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mircea_popescu: the problem of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817790 has a very ready converse, as i'm sure you realised. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2013-04-16 16:41 mircea_popescu: i wonder if he learns by it.
asciilifeform: i have him filed in my head as a victim of the 'goldbug disease' (i.e. pissed that btc stole 'their' lightning, in idjit tilt and consorting with enemy ever since )
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy that his links are https://archive.li/o/yNOSl/https://youexec.com/dev/2017/1/14/google-facebook-ads-traffic-is-useless rather than trilema.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/ trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/ etcetera, even though only some of the authors are experts in the field ; but then again ever since i knew him it was obvious he prefers the johny come
mircea_popescu: i just skimmed, saw "facebook is syphilis".
asciilifeform: i was not able to extract sense from it, reads like pure spamola
mircea_popescu: dude suffered for a while from this "i don't wanna X!!!" syndrome, as if anyone was in any danger of asking anything like it. "i don't wanna go to the prom!!!" "fatty... who's asking you to ?!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me the piece is pure wank, "here's things i say about women i supposedly fucked in the hope anyone reading thinks i ever get laid".
asciilifeform: in other entomo-horrors, https://archive.li/yNOSl << for all i ever said in defense of this d00d -- will have to take it back; he's gone full tard
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 5 hours and 24 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> i get eggog '#trilema-mod6 (Channel is invite only)'
mod6: baby, i've got a fever. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: there was another scandal where it was found that latrines clogged , never fixed, and the grunts shat right off the maintenance gangway onto the rocket. but i can't be arsed to dig for it.
asciilifeform: containing, i shit thee not, a twatter feed, even, with words '“The public was never in danger and the safety and security of the Minuteman system was never in doubt,” said Col. Matthew Dillow, 90th Missile Wing vice commander.'
asciilifeform: i have nfi. they're supposed to have a few choppers, apc's, etc. on top of the usual trucks.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell mod6 i get eggog '#trilema-mod6 (Channel is invite only)'
asciilifeform: shinohai: if yer gonna do the 'i have own parallel qntra' thing nao, at least try to 'scoop' the events ~before~
mircea_popescu: i thought you were complaining about having too much work. now not enough ?
trinque: looks like I got a few notices about them herping with NickServ
asciilifeform: incidentally asciilifeform was going through notebooks and found a theoretical nugget that iirc hasn't been posted. 1w of shortwave, using the error code discussed in prev thread, can propagate trans-continentally ( i.e. easily new york to montevideo ) . and can easily come out of unattended ( solar, thermal-charged ) box , at ~day intervals, hanging from tree in woods, illicitly glued into wall at tower construction site, etc
trinque: I said this in the log-line that linked it
asciilifeform: trinque: i was digesting the linked item as the product it offers, first
trinque: I proposed the manufacturing process for *drones*
mircea_popescu: trinque, i have serious reservations re an item with broken design. it's a little bit like reading ancient greek imaginary descriptions of places "they heard exist", i have trouble digesting.
mircea_popescu: so now i can't eat my soup anymore. "should i not have said anything ?"
mircea_popescu: for instance earlioer -- i was enjoying a bowl of delicious soup made yesterday. kitten slings by, pours herself a bowl too. then she discovers -- a dead beetle in there. it's beetle season, they're crazy. under pemra lights there's an inch thick beetle soil.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
asciilifeform: err, i put wrong link, lesseeee
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, specifically, "i expected something else". "but why did you expect ?" "What do you want me to do, sit ?!".
mircea_popescu: the cognitive articulation of the complaint is thus : 1. i understand deeply the trees of implications of a few simple rules (ref http://trilema.com/2018/technology-and-governance/ ) ; 2. i apprehend a novel object and create a mental model for it ; 3. i discover perceptible reality does not play well with the product of 2 ; 4. i complain.
asciilifeform: i did not say 'has no clue'. but observe, 'compains re manufacture difficulty' does happen in proportion to actual involvement with own hands.
asciilifeform: but if mircea_popescu says he did -- i'll believe him
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nevermind books printed. i had interests in ~all sorts~ of manufacturers aite ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes i'm aware that you had b00kz printed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, because i am the only one here who actually made physical objects in qty, lol
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't imagine anyone but alf could seriously contemplate the "fabrication difficulties". gimme a break, i can and have bought machining tools that'd have been worth "hal;f the empire" in 1935 for a pittance. they make complex shaped metal sheets, and are cheap as fuck
trinque: all I'm pointing to is the c&c milling + carbon fiber process he's using, not the design of the plane
asciilifeform: if it really does fly on toyota engine -- i promise to clap
phf: "month 12, i BingoBoingo will marry my daughter and with her start the most pure blood line" etc. etc.
