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b6: Googled that, found MP's article, googles them, found this channel
mircea_popescu: how through an english did you speak that
ben_vulpes: how through a ddos did you get here?
b6: Through the most recent f2pool ddos, to be exact.
mircea_popescu: contrary to a whole lot of gargle, the list of +ev usage is ~empty. ☟︎
phf: but i'm going to drop the subject, i'm being tedious and i need to pass out anyway
phf: BingoBoingo: oh i wasn't saying it's harmful, i was saying that when coffee stops working, perhaps it's time to take amphetamines, since it's a cleaner and longer productive high. of course with a history of substance abuse of any kind it is perhaps not a good idea (same people who drink coffee by the litre, start eating amphetamines, etc.)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol so apparently r/btc moderator turned out to be con man, took donations to hash, kept donations since classic doomed anyway.
BingoBoingo wonders what could be so harmful about drinking less coffee con a daily basis than I often did vodka
phf: from the study of dynamic systems, "researches put more wood on kindling, create big fire. more wood is good for fire!" "researches put more wood on massive fire, fire suffocates. less wood is good for fire!"
BingoBoingo: Well, grandpa did smoke into his late 60's to early 70's
mircea_popescu is vaguely bracing himself for discovery that tobacco essential for healthy, cca 2050 or so
mircea_popescu: well nobody seriously wants to contemplate that hey, 19 haplogroups, 100+ subgroups each, subgroups of subgroups, and serious test of "is coffee good or bad" needs 1mn+ subjects
phf: so does any other arbitrary chain of biochemical events that some team somewhere decides to investigate. it's the mutual interaction of those events that makes the entire system not amenable to reasoning
BingoBoingo: Well, the mechanics make sense
phf: in a correlation/causation world of pop medicine here's ten things that you need to know about new use for an old drug that's all the rage
BingoBoingo: Well, supposedly coffee is good for the liver
phf: it was mostly a rhetorical question, i just think that once you cross certain line with a substance, perhaps it's worthwhile to try something different. but since coffee guzzling is mostly done from lack of attention, perhaps it's not a good idea ☟︎
phf: some good parties you go to
BingoBoingo: How would I know if I did have a history of that?
phf: i thought aa mostly object to other substances only as much as they trigger alcohol abuse. unless you have a history of mixing alcohol and speed, there shouldn't be any crossover
BingoBoingo: phf: Because that would be bad for my sobriety
phf: i don't mind the idea, but, if you need this much coffee, why not just take amphetamines?
BingoBoingo: Wait, you don't drink it all by the pot? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you should see the coffee here.
phf: that evokes images of a decisive cup, rationed coffee as a boost for man's will in harsh conditions. most of the coffee experience i'm surrounded with is not like that at all. office workers on a litre a day, hipsters with artisanal pourovers, three jobs just to keep up crowd on a dunken donuts extra large. not much keeping up with nature
BingoBoingo: Well coffee helps when keeping up with all the rest of nature
phf: i'm always reminded of that movie where i guy was living among wolves, every morning he'd drink a lot of coffee and make rounds
BingoBoingo: They gotta understand that when man can mark territory with their weight in piss it is man's world.
phf: BingoBoingo sets own yard on fire to settle a long running dispute between cat and fox in favor of man
BingoBoingo: I go out front to see what the fuss is and the cat shoots out of the tree and under a car while the fox shoots off into a the park
BingoBoingo: the turf, one well lit front yard. The combatants a vocal orange neighborhood cat and a fox
BingoBoingo relishes in that feeing of power that follows one's presence ending a turf war.
assbot: MacOS is the new Windows | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1QPWiGv )
asciilifeform: 'My laptop is a Thinkpad x60 running the LibreBoot bios and Debian GNU/Linux, it overheats alot, especially when viewing Star Trek outtakes of Captain Picard. It survives though, even at 90 Celsius... It should die, but it's strong.'
asciilifeform: l0l and randomly looking for this, found something that could be straight out of mircea_popescu's zoo,
asciilifeform: as it dies in the first 20 min. of setup, during the very first compiles
asciilifeform: or the idiocy would have become immediately apparent
asciilifeform: namely, that they do not actually use linux (i.e. gentoo) on their boxes
asciilifeform: this immediately tells me something about the authors
asciilifeform: and hopes for the best.
asciilifeform: libreboot just sort of runs it at mid-rpm at all times. ☟︎
phf: well, yeah, all those hoops i jumped through, compiling anything non-trivial would kick in fans at 60000
asciilifeform: woah that thing runs at 80c.
