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mircea_popescu: fromdeedbot, you can't register this nick ; pick a better one. then say !!register and your fingerprint.
ben_vulpes: fully-rented 4u of this would bring us to breakeven at $50/mo, but demands 100% occupancy, otoh that's only 25% of 16U rockchip plant occupancy. so, i don't see a really compelling case for bringing the price down much further.
mircea_popescu: and he wanted a bitcoin miner. this is higher btc/watt
ben_vulpes: looks like the monthly cost basis, assuming a 1-yr amortization horizon is 18.35 usd
mircea_popescu: moreover alf has a solid point. you have 0 interest in dealing with local orcs. there's a reason chinese soy farm in africa dun sell soy to africans.
ben_vulpes: fromdeedbot: a) the whole name is tab-completable and should be used b) it's really not that hard dood
danielpbarron: i just gave a shoutout to pizarro on l0de
fromdeedbot: @ben the process of registering a key
asciilifeform: selling to locals might actually be a dangerous liability, for all we know they have 'legal rights' to xyz
trinque: or one of you folks, but they already heard from him a few times.
fromdeedbot: i'm hoping that this system will be streamlined a bit
trinque: considered getting a... UY-facing marketing effort going?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aside from the fact that nobody has any such thing to send... there's 2.5kW iirc in the rack, of which maybe half a kw is actually drawn. so in principle such a thing could.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nobody's going to send a proper miner to fucking uruguay. you don't even have the power for it there.
ben_vulpes: fromdeedbot: so reg a key, rent a rockchip
mircea_popescu: a cool.
fromdeedbot: ty i ahve been reading them off and on for a few months
ben_vulpes: heh i actually have this usb thinger sitting unused i got as a wedding present forever and a day ago
asciilifeform: tho if we had a miner, it'd be tempting item to install while there's still mains current capacity left over that is already being paid for. tho of course nobody has a miner, not for many years.
ben_vulpes: yeah but gimme a break, none of the shitcoins are going to work on anything but ubuntu and with a gui
ben_vulpes: this is grade a shitcoin walletfarm fodder
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for about 100bux you can try it yourself, using http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 and a home rockchip.
ben_vulpes: laugh a little wouldja
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i can give a floor. a rc is about 100bux, with the usbstick. chassis, let's say 400. beefy 5v ps : 200. cabling, negligible, but for pessimism say 100.
mircea_popescu: filling that thing 4 u at a time will take like a dozen fucking trips lol.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you pull a number for per-u fab cost out of your rear?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: baggage holds 4u of machine; there is no practical way to get >24 units of rockchip into a 1u , per my reckoning
mircea_popescu: you however -- you're a wolf rider not a cyclops, if you ever played heroes 3. gotta run there and hit something.
mircea_popescu: you put a buncha stuff in log above.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the logic being that you're being eaten away at the rate of what, 5% each month ? you can either wait a year and a half to die or sally forth and meet the enemy.
ben_vulpes: i have seen this, and it was a mistake to not follow suit.
mircea_popescu: minigame has a similar item, whereby the fact that players bought ECu does not immediately translate to a gain for minigame. there's >100 btc's worth sloshing around in there.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-4#350180 << aah, this makes sense. a liability, effectively. so i'll hafta rework this whole thing.
lobbes: Hey, I'm a customer myself!
lobbes: Anyways, I guess I'm saying I wouldn't mind trying to sell a product I actually -believe is good-
lobbes: "Ask this old lady if she wants a credit card!!" "Ugh.. I'm sure she does not need any moar credit"
lobbes: I was told I was "good at selling myself, so I should do the same for their "products"". Difference was I thought all their 'products' were useless and not needed (this was a retail bank teller job)
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, pizarro absolutely needs a star salesman.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:21 mircea_popescu: in front of this, whether we idly decide that he's just dumb or actually evil, ie, his brain dun work like in the case of say bernstein ; or his brain doth work, but he deliberately attempts to shannonize republican words into imperial outcomes, a la curtis yarvin, jwz, whatever.... well what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with giving it a try ; who knows, you discover a talent -- often people don't know they're great at X thing because of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806663 problem, all "practicians" in the field are boecks. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, honestly i'd start planning for the next trip. understand the simple fact of the matter : if you manage to get pizarro 300 rockchips racked, you've produced at least a coupla bitcoin's value for it.
