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asciilifeform: y'know, the 1917 wave, where 'let's kill landlord and divide the lands', it at least obeyed conservation of mass. 'erryone deserves phree palace' is next level of wtf. who is to provide, martians ?
mp_en_viaje: stjohn_piano_2, http://edgecase.net/ << is this modelled visually after trilema ?
mp_en_viaje: imo each and all forever and always "made sense" only like the latter. from late 1700s french nonsense to 1800 italian lulz, all through the johhny come latelyes in anglo and russoworld.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, which portion of socialism do you say made sense like the former rather than like the latter ?
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, you can't crown yourself king in places that aren't kingdom. the only thing you can crown yourself, or be crowned for that matter, in new zealand is scapegoat. which isn't the sort of crowning anyone who's not actually a biological goat is interested in.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: robber getting run over by train because he thought could hop on, 'makes sense' . terry davis getting run over cuz he thought train was an angel coming to take him to st peter's gate, doesn't rise even to the level, it requires being a terry davis to grasp
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 16:50 asciilifeform realizes that he hasn't the faintest clue re nz, never could even be arsed to see aerial map of it. pictures it as a sort of larger falklands.
mp_en_viaje: today;s socialism continues that tradition, in exactly the same way, through new forms.
mp_en_viaje: exactly what you'd expect of a "partido marxista-leninista-maoista", the theory of the squatting and "criticism of unbridled capitalism"
a111: Logged on 2019-03-25 16:40 asciilifeform: oblig : 'Всіх панів до ’дної ями, Буржуїв за буржуями Будем, будем бить! Будем, будем бить!'(tm)(r)(pavlo tichina)(ukr)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can grasp the 'old world socialism', where http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-25#1904728 ; i dun really grasp ~these~, they dun even make surface sense to the uninitated ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: diff shows "Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)" as the only difference.
mp_en_viaje: really, 100% tardstalk but in this guise of "every moron that should have been hanged is a point of interest and nothing else really matters"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, lengthy interviews with morons living in social dwellings as if they were people, pretentious if ineptly constructed "studies", discussions of "the potentials and limits of legality -- how to construct the altcoin irl"
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: when i run your command there, I get: "gpg: encrypted with RSA key, ID C8EFFF13, gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available"
mp_en_viaje: they were very bothered by my cheesing & wineing the two sluts.
mp_en_viaje: including printed matter about "real estate justice" in the typical argentine style, the works.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, 100% borderline sleeve priceless cuntlets and their typical cultural and civilisational environs.
stjohn_piano_2: ah ty
mp_en_viaje recently took girls at local argentine-style socialist hq here in romania. if the argentines were totally useless retards, they'd make the place an embassy. but of course they are totally useless retards.
stjohn_piano_2: i'll try that
asciilifeform: if you have the key you regged with, it'll go
stjohn_piano_2: well, i'm using the sequences i developed in
stjohn_piano_2: i had some prepared commands, but i'm having some trouble decrypting the otp.
asciilifeform: http://edgecase.net/articles/offline_installation_of_a_c_compiler_on_centos_69_minimal_on_kalkin << tried 'cuntoo' yet ?
deedbot: asciilifeform rated stjohn_piano_2 1 << temp voice / new blood
asciilifeform: !!rate stjohn_piano_2 1 temp voice / new blood ☟︎
stjohn_piano_2: i made this current key my communications agent via this contract: http://edgecase.net/articles/contract_0
stjohn_piano_2: i have registered my communications public key with deedbot. my master public key (which is nearly 2 years old, timestamped in the Bitcoin blockchain) is http://edgecase.net/articles/public_key_identity_document_stjohn_piano
stjohn_piano_2: i've read a lot of the logs
stjohn_piano_2: my name is stjohn piano. i run edgecase.net, which offers several services that may be of interest to people here.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: plox to say quickly who you are, and what biz you have here.