phf: maybe i can get away with running 10.9 for the next five years at which point b-a will have its own scheme-81 clean room, yeah?
asciilifeform: this is not tolerable.
asciilifeform: i draw the line at 'randomly crashes during compiles'
phf: but the whole exercise feels a bit hair shirt
phf: i have a borrowed carbon x1 that i'm hoping to make use of. guy was running ubuntu on it, and clean slackware install at the very least doesn't exhibit particularly aberrant behaviors
asciilifeform: at some point (not any time soon, i've elementarily no time) i will replace the thermal paste in the x60 with industrial diamond
phf: mircea_popescu: extreme case of "tom knight and the lisp machine", doing things with no understanding hoping to produce desired effect
phf: oddly enough doing that same PEEK/POKE after the linux framebuffer kicked in would blankscreen the machine.
asciilifeform: i would have said 'there is a less atrocious machine, the legendary x60' but now i WON'T ...
phf: i gave up because integrated intel card and ati card combination required some fancy grub PEEK/POKE combination, and i didn't want to do grub
phf: well, that's why i'm back on mac os x in defeat
asciilifeform: go and gentoo on that.
phf: manually forcing cpu to run in save as much battery mode
asciilifeform: what is the use of the box without these parts ?
asciilifeform: phf: what is even the point? why not throw whole thing in the trash ?
phf: ati card, bus that it sits on, wifi, sd card slot, firewire slot, hdmi, bus that those sit on
phf: most of the time i spent setting up linux on macbook pro was tracing and eliminating overheating problems
asciilifeform: phun phakt, the x60's original bios has 'computrace' infection, though this is mentioned nowhere in the docs, nor in the original 'bios setup' (normally, they do.)
asciilifeform: and people just live with this.
asciilifeform: plus there is apparently no remnant of doubt that coreboot (aka linuxbios) does not properly handle the variable cpu clock thing, nor the fan controller
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm thick, but...
asciilifeform: and i own an ir thermometer.
asciilifeform: i threw the intel wifi in the trash and installed atheros.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you use tghe wifi ?
DicePower: Ahh okay, thought I had to decode that hash thing.
mircea_popescu: you can voice yourself by pm-ing !v to assbot
asciilifeform: and the miscellaneous (e.g., ai lab) legends.
asciilifeform: punkman: the history of emacs and gcc
punkman: what, the history of "utter failure"
assbot: [Trisquel-users] X60 Libreboot Trisquel 7 Overheating ... ( http://bit.ly/1VMgF5y )
asciilifeform: https://www.mail-archive.com/trisquel-users@listas.trisquel.info/msg46322.html << aaaaaaaand apparently i am not the only one to notice.
asciilifeform: punkman: you cannot 'be rms' without the history
assbot: Jean-Marie Le Pen on Twitter: "Si j’étais américain, je voterais Donald TRUMP… Mais que Dieu le protège !" ... ( http://bit.ly/1VMgzuD )
punkman: asciilifeform: wtf would that even mean ? << other crazy fsf people that want to be rms
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: when confronted with the idea that his life's work is an utter failure, man tends to wander into some very peculiar corners.
asciilifeform: wtf would that even mean ?
punkman: are there any alt-RMSes?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Perhaps he has become a lichen as he aged. Half man half malassezia since the toe jam incident.
asciilifeform: i am no longer sure that this is true.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you are still thinking of rms as a self-aware creature, having a thought process ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pete_dushenski: i suspect that it is a js thing << look at the page source. no js, just a href anchors.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: is rms hawking these turds himself ? cui bono from this misdirection ?
asciilifeform: and, again, this is not something that happens normally.
BingoBoingo: Is the heatsink appropriately copper colored or is it laminated with tar?
asciilifeform: (explicitly admitted to in the docs, but somehow 'this doesn't matter')
asciilifeform: almost certainly because the compatibility was a bold-faced lie, and the cpu 'frequency scaling' thing doesn't work.
pete_dushenski: "SSD UBER rates are higher than disk rates, which means that backing up SSDs is even more important than it is with disks. The SSD is less likely to fail during its normal life, but more likely to lose data." << from punkman's link.
pete_dushenski doesn't know, wasn't there.
pete_dushenski: as it is on trilema iirc
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i suspect that it is a js thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: say at least where you actually saw the highlight thing ~work~
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417045 << weird. this works. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: fwiw b-a logs always and everywhere seem to link correctly. maybe eulora logs need some of that kako magic pixie dust ?
asciilifeform: try and at least persuade him to post his readelf binary.
asciilifeform: wtf even is that
mircea_popescu: course i'm not installing fucking zorin or w/e the thing is called