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a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:55 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i also have open problems that you could probably help with. for instance, i am in search of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814828 , and of 32 ( or at worst , 2 x 16 ) port GB/s ~bare pcb~ ethernet switches that don't come with 'minumal order 1000' chinesium insult << Will get to searching. Thoughts on a good way to perform epoxy potting on my personal FUCKGOAT that would be actually transparent ☝︎
asciilifeform: if ben_vulpes or anybody else can think of a better pill -- asciilifeform is all ears.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, simplest solution is, periodic backups and not giving a shit. if it craps out reinstall.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is the reason why i even built the rc pilot cluster; because it is a (laborious, and expensive, but genuine) solution to $problem
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform for instance has a rough draft of an adatronic ftpd . but this is not production-ready )
ben_vulpes: how the fuck am i to meaningfully sell shared shells on this thing then, if anyone who pays for a month can get in and wreck everyone else on it.
trinque: all you need is a privesc in one of the services running as root, or kernel-side bug, or..
ben_vulpes: a few weeks of sweat to get root?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: so even user-level isolation is a lie on linux?
BingoBoingo: The easy, inconvenient cut is a second 1U box for the crowd. Web panel, quotas, frequent regular backups, and maybe a hot spare box..
asciilifeform: given an account on a linux box, e.g. asciilifeform ( who is not in particularly top shape re subj ) can get root, in a few days or few wks (max) of sweat
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you tell me what kind of bad behavior can be monitored for and how much of a pain it is to set up?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, let me put it even sharper : you have a man who conquered a drinking habit in a position which regularily drives men to drink ; and he's complained about not having sane AA there what, twice ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 17:55 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i also have open problems that you could probably help with. for instance, i am in search of a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814828 , and of 32 ( or at worst , 2 x 16 ) port GB/s ~bare pcb~ ethernet switches that don't come with 'minumal order 1000' chinesium insult ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i have absolutely no trouble at all repelling http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#comment-117928 "o noes, sky is fall't" ~for a reason~.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, understand that merely clear signs that management is aware of problems and working on them, and open communications are a larger morale boost than pretty much anything else. it's how folk manage to man pill boxes, which suck for any other criteria.
asciilifeform: really i advise ben_vulpes to get that chalkboard. quite srsly, i do not say this to make ben_vulpes cry, but because it is genuinely a win
ben_vulpes: hostingdiscussion.com at least has a user-enumerable db, but i don't know if an automated approach would get pizarro blacklisted, or even if we care, right? can make another account and pick up where left off.
ben_vulpes: or a mircea_popescu fetlife-style automated PMer to do the outbound
ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it is. i have neglected sales and putting BingoBoingo to work on that and conveying to him what he needs to know in order to do the shared hosting work that has until now landed on my plate. with the manual i published yesterday im now in a position to hand off new shared shell customers to him, and am looking at a list of hosting forums i put together for filtering over the past two days.
BingoBoingo: In the past month, aside from asciilifeform's visit roughly and hour to and hour and a half a day on strictly pizzaro business, minus time awaiting instructions. For the couple weeks after the ben_vulpes visit there was a consecutive run of days well over 8 hours. The work has been incredibly bursty in its flavor.
BingoBoingo: At least it would be a response.
mircea_popescu: seemed to me the way ben_vulpes was going was towards a yes/no type response. aanyways.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They asked me to put forward an idea. It isn't the best idea, but it one that makes the idea of continuing to stomach life in a country populated by a people I hate and who are culturally programmed to piss me off. I would like them to structure something they can afford instead of biting on this proposal.
mircea_popescu: saying "well, there's objective costs to $X, be it installing a rack or being in uy, these have to be paid" is one thing ; but seems you're discussing another thing, and how can you, i, ben_vulpes , anyone else transform "future" into "btc value" ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, why do you suspect pizarro can pay something like that ? << The idea is that there is a path for pizarro to get revenue. If pizarro can´t afford something closer to that than the current arrangement, I suspect they can't afford to keep someone in Uruguay.