BingoBoingo: Underprepared gringo runs off to orcistan, gets done in not by human hazards, but an ancient killer is what I am guessing
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 16:10 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I did indeed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun object in re the thermodynamics , but re the kinetics. we ain't there. yet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i'm just picking on him. but anyway -- very large leverages are in fact both experimentally demonstrated and theoretically predicted. and the "someone else" argument is not germane -- i didn't specify who joe is ; if you object to my presumption that you'd be willing to work by including you, by all means, we could say sally instead. you think that does anything ?
ben_vulpes: pricing details i mean
ben_vulpes: gonna work it more or should i pick it up from here? fine starting point i think (will wait for contradiction), i can fill in the details.
mircea_popescu: it is not. consider -- i can (even thouigh ben_vulpes apparently can't) spin up endless instances of whatever boxen, notwithstanding "such a thing as the self-packing os was posed by neumann and stays where it was posed" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: dude i couldn't care less what chinese are trying to emulate white man working economy on.
asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder whether mircea_popescu is posting from a far alt-fyootoor where software actually works, where robots actually maintain selves, rather than being the end product of 500 people working around the clock, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-26#935358 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: same thing you say, can and is said by today's neet. "i don't have microscope in house lel"
asciilifeform: i dun have a molybdenum mine in house. or the rest, etc
asciilifeform: and i think that's it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i think you misunderstood the "let's hunt".
mircea_popescu: whether you go "everyone takes exam, bottom 10% get hung by those poles in schoolyard" or you go "nobody has to do anything and i can't explain all this cutting and anorexia", it makes entirely no difference.
mircea_popescu: anyway --- if i ran the moscow polytechnic, the advertisement would have been "either make it in the 1% or else we will paradop you in america, or whatever other african shithole you belong to".
mircea_popescu: i just see it as wankers, the sort that could participate but doesn't.
asciilifeform: i usually picture 'whisperers' as , graphtheoretically, a noncomplete clique
mircea_popescu: or i'm sorry, venezuela, what was it. france.
asciilifeform: i still suspect that it would not have been winnable even if closer game ratiowise; it went almost like the smallpox-vs-indians item. orc konsoomer had no immune cells against veblenism and 200+yrs of fine chumpatronics perfected in the west
mircea_popescu: "i wonder why" etc.
mircea_popescu: i said before that the principal question of the 80s was "da-i romaneasca ?" ie, "but is it made here ?". this'd be why.
mircea_popescu: this is called "inefficiency", but it's not industrial inefficiency, it's socially-mediated pseudo-inefficiency created by the Ps deliberately (if "unknowingly") choking out I because they;'ve decided they want their country dead.
mircea_popescu: should you do that, you'll have a directly addressable measure of wrecking : the Ps will push the TR above the level where I can finance its import needs out of the receipts for its exports.
mircea_popescu: now, the needs of I are relatively fixed ; the "needs" of P vary. should P decide that it only wants import goods, you may be tempted to create a "tourist" rate for the foreign currency
mircea_popescu: suppose you have the following elements : I[ndustry], producing goods whichg can be exported and needing materials and equipment to be imported ; and P[opulace], expecting to be paid a living wage (anyone's pretense to the contrary are idle, all the advanced socialist peons want or ever wanted was "cash for being here", that'\s why socialist states even exist or ever existed, to provide that, from napoleonic france onward) an
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry. i mean, ~devaluation~ is always a camp phenomenoin.
mircea_popescu: rather, a "i don't know how to write sales copy" thing.
mircea_popescu: i doubt that. what was the black market dollar rate in 1985 moscow ?