stjohn_piano_2: thanks asciilifeform for the !!up
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether mp_en_viaje ever said anyffin re how it fell of his list. ( if above theory correct, mp_en_viaje could even nao have himself crowned king there etc )
asciilifeform realizes that he hasn't the faintest clue re nz, never could even be arsed to see aerial map of it. pictures it as a sort of larger falklands. ☟︎
asciilifeform: rright, subj d00d accused of trotsk^H^H^H^H^H^H'islamophobic' plot
mp_en_viaje: fwiw, we could note the dispute is strictly internal socialist dispute, the ultra-reds "terroristed" the moderate-blue group.
asciilifeform: iirc the argies also thought 'no one will want falklands' tho.
mp_en_viaje: i imagine the arabs. nfi tbh.
asciilifeform: who wants nz tho. ( chinese ? )
mp_en_viaje: after which, no more new zealand government, for at least three-four decades. haiti-like.
mp_en_viaje: anyway. all it'd take is the deliberate execution of about 5 new zealand govt batausi.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, nobody happens to want ny.
asciilifeform: i recall this
mp_en_viaje: chirstchurch is a smallish town, ironically on the short list of possible mp migration spots lo many years ago.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, christchurch isn't the nz capital. look over at tripoli lulz.
mp_en_viaje: "an athenian woman once asked gorgo, how come spartans are the only greeks who respect women ???"
mp_en_viaje: socialisms just don't grow men, what's so hard about this ?
asciilifeform: somewhat diff. proposition from abandoning christchurch or washington, neh. if abandon capital, they may as well wagner/cyanide
mp_en_viaje: see, it's not "collaborators" that are needed. it's people brave enough to go into room and maybe get shot. for pantsuitism! where the fuck can such be had ? russia couldn't produce anymore for afghanistan than usg could for vietnam.
mp_en_viaje: this guess is also well buttressed by texas, new mexico, arizona and southern california "law enforcement" experience -- all it took for the usg to abandon the southern provinces was for the cartel to frown.
mp_en_viaje: it's my guess that systematically shooting about 15% or so of the first line troops would result in >80% deserion rate. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: 30 sounds about right. That's a classroom. Probably a safety in numbers thing.
mp_en_viaje: count the hands. rape the girl, then break the arms off the 2-3 brave/irrational idiots and bash their heads in with them
mp_en_viaje: do this experiment : walk up to kids gathered on college campus, ask "how man yof you would fight me if i raped this girl ?"
mp_en_viaje: absolutely never. i npoint of fact im not so sure about the 30.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what makesya think 'irreplaceable' ? there's always collaborators to be had
mp_en_viaje: seems typical besieged cavalry behaviour, "if we charge now we charge now, and if we wait till tomorrow we charge with hungrier horses"
mp_en_viaje: kinda how i explain this sort of behaviour. if you were a deeply unpopular, and irredeemably, unfixably unpopular tyranny, and all you had were two sets of reserves for your 30-man strong repressive police, wouldn't YOU go all out ?
a111: Logged on 2015-03-26 20:43 asciilifeform: one to break doors, gates; one to threaten bystanders, if any, with 'accidental' fire; one to shoot; and perhaps one with a cage that arrestee -might- be permitted to surrender into, if the bot's voice-recognition system works and if orders included a possible live capture
asciilifeform: in usa, 'future of policing' is prolly http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-26#1072977 ; in usg periphery like nz, i expect soon enuff they'll just drop 500kg bomb from air and write down 'today neutralized terrorist compound' etc ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Whereas pretext and "war on pretext" lets the derealization continue over a few body piles.
mp_en_viaje: especially because should someone shoot a few sets of 30 stooges, that'd be strictly speasking the end of pantsuit government in the island. permanently.
BingoBoingo: Right. Skipping the pretext and rolling up with 30 stooges seems an expensive option.
