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asciilifeform: phf: actually i see him as something more like a lacan who dropped out of physics, or the like
asciilifeform: but these possibly can be commoditized into a thing that contains no logic as such
assbot: Ladar Levison - As many of you already know, the government cited... ... ( http://bit.ly/1XwzoCG )
asciilifeform: 'Inspired by Julian Oliver's psworld, psplague further explores the links between environment (simulation) and code. Rather than mapping a computer's internal processes onto visual features in the world (as in the case of psworld), in this instance (psplague) UNIX-like processes are attached to medieval villagers within a simple SIR (susceptible, infected, recovered) model of plague infection. When a villager becomes infected
asciilifeform: t barely touch the skin of the hand. The repetitive rhythms of changing operational codes, as an application for example initialises its opening state, are translated into the hypnotic, up and down movements of the needle (making use in the second prototype of a CD-ROM ejection mechanism), appearing somewhat like the slowed, jerked motions of a sewing machine.'
asciilifeform: e' (whilst a common program such as the Firefox web browser is running) into the slow and painful inscription of a needle, piercing the skin of the operator or user's hand. A particular, common operational code such as that dictating the movement of the contents of one place in memory to another location, results in the needle achieving a certain depth in the hand, another opcode, say demanding the addition of two values, migh
asciilifeform: 'The Dark Interpreter is influenced and guided by body capacitance, skin resistance, biological micro-voltages and the fleshy conduction of all signals. These are ways of saying that the Dark Interpreter is completely open. It is not to be considered as a closed and bounded device which is subject to an exterior control "by the body." The Dark Interpreter is an electronic and thus earthy shadow of the body, it is (inside) the
asciilifeform: though i know him as '1010'
asciilifeform: as in, toggle buttons.
asciilifeform: i've thought for many years about such tools. decomputerize, if you will, as much of the critical 'nuke launch' loop as possible.
funkenstein_: hehe, likely guilty as charged
asciilifeform misreads as 'wordstar hiphop'
mod6: I'd even say TomServo or thestringpuller would be good candidates as well. Any wot regs.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, currently nodes only need disk ; cpu is wasted. ideally a node should use both, so that it makes sense to keep boxes as relay nodes.
mircea_popescu: it does. i specifically left the "hashing" undefined. it can be defined so both use sha3. or first stays as is and 2nd sha3. etc.
mircea_popescu: BOTH hash 1 and hash 2 have to be under a number to qualify as a found block.
mircea_popescu: ok. so currently, for every block being mined : a header is calculated ; to this a nonce is added, the combine hashed. the resultant hash has to be smaller than a number to qualify as a found block.
mod6: i like what i've read, more analysis and discussion of implementation decisions are required for sure. i think we'll get there as this thread continues over the next 45 days.
BingoBoingo: I know places where actual food happens seasonally and mass food is recycled in the fields though the Corn Cycle. I rightly can't believe the Coast or Death phenomenon as anything other than a form of Stockholm syndrome.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: I also found this on LTM within neural nets: http://colah.github.io/posts/2015-08-Understanding-LSTMs/ << It looks as if LTM is possible but pretty complex (gates within the NN itself)
BingoBoingo: Ok, I just suggest it because I know few things as refreshing for the mind as digging into an especially lulzy incident for qntra.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as usual, take it
asciilifeform: (it was 100% fraudulent, as you might expect)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform inasmuch as he steal speaks of "its money", orlov doesn't actually get the turkey dollars thing. he earnestly thinks that there is ONE kind of usdollar, and PART of that one is "wasted". whereas the situation in the field is that there's two kinds, ands the bezzle part can only be bezzled with.
asciilifeform: as if it were an actual animal
asciilifeform: as per mircea_popescu's article
asciilifeform: nubbins`: soon as i get home.
mircea_popescu: these are as far as i've seen the two mindbugs of the republic : a) A -> B therefore B-> A, ie backflow ; and b) the above.
asciilifeform: well, to re-connect the frags, i take issue with everett's device as problem solving tool, because if you admit it, none of the other things we do make any sense
mircea_popescu: notreally, as it doesn't adapt.
asciilifeform: what if test is 'be not as large as a mouse, there is nothing to eat but for cockroach'
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:21:59; thestringpuller: you ever read mimsy and the borogoves? short sci-fi story by Lewis Padgett (a pseudonym for CL Moore and some other person that wrote as a duo)
asciilifeform: as if the knapsack thing were not enough
mircea_popescu: "Fix the motherfucking code before you have to be fired. To recap : a. If I want to make 1 Mb txs I make 1 Mb txs ; b. correct inputs are selected to feed the outputs as if a human or better was doing the selecting." << also march, as fate would have it.
mircea_popescu: as you recall, police is not obliged to serve you.