trinque: looks like sandisk and a few others released some 2008-2010ish, and then radio silence
asciilifeform: inside there is a commercial flash ic. it has a WR leg.
ave1: yes, I see, unfortunately the pins do not have a rx/tx like serial
asciilifeform: ave1: even if by all appearances it's a truly perma-settable bit, i'd still muchly prefer a card where i can actually toggle the WR leg of the eeprom
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall reading of a means to reset said flag. unfortunately, cannot now find, grrr
ave1: no it is not unclear, it's reported to be unresettable everywhere and I do not have a card laying about here.
asciilifeform: i know, for a fact, that the software-settable flag, is software-clearable.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 15:24 asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform found that otp microsd cards exist!! should substantially lower the labour cost of maintaining rockchip cluster. IF i can actually find a vendor !
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 21:17 BingoBoingo: ^ ben_vulpes mod6 asciilifeform I have proposed a start for negotiations on a compensation package through February 2019 for your consideration here: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/#fn1-1909
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i suspect that english material is a leper's bell << It is
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that english material is a leper's bell
BingoBoingo: Here's another gringo fixer's guide on the incorporation process, but his own fees which he neglects to list are still more expensive http://www.mondaq.com/Uruguay/x/583558/Corporate+Commercial+Law/Forming+A+Company+In+Uruguay
BingoBoingo: If you are looking for a temporary liquidity source though, have you considered pete_dushenski? He might be interested in the opportunity to buy BTC from Pizarro.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: cedula gets you ability to open corporate bank accounts, i hope? << I would help with this. Doing it with the US Passport would have negated having a corp.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very least, need a 680mm ( or at worst, 650mm ) 2u ( most economical bang/buck variant ) chassis with NO welded-in internal partitions ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> and i recall that the driver for setting up either uycorp or some other foreigncorp is to get the liability for the dc contract off BingoBoingo's personal neck and onto an impersonal corporation, correct? << This and getting a BTC/USD conduit, and proceeding to get IPs straight from the regional registry
asciilifeform: so, lemme get this straight, a '3 week cedula' is as good as a native BingoBoingostani passport , for e.g. banks ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: A UY corp would be an actual corp. What I have now, as discussed previously is a unipersonal, essentially I am a registered person doing business. This means what I do as the Unipersonal is all personal liability. Corps can receive all kinds of incoming transactions that aren't necessarily "income".
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: won't a second uy corp just incur more taxes, and then more more taxes when it exceeds the low tax regime hole?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A decision on residence requires 6-12 months. The cedula itself can be done faster, now that I know everyone around me in this country is an idiot.
ben_vulpes: no, scans not a great idea. i would like to know what line over which blows you out of the low tax regime, some 20kusd per year do i recall correctly?
BingoBoingo: put some of my idle time into compiling reports on Pizarro's options for accomplishing certain goals (getting a UY corp, etc) I can do that. I need clarity of instructions.
BingoBoingo: As many contracts etc that we have sitting in my personal name, I am wary of the bus factor (either getting hit by or brain irrecoverably eggog'ing inside of). I have serious reservations for a plan that involves sending scans of my personal non-US identity document to allow someone sitting inside the empire to play trader, if that is what the request is for. I apologize if this is an uncharitable reading, but if you want me to instead
BingoBoingo: I can prepare reports on the local corporate options, and from what I understand asciilifeform is working on a corporate conduit for this sort of transaction as well.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> speaking of, BingoBoingo, now that you have the cedula, are you approaching the point where i can buy usd for wire into your local bank account? << BTC to bank wire can be done, for some amounts it can be done now. The concern is blowing up the current low tax regime my current unipersonal is sitting in. I would like more clarity on a plan for doing this other than "[ben_vulpes] can buy usd for wire into "BingoBoingo's]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:40 mircea_popescu: what is behind comments like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814037, "I moved more recently than this fellow and I'll get my id after he does" ? "I don't, properly speaking, think bb is a person, at least not in the same sense / to the same degree I am" ?