lobbes: I don't know sales, but I know heathens; I wager those rockchips will be a way easier sell than the shared hosting, for e.g.
asciilifeform: i spammed a buncha academitards, with the predictable silence as the output
asciilifeform: it quite easily could. esp. if i can get a hold of aluminum chassis.
mircea_popescu: at least now you have a driver. you want a plan, web support, and sales people to push this. you know what you're pushing at least.
asciilifeform: ( uy customs doesn't give half a shit re anyffing 1u-shaped, apparently , regardless of internals )
asciilifeform: ( i had to put on a quite vigorous juggling show just to get my 6 unmolested in )
mircea_popescu: what's a rockchip actually cost i forget ? like 30 bux + the ssd ?
mircea_popescu: if i were you folk i would very seriously be looking at geting refinanced, taking ~300 rockchips there and filling a dozen us with them. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (unbuilt !! yet) adult plant puts 24 in a 1u
asciilifeform: well sounds ok until realize that we gotta make a qualitative breakthrough somehow in heathendom; i suspect that l1 is tapped out
asciilifeform: prolly i made a numeric mistake somewhere, will let ben_vulpes confirm
ben_vulpes: i gotta step away for a spell but will come back and address
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, you're confusing the concept of par value for shares (which is 0.00001 considering you issued 1.1mn on 11 btc capital) with book value per share, a different item.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, more shockingly, can you explain how the hell you folks posted a 0.55620116 ebidta gain this period ? i mean i get it, sold .4 worth of equity ; but the rest ?!
asciilifeform: i am making a wwwistic calculator thing, ben_vulpes ; do you have the price table (usd) and current # of subscribers for each type, handy ?
mod6: lol, overall, a push I suppose.
mod6: Oh, on the good side today! I went to that .ua place again for a fantastic ruben... and bought some of their sweet italian sausages, and smoked cheddarworst.
ben_vulpes: this is very much not standard practice tho, and imho better to show a conservative estimate of what assets are (losing value month by month) than to inflate possibly controversially the valance sheet
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Sorry about the join/parts. I will put a bouncer on the punch list. Moved the terminal to do some relaxed balcony computing only to discover this weekend's crowd is a bunch of non-verbal retards here for some sort of convention.
ben_vulpes: could i possibly induce you to set up a bouncer on the shared machine so i can tabcomplete your name after you close your laptop?
BingoBoingo: Take your time, do math, and come up with a counter offer.
BingoBoingo: ^ ben_vulpes mod6 asciilifeform I have proposed a start for negotiations on a compensation package through February 2019 for your consideration here: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/#fn1-1909 ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 13:15 asciilifeform: ( ieee floats are in effect a demented, drooling integer stack which ~pseudorandomly skips bits )
ben_vulpes: next month this all goes into a database
trinque: isn't a programming environment sure, batshit language, yes, but all *these* sorts of problems were worn off by the flow of industry over the surface
ben_vulpes: genuinely thought that i had forgotten my kindergarten subtraction algorithms for a moment
ben_vulpes: i have a (setf *read-default-float-format* 'double-float) in my .sbclrc
ben_vulpes: see the line i sent to candi_lustt just a moment ago
trinque: could fire up a maxima
ben_vulpes: of course satoshi had to pick a number of decimals guaranteed to break everything in the world.
