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asciilifeform: for some reason many folks focus on ~synthesis~ as the main act of productive thought
phf: as manifest in every "my first crypto", this is so convoluted i can't grok it, surely nobody else can
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: incidentally, this edges into the definition of 'random', as per the 1,001 threads on subj. specifically, solving a problem ~you already know the solution to~ is O(1) in all cases!111
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform << undisclosed addresses? unprincipled-exception from 'no such thing as taint' ?!! << very principled. "no such thing as taint" means that i do not recognize the concept, or any reasoning that relies on it. it very pointedly does not mean i will behave in such a manner as to protect the taint assumptions of third parties but just the opposite.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 15:31:18; phf: there's a very vocal minority trying to get it into emacs as a replacement for elisp, you'll have an elisp emulation layer, but you can also have javascript emulation layer!!1
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436666 << elisp , and emacs as a whole , suck donkey balls. it is in many ways a microscopic model of how linux sucks, a turd for which NO replacement is available, so it is kept on life support at all costs . ☝︎
phf: there's a very vocal minority trying to get it into emacs as a replacement for elisp, you'll have an elisp emulation layer, but you can also have javascript emulation layer!!1 ☟︎
asciilifeform: used as a tinyscheme of sorts
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436602 << undisclosed addresses? unprincipled-exception from 'no such thing as taint' ?!! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2016 06:25:18; phf: ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed. in fact i tried installing unknown package that turned out to have a hard poettering dependency, and gentoo refused to proceed
mircea_popescu: phf> ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed << it does, yes, and it IS a very good and useful thing. almost makes me feel bad when mocking linuxen. ☟︎
phf: ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed. in fact i tried installing unknown package that turned out to have a hard poettering dependency, and gentoo refused to proceed ☟︎
mod6: And beyond that, as you were saying, it didn't get oomkill'd, just kept right along going. i think you're right, we should throw a fatal exception in the event of oom.
mod6: hanbot: hmm, ok that makes some sense as far as the philosophical components. i wonder if simply an index with pointers to indexed topic wouldn't just be something worthwhile. i.e. "Discussion around MP's change requirements and keccak hash family => [LOG_URL_1] [LOG_URL_N] [...]"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> if already nigga rigged, might as well duct tape the whole thing << that's actually not even the worst solution.
thestringpuller: i honestly don't know if I can run as true full node
thestringpuller: if already nigga rigged, might as well duct tape the whole thing
asciilifeform: and in fact oom ought to be handled in the exception catcher as a fatal
asciilifeform: and yeah 'jew' means ashkenazim, the other kinds may as well be eskimos as far as i'm concerned
mircea_popescu: no rub, no pleasure. is such thing as too big.
mircea_popescu: then again the same can be said of imaginary postmodern nations such as "austria". really, austria ? ooookay.
phf: i'm waiting for western ashkenazim to start embracing persecution as a status symbol, kind of like how affirmative action devalued blacks in workforce, this is the opposite. was a bit of a thing in su, in some professions (anything related to mil for example) if you were known to be of jewish descent (you wouldn't be on paper, but "people talk") it was also kind of assumed that you were whicked smart to get in
asciilifeform: it is actually same thing as the yaglom
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You gotta remember at one point I was able to appreciate the sports stuff that didn't suck for a while. Now I just drink tears as it tears itself appart.
asciilifeform: well, i originally wanted to turn it into a prime and embed as exponent !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436287 << the thing is not meant to be adopted as is (for one thing, there is no ready orifice for it to climb into atm) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-03-2016 19:34:15; asciilifeform: in particular, i believe that satoshi's turd is an abomination and is barely fit for any use at all, and ought to be discarded as soon as a politically reliable alternative exists - but there is no way to infer this from what patches i have signed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1436209 << the other view being that proving that we can do something no one else can or could do will on the contrary, make this asset as well as all other assets more valuable. ☝︎
asciilifeform: in particular, i believe that satoshi's turd is an abomination and is barely fit for any use at all, and ought to be discarded as soon as a politically reliable alternative exists - but there is no way to infer this from what patches i have signed. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: no such wonder as potatl.
mircea_popescu: mno, the origins are batata and papa (still used as originally, to distinguish sweet and plain varieties, here)
asciilifeform: so as to avoid the need for a) dozens of 'wall warts' or b) a high current dc power supply.
mircea_popescu: decentralization being not the answer, but the problem, in many applications. as seen here.
asciilifeform: as in, 'your house is really same as my pile of straw, it must be, there is nothing else in the world'
asciilifeform: it was more interesting even, it was about how they do not even see it as a thing
mircea_popescu: not as such ? :/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure as hell you can
jurov: asciilifeform: as usual, your lawyer will just crudely reimplement rsa in excel
mircea_popescu: PeterL i knew a guy who would introduce himself to half drunk british roses as "hi, my name's pizda ma-tii!"
mircea_popescu: as a legacy ?!
