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pete_d_out isn't caught up on logs, isn't sure what nubbins` is referring
to.
phf: i
thought cars are
typically books-on-tape
territory
☟︎ nubbins`: lords care not whether
their presence "confuses
the noobs"; such reasoning is unfit for discourse
nubbins`: speak now if you believe a lord
that has contributed
TRB patches, who owns
the second-largest s.mg stock warrant, who
trades in
the only physical collectibles
that are priced solely in BTC, who pays
the bill for eulora.org, who is
the republic's de facto minister of letters awaiting with bated quill
the whittling-down of a codebase fit
to publish, should be stripped of his
title; speak your
treason now,
that all may witness it.
☟︎☟︎ shinohai: "Damn, we're 1 brick short of finishing
this house" "I have a Nokia!"
nubbins`: as a lord of bitcoin,
tmsr~, cognizant of
the responsibilities
that my words
thusly carry, i hereby solemnly rebuke any attempt
to strip me of my lordship.
☟︎ pete_d_out: standing
there or sitting
there, hunched over with
the stupid i-thing 12" in front of your face because it's 'convenient' instead of walking over
to desktop or laptop or god forbid waiting until you get home. ~that's~
the killer.
phf: well,
that's not a reason i use mine. i spend so much
time on
technology, i require explicit and often prolonged periods of disconnect
to stay healthy
pete_d_out: i
toyed with
the idea of dumbphone mebbe
assbot: Logged on 09-02-2016 13:16:19; asciilifeform: nah
thats what ipnohe is for
mod6: whacha
tryin
to do?
TomServo: Like
trimming
the last entry, or checking for consecutive hours?
mod6 has rather enjoyed
the crypto discussion in
the last number of days.
pete_d_out: just another example of you being born
too late !
pete_d_out: asciilifeform and chinese grad student mighta had a few hundred contacts even, but
tens of
thousands ??
pete_d_out: or
to quote dr. zhivago, 'it's more just
this way'
pete_d_out: speaking of 'sensitive material', what ever came of
that little dispute with your hosting co. over
the sipa hit, mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: but getting back
to it,
the point i want made is
that EXP-* inclusion beats NP inclusion.
mircea_popescu: it's not programmable quite
to your
taste, but it does deal in reals.
mircea_popescu: again and again we come
to
the "will need nre hardware"
thing
mircea_popescu: and know
to be harder
than p is a more valuable proof for our interest
than known
to be in np.
mircea_popescu: by which i mean, known
to be harder
than p.
this is proven.
mircea_popescu: or
to get back
to exponential space problems : "decide first order logic propositions with real numbers, adition and comparison" is a very hard problem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it is, in point of fact, a
TERNARY NUMERIC SYSTEM MATRIX
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform go is convenient
tho because so close
to a matrix.
mircea_popescu: and
take Stearns-Hartmanis, you know for a fact
that all EXPs are actually NOT in P
mircea_popescu: (note
that "beating a human" is not equivalent
to solving
this. if it were...)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform come
to
think of it :
take a matrix, set it
to go pieces, calculate
the value of
the position.
mircea_popescu: iirc all exp- are proven not in P. which is better
than what is known for np.
mircea_popescu: expspace for instance. everyone's fixated on exponential run
time
pete_d_out: actually working a "news" piece
that i'd give
to qntra but i... don't have my keys. so
to contravex it goes.
pete_d_out: shinohai even a few weeks early, i'll
take it. cheers ;)
mircea_popescu: man fucking schneier is intolerable. i can pick out his lines even without looking at attribution. his entire output comes out of a
tiny fucking word grinder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally ... what about
the set of ultra np ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect it goes deeper
than
that. something something entropy/and/bandwidth
mircea_popescu: 1998-10-30 Douglas A. Gwyn: "...I can exhibit
the design for a block cipher
that is demonstrably secure according
to
the rules of
the game, although it wouldn't be *practical*." << you should write
to him,
too.
mircea_popescu: if you have ciphers A B C with block lengths lA lB lC,
then
the chaining should be applied in such order
that l1 > l2 > l3.
mircea_popescu: also i should like
to propose a lemma :
that chaining should always proceed
TOWARDS SMALLER BLOCKS
mircea_popescu: anyway. aes and des should be excommunicated out of everything asap,
there's no
two ways about it.
mircea_popescu: yet somehow
the decades passed for no benefit and idiots still pretend like it's never happened. outrageous.
mircea_popescu: apparently all
the stuff i proposed as common sense was in point of fact common sense plainly said on public list 20 years ago.
mircea_popescu: in case any noobs be wondering why it even is
triple-DES : doubleDES(plaintext)=plaintext.
mircea_popescu: and
there DOES exist such a
technique as mathematical induction