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trinque: I can't argue perl or misc other isn't a dep, god knows what all is in there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to get a sense of what gets douchebag's pulse going, is all. cuz trb evidently doesnt
asciilifeform: douchebag: what actually interests you in a project ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's a powerful approach.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but it's just a sample of what works, not a mapping of what works.
mircea_popescu: the correct way would be to have a list of enumerated known-goods ; though this is understandably not done as it is -- because expensive. and satoshi didn't do it because he didn't even have any conception of dependency versioning.
trinque: there's a manifest in the deps dir
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the reason it was done this way originally was not a price consideration but forced societal insertion. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, afaik there isn't anywhere a complete list of specified versioning for trb, nor ever was.
mircea_popescu: yeah prolly about time he gets himself a bachelor pad. gotta be able to entertain the local cunt in style.
mircea_popescu: well, good thing you gave him a raise, just as this thing became one helluva anklet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( at one point i even spoke a word into it )
mircea_popescu: did you folk get him a phone or anything btw ?
mircea_popescu: the sort of guy who thinks like this also imagines the only reason he's not running an uruguay dc is because he didn't feel like trying, not because he doesn't have the juice in him to do it if he had a thousand years and the fed's own paper account at his disposal.
mircea_popescu lulz at the poor misfortunate cia strike team, belabouring in montevideo under the usual threat of "you never fucking know where that nut put a sleeper to shoot you in the face" and then stuck paying dollar-for-dollar import duty on all their spurious gear that doesn't even work AND THEN having to find a fucking spoke lost in transit locally and taking three weeks to still not do it.
mircea_popescu: to sell it has to be sold. no use trying anything else. to have clean sheets you must do a load, and to have sold items you must sell them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, rather the opposite problem : a stubborn refusal to properly sell fg has beheaded a few folk.
asciilifeform: hasn't made FG a heathen bestseller of yet
trinque: or was it a trilema
asciilifeform: here's a sample of convos b/w asciilifeform and heathens ( whom he knows irl, over yrs ) : 'why didja put it in UY, bw costs 4x moar than in usa and cia will still steal yer iron eventually' ; 'i have to do what!? to get server in the rack?!' etc ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 23:08 asciilifeform: trinque: really, you'd use a search box where you gotta log in, keep cookies, etc ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808457 << evidently it'd work as !Qsearch. what use is there for a web-based irc service anyway ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "full" text search is a misnomer, even. there's ways to construct conceptual search that anyone who's spent any time with dyslexic children intimately understands. words occur together in their own wot.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 23:04 trinque: asciilifeform: lobbes has his archival effort underway. iirc mircea_popescu had a thread with him on exactly this
lobbes: But yeah, as it stands now all I got is 50gb of downloaded-from-archive.is sitting on a ssd and a search of the url strings only
lobbes: I know ASTifying will be a goal. Full text search of contents idem
ben_vulpes: mp solved this in trilema aeons ago; pay some bitcents get a cookie
trinque: author could just as well publish a commandline util from which I query the archive, and it barfs up links I use in the browser
trinque: if it worked as described, and www were sorted via personhood and not pantsuit fake ad revenue, in a heartbeat I'd pay.
asciilifeform: trinque: really, you'd use a search box where you gotta log in, keep cookies, etc ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 04:54 mircea_popescu: lobbes implement a (paid) full text search, you'll be ahead of archive.is, amazon's webarchive and EVERYONE else.
asciilifeform: ( possibly i missed a moar general item )
trinque: asciilifeform: lobbes has his archival effort underway. iirc mircea_popescu had a thread with him on exactly this ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( a google-like 'index every flea on every mouse in every sewer' would be both infeasible and pointless; i was picturing something moar refined, e.g. 'N levels from roots provided by L2' )
asciilifeform: unrelated to anything specific , has mircea_popescu or other folx contemplated a tmsr www search machine ? because, potentially now there is a place for it to live
asciilifeform: when dupe mod is met with for a mod which has been previously phuctored, this registers as a 'broken key' event -- despite not being a 'new broken mod' event. this is correct operation. )
asciilifeform: ( to clarify ftr : a 'dupe mod' ( listed under /dupes ) is a mod that occurs in two or more distinct (hashwise, rather than fpwise, tho distinct fp is also possible on account of variant exponent under constant mod) pgp keyz.