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Sure, as a legacy thing
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Also pls to not link my blog as my slave name.
mircea_popescu: (for the curious, the way private sealed writs work in fiat court is, the presumed author is confronted with them. if he accepts them all is fine, if however he repudiates them the circus starts, because the case forks into a sub-case about whether the item is genuine or not, gotta have witnesses as to the writ, experts as to the writ, you can be there a month with the piece of paper.)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If remixing things might as well escalate its cardinality
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Speaking of this topic, can you spin up a justification of Obesity being a Cardinal sin as if Man is created in God's image defiling oneself with obesity is akin to defiling God?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Until I finish a religious tract Imma just treat satisfying the will of the gods as alternately a question of conduct and business
solrodar: BingoBoingo: indeed it is complex, and so if bettors have to take a haircut because mircea_popescu is senior, then that's fine, as long as there's a justification for it
BingoBoingo: solrodar: I'm suggesting it as a rabbit hole to read moar on to understand how complex the matter of claims is, not strictly legally but morally
solrodar: it can be as complex or as non-complex as he wishes
mircea_popescu: "if you didn't need to pay him as a supplier, fuck him". how's the receiver to justify this "downgrade" ?
solrodar: considered yes, and possibly then downgraded to be at the same level as bettors?
PeterL: but in order to have that flexibility, suppliers as a class must be senior to customers as a class
solrodar: yes, but if davout's list is read as an ordered list then it still says that all suppliers are senior to all bettors
PeterL: solrodar they didn't say all suppliers must be in the same class, the receiver has the option to classify suppliers as urgent/non-urgent
solrodar: but as I said, if the only argument is "receiver still has to work", then it only applies to claims the receiver must pay in order to do his work
davout: solrodar: well, how about you think of a bitcoin transaction fee as a certified bill? it is necessary to pay it for the receiver to be able to actually bettors for example
mircea_popescu: and in general this inept "mp said something ; i said something else because i'm just as much a X as mp" is the font of ineptitude.
solrodar: I suppose that could be read as not being an ordered list
mircea_popescu: this neatly matches the ability of suppliers to cut the spaghetti NOW as opposed to the customers' ability to basically whine moar.
mircea_popescu: seniority is principally important so as to give the receiver the option, not the obligation, to pay things NOW, rather than promise to pay after he pays someone else.
BingoBoingo: <jurov> even batteries are advised not to be massively serially connected, you know << Well, I imagined massively parallel FeNi banks. linked to get target voltages. Abuse however just so long as you remember to water them.
BingoBoingo: Get power to batteries however, one it's in the batteries dice it up and feed to machines as appropriate
assbot: EU Marching Towards "Helicopter Money" As Other Manipulations Are Exhausted | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/22oG0cX )
BingoBoingo: jurov: Sorry, I've added a note http://qntra.net/2016/03/eu-marching-towards-helicopter-money-as-other-manipulations-are-exhausted/#comment-48935
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: bbet share payment also avoids the issue of mods dragging their heels in resolving a sticky situation, as per hour fees would. share payment also puts skin in the game and flat-rate payment incentives efficiency.
deedbot-: [Qntra] EU Marching Towards "Helicopter Money" As Other Manipulations Are Exhausted - http://qntra.net/2016/03/eu-marching-towards-helicopter-money-as-other-manipulations-are-exhausted/
phf: befs was tight in that respect, where they blend xattr and file contents, and then build all tools with metadata support upfront, so you could have a folder full of mp3s and they would come up as song-name, song-title, date, etc.
asciilifeform: so, e.g., spaces, are not represented as merely a byte but a #\Space
asciilifeform: and every time i try to explain to him that his notion of 'text' is ill-defined and the actual mechanics, as implemented in unix world and elsewhere, are malignantly retarded
asciilifeform: 'feed'em to pigz' as mircea_popescu said.