asciilifeform: re upstack -- hey mircea_popescu , recall http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193376 ? i suspect that near-fyootoor usg-'regulated' 'market' will consist of 1 counter where wintel stock is dealt, where 'you can only buy' (or stand accused of 'manipulation', and another counter where bitcoin 'you can only sell' (or ditto), lol ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: admittedly knowing nuffin but what i can see through my telescope, all i see in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818015 is yet another moar explicit tightening of the noose ☝︎
mircea_popescu: oh i forgot to mention -- yest as i was moving about town somebody shot up the mexican embassy here
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818018 << i'm quite certain that they will have a show trial or two for 'putin's wreckers' who 'manipulated the price upward' ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i just sent you a moar detailed piece on same
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: the first day I felt compeltely relieved was ironically the day before I formally affiliated with a hospital here
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I did indeed ☟︎
mod6: I think I caught BB's cold. :[
BingoBoingo: I've just been plugging in the url and bingereading
trinque: I'd be happy to add it, but spyked, how's your rss bot coming along? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 13:46 asciilifeform: i mean for receiving. in re the 'some emitters are counters in pivapollo and lack dough'
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 09:42 ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817627, I think the text is too technical. This is my try: http://ave1.org/planding.html.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817939 << I don't think being too technical is necessarily a bad thing, but my own issue with ben_vulpes' original was that a) too 'cheesy' b) too much 'digging' to unearth the selling points. Conversely, I like how ave1's version is straight and to the point (e.g. bullet points of "why Pizarro" are front and center). Good skeleton imo ☝︎
mod6: ooh, i see the problem, I clicked the link from his posting above, which my browser added the '.' on the end of the .html - this resulted in a 404.
mircea_popescu: http://ave1.org/planding.html << i see it.
Mocky: I enjoy it very much. It seems worthwhile i guess having something to say.
mircea_popescu: though i like how you gave up any hope of "what does that mean, no approx" >D
mircea_popescu: (also, i hope everyone is reading pivopollo correctly as /pɪvopõʎɔ/, yes)
mircea_popescu: i didn't include a description of how lb works.
asciilifeform: i gotta rtfm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they have an automated escrow thing, see. localbitcoins i mean. here : 1. people tender offers ; 2. you close one ; 3. they either cancel or mark it as satisfied ; 4. you check and either release payment or dispute 3.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817947 << does this translate into the losse of 80% of the coin ? or do i misread ☝︎
asciilifeform: i mean for receiving. in re the 'some emitters are counters in pivapollo and lack dough' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: hey, now you know what i mean by intel / how reports look / stuffs and things.
mircea_popescu: currencies other than eur and usd were out of scope for this amusement, though i doubt there's much meaningful existence in the "currencies other than eur and usd" category.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is an absolute requirement for pizarro to maintain a localbitcoins account and sink in the required time to build itself a network of known-good users, as these in fact appear to exist, and may constitute humanity candidates / come in useful laterally.
mircea_popescu: (i ran 0.1 tests, so about 700 bucks. how a 10`000 sq foot of floor space electronics-and-white-goods specialist can not have made 700 bucks worth of sales by mid day is anyone's fucking guess. here is mine : nobody but me has any money.)
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817627, I think the text is too technical. This is my try: http://ave1.org/planding.html. ☝︎☟︎
esthlos: i've notices that the behaivor of sbcl and ccl for make-pathname is slightly different
esthlos: I'm not free again until Friday evening, so I won't be able to respond or do anything until then
esthlos: trinque phf et al: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/OYaGd/?raw=true << further steps on the vtron. currently it is freaking out when used with my ccl 1.11.5 . the make-temp-dir function phf provided throws an error on the first invocation, which prevents use as an executable, but oddly the function works if I return to the top level and then call it again.
mod6: i love this pic: a jar of pickled peppers? high heels, an empty plastic bag, and a map. Everything one needs!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 00:29 phf: hat time it was concluded that the effort of mac upkeep is not there, and i believe that's also when mp/diana decided to go with a custom protocol for a future non-crystal space implementation
phf: crystal space has some complicated, xml based module system, and planeshift, i believe, approached that module system not necessarily from first principles either. i couldn't really devote enough time (and i spent couple of weeks on the whole thing the first time as it is) to figuring out how the whole thing is supposed to come together. it's definitely possible to run it on mac, but the effort literally costs more than buying a dedicated linux box