asciilifeform: covers, what, almost a fifth of the rack rent
asciilifeform: box has a clock, but no battery
mircea_popescu: such a pleasure to watch this dough raise.
trinque: compiling the public information on a handful of packages really oughtn't be insurmountable
trinque: douchebag: I did put a negrate on the scales if I don't get that report. we had a wager after all.
douchebag: yeah my aplogogies, I've just been super busy lately with my job as well as getting a number of things situated in regards to me travelling Europe in about 5 weeks
asciilifeform experimentally ordered , from shitazon, a qty of jumper cables for connection of FG to rockchippen, to be mailed to BingoBoingo , claims they will be received by may the 10th ☟︎
ben_vulpes: so douchebag i set you up with a rockchip, what, thirteen days ago? assuming trinque is going to grace you the period until you had with what you claim you needed to do the promised research (which...mmmk), clock is fuckin tickin
mircea_popescu: douchebag, phuctor is a rsa super-collider, it uses some advanced maths to try and factor rsa keys. so far managed to factor about 2000. it needs to be fed, moduli. which is what you'd be doing, looking for all rsa moduli known to the internet. you understand what rsa is and how it works, what a modulus is, what N is and so on yes ? (if no -- straight to the library with you).
ben_vulpes: isn't he still on the hook for a trb dependency report?
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, ok, I'll take 1 rockchip with FG on a quarterly plan
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ( dun take as a flame necessarily ) but i gotta ask, how come the ttl cables stayed in usa when you went on the expedition ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: heh me too; $girl floated it as a destination again, although i'm more interested in the chilean border area
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform has a weakness for ye olde buenosaires )
ben_vulpes: i would dearly like to see a .arsventure out of herr BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: incidentally mircea_popescu if you know of suitable shops in buenos aires -- apparently they've cancelled the 'us passport entry fee' nonsense, so BingoBoingo could potentially go on the boat and do a supply run there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, alrighty, well, was just a stray thought.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaactually, erry orc with a 'lada' or whatever ancient jalopy for which new parts cannot be had ☟︎
Mocky: mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes got me set up with a web hosting account, thank you
asciilifeform: actually i had a thought, they MIGHT be in a souped-up-autos supplier
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: please send me a copy of the invoice; box in my inventory does not have such
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo put a heroic ( and continuing ) effort into uncovering the location of one, if such exists, so far with 0 result
mircea_popescu: you know there's a custom cnc mill here advertising in the street and nowhere else ?
mircea_popescu: no but i mean -- and far be it from me to inject idiocy into your process -- there HAS GOT to be a specialist electronics shop somewhere in there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: confirm that nope, the 1 and only proper comp shop in montevideo, lacks any notion of such a thing
asciilifeform: speaking of which : ben_vulpes , you should have a qty of usb-ttl cables in your inventory, that came with your FG deal; plz mail a dozen of them to BingoBoingo ( with invoice from shitazon re their cost; even if he gets hit with import tax, should add up to maybe tenbux )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 22:34 diana_coman: ben_vulpes, mod6 what's the price for a rockchip *with* fg as per asciilifeform's description above?