BingoBoingo: US uses pretext though.
asciilifeform: seems like nz is 'behind the curve' vs usa. here they simply show up an' machinegun yer cardboard house from 2 sides and ~then~ search
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/05/cold-dead-hands-new-zealand-swat-teams-start-overwhelming-force-gun-confiscation-raids/ << Qntra -- Cold Dead Hands? New Zealand SWAT Teams Start "Overwhelming Force" Gun Confiscation Raids
asciilifeform: it's merely tip of a stupidity iceberg that goes all the way down to fucking cthulhu at bottom of the sea
mp_en_viaje: not really got the time to look into digital etymology right nao, but pretty fucking stupid.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, my archive aparently uses the 1st one ; google apparently uses the 2nd one.
mp_en_viaje: why the fuck are there two ambiguous minuscule chis ?!
asciilifeform wonders wtf the asker was thinking
BingoBoingo: And we appear to have an ethically sourced, wild caught question in the Qntrmments http://qntra.net/2019/05/semiconductor-market-headed-towards-downturn-as-more-intel-data-leak-flaws-emerge/#comment-129460
asciilifeform: 'brilliant biznis model', i suppose. 'let's lift text and inject ads'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-15 06:38 mp_en_viaje: bitcoinrabbithole.org/writings/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ imagine that shit, and then http://archive.is/IqhDe#selection-605.1-607.13 (fancy that wonder, i'm the #1 author, with 6 "works" to nic carter's 5.)
asciilifeform: cuz, evidently, uni-sad, cut off a 0xfe or what was the leading char
mp_en_viaje: cut is right through the greek word.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, check this out : line ends up cut, so therefore utf meaning gets fucked.
mp_en_viaje: cognate of ϰλιρουόμος, and not FROM it, because at the time greece did not exist, and most of the elite greeks lived in istanbul and in current romania. we could rigurously say ϰλιρουόμος
asciilifeform: i suspect mp_en_viaje's term settings but cannot immediately guess wtf
mp_en_viaje: what the holy fuck. so 1st line above is exact repost of logline original ; 2nd line is paste of content
mp_en_viaje is reading "old" ie early 19th century romanian matter ; whenever has to look up words, discovers the ONLY example usage available is taken from the very text he's working on, often enough the EXACT context. eg, clironomie is, technically, a romanian word (cognate of ϰλιρουόμος, and not FROM it, because at the time greece did not exist, and most of the elite greeks lived in istanbul and in current romania. we could rigurously say ϰÎ
asciilifeform: and on several diff terminals.
mp_en_viaje: both tho ? and in log too ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ~this~ one displays tho.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 08:52 mp_en_viaje is reading "old" ie early 19th century romanian matter ; whenever has to look up words, discovers the ONLY example usage available is taken from the very text he's working on, often enough the EXACT context. eg, clironomie is, technically, a romanian word (cognate of ϰλιρουόμος, and not FROM it, because at the time greece did not exist, and most of the elite greeks lived in istanbul and in current romania. we could rigurously say ϰÎ
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913541 << btw i see a http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1532187 . on what sorta box didja greek this in ☝︎☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/domestic-casting/ << Trilema -- Domestic casting
diana_coman: hm, poor as in "only one use for such word" ? perhaps that specific work is in fact available online hence the example usage from it?
mp_en_viaje is reading "old" ie early 19th century romanian matter ; whenever has to look up words, discovers the ONLY example usage available is taken from the very text he's working on, often enough the EXACT context. eg, clironomie is, technically, a romanian word (cognate of ϰλιρουόμος, and not FROM it, because at the time greece did not exist, and most of the elite greeks lived in istanbul and in current romania. we could rigurously say ϰΠ☟︎
asciilifeform finally got recursive bracket regexing to work in the motherfucking geshi pile o'shit
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in archaeology, apparently possible to enable eccism-with-amd-fx on certain board which route the pins but have retarded bios.
asciilifeform: related lul from last time i was there : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/umd_book_lulz.jpg
mp_en_viaje: a, now that may be it.
lobbes: they'd also, of course, offer "student discounts" on the "educational versions"
a111: Logged on 2019-05-15 16:35 asciilifeform: at one time i tried to find out who. apparently in world of printing (i.e. where 'colour calibrations' etc) it is monopoly, the presses for last decade or so demand adobism
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-15#1913507 << baked into the universities as well. I remember when I was in school they had entire multi-semester courses in the "Graphic Design" track for adobeolade; "Adobe Photoshop Intro", "Adobe Photoshop Advanced" etc.. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: i tell you i don't see it.
asciilifeform: iirc adobe also 'market leader' in the 'retouch undesirable people out of photos / put obama in' , aka 'news' , tooling.
asciilifeform: entirely even possible that they add up to moar dough than the advercrap etc