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-17#357607 << if this is in reference to my and BingoBoingo's warrants from the first month of operations, pizarro covers BingoBoingo's rent and fodder, and doesn't pay me at all; it is a trade of cash for equity.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, in other nominalist lulz, there existed in antiquity a she by the name "hind bint". find thee what she occupied herself with :D
asciilifeform: at any rate, if anyone has something like a clue that these items exist, and not merely advertised for vapour-sale by chinese hucksters, asciilifeform would like to hear about it.
asciilifeform: it isn't a 'consumable' as such; doesn't wear out on read, and lasts for as long as the machine it is installed into
mircea_popescu: this is a common item by any definition, in the sense of "consumable".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't clear to me how such a problem gets solved without ~someone, somewhere~ buying at least 1 whole container. but i am not expert in subj.
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform found that otp microsd cards exist!! should substantially lower the labour cost of maintaining rockchip cluster. IF i can actually find a vendor ! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if there can even be such a thing as a goal of human existence, "do not have the problems of the stupid" is a prime candidate.
mircea_popescu: these are eminently the sorts of problems of the stupid, whereby those who come after can't fucking discern what the everloving fuck were you thinking. however the empire managed to wedge them into stupid, through creating a hallucinatory "need for secrecy" or through "women get to choose, and you'll produce choices for them free of charge" or whatever nonsense -- the fact remains, here i sit, and they could've been the hitti
mircea_popescu: i suspect, further, that this is traditionally, and nearly universally, the failure mode in "tech" ie computer fabrication and utilization (and thereby may be a major item in say http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/ ) : the production of ideal objects involved is so complex, management ends up in info overload and the technologists involved end up misinterpreting the barf as meaningful ~within their visible edges
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:35 asciilifeform: a good % of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814646 i suspect comes from elementary info overload.
mircea_popescu: the question of "whether stupidity is a conspiracy" remains, of course, open.
mircea_popescu: if they're not out there advertising it as a srsly, it's utterly not worth our/anyone's time to consider whatever data they have.
mircea_popescu: what does a sugar know.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has a point tho, we should not be stuck sitting and guessing.
mircea_popescu: (and i'll point out that the eulora movement away from prices-because-prices to prices-for-these-reasons that's been evident in the coupla years past is very much of this exact same substance. a rational universe, plox, had enough of the emotional one.)
mircea_popescu: what's required of you is to explain ~how~ you processed sense data to end up in what looks from outside like wedges and thereby how to avoid it in future. even if it's a lot of explaining and fixing takes a lifetime, nevertheless, that's the process, and that's ~why~ "we're not x, we're y".
mircea_popescu: understand that what's required of you isn't a bland "do better", somehow magically and on your own power ; it's evident that your own power gets you where it got you, idly power-cycling the machine isn't the republican game.
mircea_popescu: i don't know ; and i'd like to know ; but i'd rather not guess, which is the entire point of even having a wot in the first place, take the guessing out of society, bring reason back among people.
mircea_popescu: what is behind comments like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814037, "I moved more recently than this fellow and I'll get my id after he does" ? "I don't, properly speaking, think bb is a person, at least not in the same sense / to the same degree I am" ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's not just a word / "something you say" / etc, we're not doing word salad, we're doing ASTs for lack of a better term, there's trees everywhere at the basis of and underneath expression, and those trees are sorted and organized by rational criteria.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 05:48 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784318 << ah damn, sir. Why are you playing with knives here. It was obvious a long time ago that mircea_popescu just wanted you to submit. You can't block the king from intervening in lordly affairs in his own kingdom.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not proposing x.1 as a counterargument of y.2, they're separate trees, and separate trees are reconciled at the roots by a manager.
mircea_popescu: why would anyone think such a thing ? it never worked in practice yet, but then again somehow "what works" ain't nobody's got time for.