asciilifeform: in unix file has name, but also, as everyone knows, epochal date and access perms
asciilifeform: where there was a separate body for 'metadata' and another for what we think of as the file
asciilifeform: this is just as problematic as agreeing that it is in the beginning of the file!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there may not exist "nonprintables". as per your own theory!
mircea_popescu: notably, the derpy gnupg manual indicates "telephone" as a out-of-band mechanism to verify key fingerprints. is this so ? since when until when ? did it work back when phones were still analog ? does it work now ? why / why not ? etc.
mircea_popescu: the concept of identifiably separate bands is as much a presumption about the "adversary" (properly said, of the context) as anything else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the in-band thing is not as separable from your point as you think.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 02:21:19; mircea_popescu: "In the world where the media postulates social media as an absolute requirement of the modern era-- the era where everything is fetishized-- no one is permitted to make the distinction between a value and the picture of a value, they are made equivalent, so daring to criticize Randi's baby pictures is made to sound like misogyny or misobaby. It's not. I love food but if you ask me to look at a pict
mircea_popescu: the problem with safewords isn't that they're in-band to any degree. the problem with safewords is that they pretend to recast s/M relationships into a circus approximation. the submissive partner may not pretend to option as to when, or as to how the dominant partner extracts his pleasure out of his hide ; nor may (ipso facto inept) third parties purport to misrepresent any sexual relationship in terms other than stuf
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for the pesky armed insurection, iraq would be "cleanning up corruption" as we speak.
phf: problem with being autodidact, 50s look as close as yesterday
mircea_popescu: might as well care what the "fashion world" thinks.
phf: mircea_popescu: which interpretation? i'm saying that the way arguments are presented here is essentially "this is how it is, and you're an idiot for not grokking" as opposed to some other, perhaps subtler, forms of rhetoric
mircea_popescu: phf methinks you may be alone in that interpretation. i for instance don't do the whole "accept as fairitale" thing.
mircea_popescu: this brave new libertard world that "holds people as the greatest value", i am so sick of it!
phf: mircea_popescu: i take rhetoric as separate from message. b-a rhetoric is firmly in asshole tradition, i.e. strong statements and the listener has an option to find the subtle point.
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if these don't come with a civilized 12v regulated brick.
nubbins`: one may end up as a CUPS server
mircea_popescu: and if i hire an immigrant irishman as a carpenter, that STILL means he's gonna carpent in fucking new york, not that i'm paying his passage back to dublin to make me some doors and window frames there. wtf.
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 14:51:01; mircea_popescu: "The suburbs are doomed. Go rural or stay urban, where you at least have structurally defensible enclaves, as opposed to getting caught in the suburban net that was designed to put you at the mercy of teenage criminals when you are in your eighties." << to the uncharitable eye it'd seem south africa was actually an experiment rather than happenstance.
mircea_popescu: and YOU can just as well have a trusted computer to print out the digital store.
asciilifeform: you can have as easily the slaves print out nonclearsigned (magic header, vs magic inband) and verify.
asciilifeform: as in, photo has ~no state.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just because one whore was easy doesn't mean all whores are going to be as easy.
mircea_popescu: "The suburbs are doomed. Go rural or stay urban, where you at least have structurally defensible enclaves, as opposed to getting caught in the suburban net that was designed to put you at the mercy of teenage criminals when you are in your eighties." << to the uncharitable eye it'd seem south africa was actually an experiment rather than happenstance. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 03:15:03; phf: "if i cut the tape, he realized, my world will disappear. reality will continue for others, but not for me. because my reality, my universe, is coming to me from this minuscule unit. fed into the scanner and then into my central nervous system as it snailishly unwinds."
mircea_popescu: there's a list there. don't have to go through it as is, read it, think it through also works.
davout: that would be three-fold: not charge more than a few percent for the whole liquidation, evaluate all claims against bitbet in light of its actual contract (and more specifically, the 3.2 (d) clause), try to get as much as possible from the non-cash assets, and (quite importantly) not disappear with the cash
phf: "if i cut the tape, he realized, my world will disappear. reality will continue for others, but not for me. because my reality, my universe, is coming to me from this minuscule unit. fed into the scanner and then into my central nervous system as it snailishly unwinds." ☟︎
punkman: "We didn’t see any of this happening,” Ramos said. “They’re saying Michael wanted to kill himself. We just don’t know.” She said that Michael Ford’s mother suffered a heart attack after police in Prince George’s burst into her house to search it following the shooting and that she is now at the same hospital as her son." << we just don't know, lol