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, I want to rent a rockchip *with* fg please - http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1807153 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "when's the last time you saw bookshelves as a backdrop", https://78.media.tumblr.com/6d2b15606ff5d700d56a6604cf6649db/tumblr_onbxbw6UmJ1w8ffkko1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: if you make it mandatory, it goes to overhead ; complificates some edge cases (such as exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808174 ). whereas as optionality it's just that, a useful feature. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what, you have no trust we'll come to a fair and equitable solution or what is it.
mircea_popescu: some dood wants to bring a claim, this is the place, let him bring the claim what.
mircea_popescu: mod6, not like we don't have a tried and working method of dispute resolution.
trinque: with a way to change it
mircea_popescu: trinque, i can see it. another way would be to require everyone to register a bitcoin address, autoflush to that if need be.
mircea_popescu: that if you ask in such a way as works and ben_vulpes feels like it you get your userdig tar'd and rsa'd to your key.
asciilifeform: considering that a box that 'cannot access' but not yet deleted is scarce resource that cannot be sold to new client
mircea_popescu: this is THE reason wot is "not mechanical" as a point of policy, long discussed but a while ago.
mircea_popescu: i can for instance cleanly see the case where guy not-in-l1 has a powerful neg on some rando ; i can also see the case where petty bickering among say irl acquaintances will be reduced to silence under wot pressure. and so on.
asciilifeform: i dun dispute the principle; but gotta actually lay it out in the l0gz, and in such a way that takes into account the ease of changing faces
asciilifeform: i suppose if adlai or karpeles or whoever wants to put on a mask and pretend to be a eulora-playing tits chix for years, there's no real damage ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6, any lord, was the thinking. though even if it's not a lord, there'd be some splainin' to do.
asciilifeform: btw i'd rather learn the answer to this nao than later, so will ask, does mircea_popescu want to give a list of folx other than adlai whose money aint welcome ? or is this list identical to folx he's negrated; or some other formula.
ben_vulpes: UY1 is currently an 'l2 only' tool, so definitionally everyone's gotta be at least gotta have a newblood rating
mircea_popescu: Mocky, you can self-voice, say !!up to deedbot in a pm
asciilifeform: when dealing with heathens, hard caps is a must
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:07:03: <mircea_popescu> tell you what, i'll buy you shared hosting on pizarro's server for the rest of the year, you get a blog up there and publish the foregoing. how about that ?
ben_vulpes: it is a maaarvel
asciilifeform: ( will have to make a slightly complicated change and test locally, because current 'rss is simple sql query' doesn't rate-limit the output of 1-factor-N-moduli-affected events )
mircea_popescu: aite, so do it every half hour until such a time as you rewrite the rss ?
mircea_popescu: they "never got a chance, that's all they wanted, a honest to god shot" dontchaknow.
mircea_popescu: it's not nearly as good a solution, but if you must.
asciilifeform: sorta why i suggest to allocate a night with low activity , to shit'em all out in 1 go
mircea_popescu: there's no objective need it should do two dozen items each 9 minutes. could just do a count.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the problem is rather, that it makes too many lines. have it rss a single thing each interval : "x keys broken".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, bitcoin.com is roger ver's last remaining claim to fame, "oh, i registered a domain name".
trinque: Framedragger: oughta dig yourself out of pantsuit europussy for a sec and come enjoy teh phuctoring
asciilifeform: re : phuctor : this is approx what i expected. incidentally , the bottleneck is ~still~ in inputting keys, rather than crunching'em ( they all get crunched at once, and it takes about 45min from start to finish, erry time ) . however no longer much of a bottleneck, all of the remaining Framedragger archive should be done by... saturday night, at current rate
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 05:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re sample, doth http://trilema.com/2018/must-suck-to-be-one-of-you-average-guy-with-a-great-sense-of-humor-losers-seriously-now/#selection-125.122-125.138 not satisfy ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, really, 25 is too old. the amount of cockroaches they ingested by that age makes fixing a losing proposition. << werd to that. anyway, the retort made me lul, muchly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re sample, doth http://trilema.com/2018/must-suck-to-be-one-of-you-average-guy-with-a-great-sense-of-humor-losers-seriously-now/#selection-125.122-125.138 not satisfy ? ☟︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-02 00:55 mircea_popescu: then he later paid a further .4 for a fg bundle, taking nsa to .9 worth of convertible bonds, ie a ~7,5% holderr as th9ings stand
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1807803 << would be veerry entertaining to read a sample of this, if mircea_popescu has one handy ☝︎