mircea_popescu: lifetimes have been spent chasing the magic dust of "but why this be", so it can stay a black box for nao, it's just yet another strange property of the universe surroundant.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 06:25 mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" -- pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814661 << per ben_vulpes's published numberz, mircea_popescu is elementarily correct -- even if we do an astoundingly princely rockchiptron buildout, will still have a good half yr of runway ( at present exch rate ) remaining ( but , more importantly , something to sell ! right nao we've nuffin to sell aside from the shared unix and the 1 remaining rc ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 05:56 mircea_popescu: now currently you're engaging in a boatload of pussyfooting around the fact that pizarro doesn't need more capital as it is ; and the only conceivable function more capital could possibly serve as things stand is to give you some other excuse to not get sales going.
asciilifeform: a good % of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814646 i suspect comes from elementary info overload. ☝︎☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814442 <-- sorry for the confusion, this was miscommunication on my part. I took a look at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812181 , then one thing led to another and I ended up doing shithub key harvesting. still on track for new rss bot though. ☝︎☝︎
ave1: i thought that one was a copy paste, but my dyslexia played up again
ave1: As to this: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814283. This is all a matter of the specsfile apparently. Now I can do a dumpspec and sed script to make it always do statics, or I can change the source-code that has references to shared/static dispersed over C and H file in the gcc/config/ directory. This will take some time to get right (if the first approach works then I know what to do for the second). This will take some days ☝︎
ben_vulpes: and yeah, it's school. we don't have those where i come from, so i have a lot of work to do.
mircea_popescu: nobody's yet, or ever, drumming anybody out for not doing a good job. the drums start drumming only if you stick to not doing a good job.
mircea_popescu: performing poorly in public is a great fucking boon. that's what school is, basically.
ben_vulpes: look my greatest reservation in even taking this gig was that i've not really the know-how, and would be performing poorly in public the whole while. the much-maligned "learning on the job", not that i want in the slightest to 'fake it till i make it'. that by trying, i was more likely to get drummed out of the whole party for not doing a good job. and that's a cost i'm willing pay, i guess, if it builds the
mircea_popescu: mod6, anyway, to answer some angle of the question asked, rather than "the question read between the lines" -- pizarro wirh 8 something btc in cash whatever it is does not specifically require more cash to confront a 1.x expenditure and some months of .5 each overhead or w/e it is. the fact that you two are committed to further putting money in as need may be is utterly sufficient, as far as i can discern. ymmv, but you asked. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, it's not that i dislike you or anything ; but you gotta understand there's two views to any phenomena, id est subjective and objective. from the objective view you look bad. it's not the end of the world, but rather a very valuable signal.
mod6: We just need to keep pressing, not a moment to lose, as mircea_popescu keeps reminding us.
mod6: I think ben_vulpes is doing a very good job with all that he has coming at him, BingoBoingo and asciilifeform too. I don't want to replace anyone. Time is a luxury that we don't have. However, for a moment, if we step back and look at what we've accomplished so far, I think it's something to be proud of.
mod6: We have a variety of urgent matters to address. As soon as we get the additional money in place, we can get the new rockchips going. Give BingoBoingo a raise (& new digs?).
ben_vulpes: i'm listening to your critiques and working to address them directly. if i'm such a drag, mod6 and asciilifeform should probably replace me
ben_vulpes: selling themselves more equity or not, i'm going to bring up paying BingoBoingo more since that's a pretty important point.
ben_vulpes: seems pretty obvious to me that i'm barely keeping my nose above water with just the mechanics of pushing this along. mod6 wants to talk about putting more money in, that's his perogative. i'm assuaging BingoBoingo on bus factor of maintaining the shared server tonight and trying to make sense of the web hosting forums to filter them per yesterday's chat. once mod6 and asciilifeform make a decision about
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you're working all this out in your skull, but so far you're being a liability rather than an asset. why isn't this obvious ?