes: some "we're going to revolutionize editing text by pretending emacs was never a thing"
asciilifeform: sublime dicks, on the other hand, is mega-popular for some reason, colleagues had it and i lullzed seeing the nag popup interrupt their session
asciilifeform: i thought 'atom' was a www syndicatron thing
ben_vulpes: i'd wager this one uses Atom
ben_vulpes: you can smell the users of fashionable editors a mile away
ben_vulpes: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/90d9a921f084ed4ae942#file-buildgen-L30 << enough with the aligned shits
asciilifeform: a much stronger ownership than ANYBODY in usa has of ANY real estate
asciilifeform: whereas sov flat inhabitant could only be dislodged by death or prison term
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and not actually similar, even where exist. american 'sec 8' leprosoria are not in any sense whatsoever owned by the inhabitants
ben_vulpes: we have yet to arrive at state-issued flats for all but the most deeeeeserving of poor.
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 23:19:18; asciilifeform: incidentally 'predator' is a very slow machine, a toy chopper could quite likely catch up with it
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381723 << which is mind-boggling given the thing has a what turbofan? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 02-05-2014 03:15:33; asciilifeform: basic course on russian privatization. 'your formerly state-issued flat is now yours. you are a millionaire!' - 'neato. but my salary hasn't been paid in a year. gotta buy something to eat. what does dinner cost?' - 'half a million.'
asciilifeform: and now the rest, pay them rent.
asciilifeform: but somehow most ended up bought up by folks who didn't have to worry about eatin'
asciilifeform: ... ditto the flats, which were now owned by the residents, making 'insta-millionaires'
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2016 23:07:57; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: actually these are cheap, esp. in that when they explode, nobody's widow gets a pension
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381688 << 'tis just a step on the road to the obvious solution of entirely disposable versions of all the above ☝︎