mircea_popescu: because it clearly IS part of the books, right ? trivially enumerable, as it is. just not easy to evaluate.
mircea_popescu: so tell me, as a curio : what is the correct accounting for "city having subway" in the books of a donut shop at the corner of 85th and 10th ?
asciilifeform: interestingly, no effect visible to naked eye from the city subway here being closed - seems as if usg took the day off..
trinque: adlai: your deed will send as soon as this thing reimports its key into the wallet for the 30th time
asciilifeform: but just as dead
asciilifeform: then, as described in mircea_popescu's articles, they become just another player
asciilifeform: it depends on who the reader sees as musting die, no?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it can stay as PART of it tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform keccak for this purpose counts as sha-3
mircea_popescu: well, hm, that doesn't work as stated
mircea_popescu: so your idea is, that we of course continue to maintain trb as is, but also develop a keccak pow variant, for use in case of forks ? or vice-versa, in case of forks develop it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my reaction now is same as then, i am willing to take part in 1,000,001 variants but not in capitulation to the motherfuckng nazis
mircea_popescu: (and generally i dunno why this shortcircuit between facts and judgement became fashionable here, seems much too close to the habits of the "independent" demographic for comfort. trust me, if i want to say x i will say it in those exact words, as i have without exception to date. saying i don't know x means i do not know. and similarly, here, and so on. i totally can speak for myself, say what i mean etc.)
mircea_popescu: yes, schelling point to continue, yes with the same idiots/geniuses as before, and thus at a lower adoption interest.
adlai: as opposed to "let's make our new blocks incompatible"
adlai: which is possible to launch as a miner-only fork, which nodes can choose to enforce, but don't have to; and then at some later date, all nodes enforce it, and miners know they must keep enforcing it, too.
adlai: asciilifeform: mircea's suggestion is implementable as a soft fork.
adlai: ok, i also like that idea, although as you said yourself, it's not fully baked yet. i also like that it can be initially opt-in, with an ultimatum that it gets 'hardened' by some date, if it hasn't 'softened' by then.
adlai: asciilifeform: "port" in the loose sense of the word. let's rephrase that as "some poor code monkey should write a keccak vpatch for trb, but nobody should ever have to use it"
adlai: yet a precise interferometer is about as feasible as a trustworthy kyristor
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i guess let them live in ignorance as long as said ignorance doesn't interfere with the adults?
thestringpuller: you ever read mimsy and the borogoves? short sci-fi story by Lewis Padgett (a pseudonym for CL Moore and some other person that wrote as a duo) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: might as well say "it's because pogos", which would be equally flattering just in a different direction and otherwise equally afield.
mircea_popescu: yes, various derps on poorly connected boxes still play with it. this is about as relevant to the discussion as considering what machines aspiring webcomic designers use when discussing pixar or something.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433659 << i dunno why you think this odd. as far as my experience goes, 100% of english language literature (long before the days orwell quit and his naive, square jawed colonial subjects took over the pretense of empire) is exactly this "here are our assumptions, which clearly paint us as utterly and hopelessly stupid, let's lampshade it and carry on". i don't think by n ☝︎
asciilifeform: as on most routers.
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 02:56:58; phf: trinque: as per that rant only things needing pressing are asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2, asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2 and asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug
phf: trinque: as per that rant only things needing pressing are asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2, asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2 and asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug ☟︎
adlai wonders about his own predicament; people keep telling him to blog about it, but, as the latin teacher said when asked why he gave up correcting people's mispronounciation of his name: "I hate people"
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda waiting for the lulzy moment when "the community" decides he's you know, religious nut bla bla, then it's revealed he hangs out just fine with flaming iconoclasts such as yours truly, famous stake-in-butt practitioners like alf, sunni muftis like yourself, cascadians and what other scandalous outrages there be in this here menagerie
mircea_popescu: shoot as many as you'd like, the sort of sniveling cur that'd become a preacher is abundently provided by the perl cunt.