asciilifeform: ^ claims delivery guarantee of may the 7th. if this worx, then it is a viable means of getting (small/inexpensive) items into BingoBoingo's orbit.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 19:29 asciilifeform experimentally ordered , from shitazon, a qty of jumper cables for connection of FG to rockchippen, to be mailed to BingoBoingo , claims they will be received by may the 10th
asciilifeform: ( you still get the down side of 'N nodes hanging off a single mains supply' but avoid the hit of 'N nodes in single ip blok' )
asciilifeform: lobbes, other trbists : another thing that worx, is the combo of pizarro node piped through a cheapo heathen relay-only box.
lobbes ended up getting a cheap dedi out in kansas or w/e for 25 bezzlebux. Soley for trb-ing. Drawback is it has hdd, but going to try and use the aggressive pushgetblocks patch. Seems like diana_coman had nice results with similar experimentation
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:52 mircea_popescu: in the end we came up with a wetware replacement for having to write python wrappers for sql. GO A TEAM!
asciilifeform: trinque: this is a-ok, it it cached.
mircea_popescu: in the end we came up with a wetware replacement for having to write python wrappers for sql. GO A TEAM! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: oh and a spiffy thing that is indeed! i'm like an eagle with my comments now.
mircea_popescu: middle class, you know ? it's a thing.
mircea_popescu banged plenty of what locally counted for middle class gals who nevertheless maintained the pretense on 5-600 a month.
asciilifeform: as i recall the obstacle was, however, that BingoBoingo would have to front a month of its cost ? or what was it
asciilifeform: ( considering that a fairly decent flat can be had ~already~ for cost of the cowork desk + fleapit )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 02:38 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, the reason it was done this way originally was not a price consideration but forced societal insertion.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809504 << it's a reference to german colonialism. basically, "settlement allowance" or w/e. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, yeah but i mean, i paid quarterly as a rule, and it was exceptional. they generally do monthly payments. the wisdom of doing 3 year lump sum payments to spanish speaking peoples is debatable in any case.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew. << I did hear about a 'girl', which I was happy to hear! I just didn't know what 'shore leaves' was. Had to do 3 minutes of gymnastics. This is about comms with mod6.
asciilifeform: supposedly, for low 5fig one can even purchase outright a building in that town.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your figure is approx correct, based on various 'find a flat' www that BingoBoingo had found.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 18:04 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809228 << Water heater, all of the furnishings, several kinds of deposits. From there a flat incurs utility bills and "gastos communes" monthly. Then there is the matter of whether it is Pizarro's apartment of Bingo's apartment. I am also a bit apprehensive about personally signing yet another 24 month contract totaling in the 5 figure USD range while so much of Pizarro is still being done on a month
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809491 << from experience the (complete) cost for a http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/ locus, ie, 2/3 bedroom apt, is somewhere around 8-9k/year. notrly reaching into five figures, is it ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> what is a 'shore leaves' ? << At some point, usually 7 days after the last bang session the peruana starts to feel abandoned and to keep her available I have to find a place to bang her out. For a while the Cowork bathrooms were adequate for this purpose, but after one particularly energetic night/morning using the Cowork bathrooms for exercise became untenable. And people at the hostel gotta sleep. Thusly on day 8 or 9 I get a
asciilifeform: mod6: BingoBoingo devoted a great deal of space to the subj in own www and in the logs, i assumed , imho justifiably, that you knew.
mod6: You're saying, every eight or nine days, you need to get a hotel room to bang some girls.
mod6: what is a 'shore leaves' ?
asciilifeform: mod6: theoretically i 'shouldn't have to' lug 100kg of iron in a cart across 2 continents, but sometimes gotta do things 'shouldn't have to', lol
BingoBoingo: screeching monkeys are more like a one weekend out of every two sort of deal. I stress more over decisions like "when am I going to replace my pants (all of them) with ones that fit?"
mod6: Lol, oh yeah, i hear ya. I'm not disputing the need for a 'flat' or whatever, just trying to make sure I understand these points being made.
asciilifeform: would like a place to live, where the door closes, like you and i have.