asciilifeform: e.g., cpu that clocks down to DC as the battery runs down, or the like, will be a first step
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-03-2016#1433374 << naturally, not ~all~ software, and definitely not all hardware, given as there still has to be earth for all the swamp to stand on ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in other news - something that appears as a legitimate outfit from rochester, new york ( thepremierpartners.com ) has apparently managed to lose control over its [email] servers, because they're now sending run of the mill "due bill.doc" spam but from http://dpaste.com/2MV15W2 it seems to be actually sent by them.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:33:26; phf: nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things. it would've been nifty if, as a "lord" if you will, you picked up the game and made your accusations formal, maybe solicited a judge from the wot, made it interesting somehow! you don't have to obviously, but the approach tha
adlai for once, shuts himself up, to go sleep. putting preorders for morning popcorn, please keep the logs a-churnin (but do read them, too many idiots showing up here asking for summaries as though people are paid to write them)
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 22:22:18; phf: but as an advertisement platform for mpex and steady stream of income for investors i don't see ~anything~ wrong with bitbet. my current interpretation is that a lot of various people overreacted and a sure thing was killed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432859 << i dunno that every bit of historical item that is no longer as useful as it was is automatically an oversight. but sure, we can entertain that view, perhaps it is informative. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:44:17; asciilifeform: anyway my original point was that much of what we think of as 'tmsr economy' is not actually tmsr in any reasonable sense of the word, in that it is not effected by folks having a wot presence, nor does it even have so much as iceberg tip in the public forum.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:26:03; phf: jurov: you're right, there's not much that can be done as far as bickering. i find some of the positions rather petty or outright alarmist, but i can't keep people from talking. i'm only thinking that an arbitration procedure could produce tldr that at the very least will focus the attention.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:21:59; asciilifeform: bbet was ~the~ bet machine, as far as i'm concerned, fwiw, and now there is none.
mircea_popescu: (none of this is to say that one ~oughtn't~ try. sure, one ought to try. but also understand that this is exactly like "one ought to try and fuck every woman that can walk within his visual radius". in a veeeheheheheeery theoretical principle, sure. in practice - there is such a thing as penis friction blisters.)
mircea_popescu: and yes - for as long as pick one and you carefully sit under its umbrella, never leaving that domain "it works for me!". except we're in bitcoin specifically to see what's out there.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432804 << not everything can always be valued. you understand this, yes ? the market, as well as the central planning committee and all sorts of other arrangements (such as - organised religion) exist in an attempt to resolve the "zero-infinity" problem. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:17:09; asciilifeform: given as it was structured in such a way that ANY unexpected ding would destroy it utterly unless carried by that month's profit.
mircea_popescu: because yes, the thing as it worked is STILL a major improvement over traditional gambling anything, and there's no sane reason i could possibly see that bitbet wouldn't carry a majority of the world's 10bn to 1 trn dollars worth of yearly prop betting.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432770 << obviously anyone's free to use the wot as they please (and yes, lack of homogenity is still its only defense against immediate explosive doom) but i can't see myself negrating someone for not agreeing with someone else. seems rather rich. ☝︎
solrodar: my personal standing is irrelevant, as interested buyers are likely to already be familiar with the site
solrodar: yes, as a package first
mircea_popescu: so you're going to try as a package first, then just the domain on a 2nd pass, and advertise this on forums - how many, which, do you have good standing accounts in any (which) or is this going to be just some drive-by spam thing ?
mircea_popescu: well, what do you contemplate setting as a fee and what sort of time interval do you see this taking roguhly speaking ?
jurov: apparently you intended bitbet as a tool to establish The Order in bitcoin, while kakobrekla unawares thought it's usual business
mircea_popescu: obody's thanking anyone for giving up his spleen to MAKE UP the ground on which he walks - it's just ground, a given, forget about it) you want to credit rather than charge, so as to give things a chance.
humanoidity: kakobrekla: didn't imply you needed them, but getting other knowledgeable folks' opinion on a particular situation doesn't strike me as unreasonable.
asciilifeform: as announced the day of
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:20:43; asciilifeform: i won't bet so much as a satoshi at a betmoose or fairlay or whatever other wotless wild derpery.
asciilifeform: in fact, does not even consider ticks as a thing, except when specially sitting down to think about it
BingoBoingo: But so long as alf doesn't get to telecommute from Ohio, everything to rent bezzle
thestringpuller: does company get lent credit and just book the bill as an expense? it's probably justifiable if done in a way where shareholders still get to see ~some~ profit monthly, but company doesn't go bankrupt paying of credit.
thestringpuller: phf: so zero assets is obviously an oversight << since corporation doesn't hold any cash outside of "day to day operations" and all profit is distributed, dealing with credit is tricky. what if company needs to buy a foo-machine but is too expensive to book as a one time expense?
jurov: it was presented as business expense to be carried by shareholders' future profits
phf: humanoidity: safety interpretation is between you and your counterparties. 750.4btc, as of right now all in their corresponding addresses
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 22:22:18; phf: but as an advertisement platform for mpex and steady stream of income for investors i don't see ~anything~ wrong with bitbet. my current interpretation is that a lot of various people overreacted and a sure thing was killed.
jurov: in any case, thanks for the analysis. you're welcome to put it together as qntra post-mortem, and hopefully get more than $25
phf: but as an advertisement platform for mpex and steady stream of income for investors i don't see ~anything~ wrong with bitbet. my current interpretation is that a lot of various people overreacted and a sure thing was killed. ☟︎☟︎