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mircea_popescu: but y9ou see, it wasn't a country, it was a world.
mod6: made a landing page for ``blog'' posts: http://www.mod6.net/blog.html
ben_vulpes: lobbes: for so long as a customer is paying pizarro is the intention
lobbes: ben_vulpes: Here's my initial q's: 1) Is that in perpetuity? 2) I assume this is a percentage of the revenue of the set of the customers the sales person recruits and not of the entire set of customers?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:47 ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 22:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816307 << this is actually a prime thing to have. didja ever publish asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816404 << believe or not, i dun actually have a en<->de .txt . ( the arch-bestseller , v. k. mueller's en<->ru , is errywhere, e.g. http://www.alleng.ru/d/engl/engl150.htm ) ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: mod6 asciilifeform: a sales incentive scheme proposal: we kick back 5% of revenue to affiliates who've recruited up to 10 paying customers, 10% up to 25 paying customers, 15% to 50 customers and then 20% for recruiting over 50 customers, which'd be a tidy .03 btc/mo, way better than any other "while you sleep" scheme out there. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816385 << that wasn't even unicode, that was her attempt to register a binary dump of her pubkey. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 19:23 asciilifeform: 'AmRRON Dark Labs, a type of Skunk Works for the Patriot community, has built a machine...' blah
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 16:55 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815927 << i'll take a look, i had further comments about diana_coman's original spec and the responses, but does this new spec replaces the other one entirely?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816338 << possibly do a composite, "time program was called"+gensym. that'll resolve the conflict. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816312 << that's a pretty informative find / equiv proof actually. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-21 10:12 ave1: does anyone have a ru to eng or de translation dictionary as a text file?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-21#1816307 << this is actually a prime thing to have. didja ever publish asciilifeform ? ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i await a transaction to clear through deedbot, then i shall settle your invoices
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent 22 hours and 13 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> is there a problem with the invoice ? ( aside from the fact that i forgot the 36 usd fee , in it ) ? how come i'm still waiting ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-17 14:40 mircea_popescu: what is behind comments like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-16#1814037, "I moved more recently than this fellow and I'll get my id after he does" ? "I don't, properly speaking, think bb is a person, at least not in the same sense / to the same degree I am" ?
phf: asciilifeform: transliteration code failing, give me a sec
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'AmRRON Dark Labs, a type of Skunk Works for the Patriot community, has built a machine...' blah << LOL, FBI-otron in the wild!
asciilifeform: 'AmRRON Dark Labs, a type of Skunk Works for the Patriot community, has built a machine...' blah ☟︎
phf: spyked: you kind of have a choice between #define equivalent inline, which is going to be actual inline and increase the binary size, or else i don't think it really matters. supposedly the annotation makes the calls "faster", but the notion of faster is very vague. i suspect it's essentially an equivalent of "register" keyword: things are maybe sometimes reshuffled to make things maybe sometimes faster
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815927 << i'll take a look, i had further comments about diana_coman's original spec and the responses, but does this new spec replaces the other one entirely? ☝︎☟︎
phf: ccl has a fancy system, based on hacked up gcc, for generating ffi mappings (called interfaces), which you then can use with (use-interface-dir :foo) (#_foobar ...)
esthlos: gotta run for a bit, thanks for the info phf
phf: it's a reader macro for ffi
esthlos: is that a reader macro for system calls?
phf: cffi is compatibility layer to native ffis (a rather dodgy one too)
esthlos: phf, I assume by ffi you mean a call to run-program, not a use of cffi?
phf: true, i'd still just go for an ffi to mkstemp. you're dealing with a unix substrate, might as well use unix tooling. otherwise you have to juggle file-probe, create-directory, but restart if there's exception, etc.
asciilifeform: ( if you need a heavy-duty gensym, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790082 works and is easy to implement ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's a temp dir, should live for, what, a few seconds
phf: (i assume he's basically asking for a lisp-only "mkstemp")
esthlos: anyone have a good idea for generating unique identifiers for v's gpg keyring name? I just spent a painful hour debugging because CL's #'get-universal-time is only precise to the second
spyked: it might also in a way be interesting to report how I stumbled upon this: I tried to recompile gnupg-1.4.10 on my broken debian system and got the same "multiple definition" linking errors as in vtools' case (though I *did* use gcc<5). so I dug and found the usual kochs "fixing" things to compile gnupg on newer gccs. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-01 13:52 spyked: anyway, comment was that I managed to compile and run vdiff with small mods; error: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BiBTI/?raw=true and fix patch: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9mOiz/?raw=true (tested this with the generated vdiff); I can try to link this reply later in a comment to test.
ave1: does anyone have a ru to eng or de translation dictionary as a text file? ☟︎
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes is there a problem with the invoice ? ( aside from the fact that i forgot the 36 usd fee , in it ) ? how come i'm still waiting ?
mircea_popescu: hey, i got good news for you : a) BingoBoingo escaped to uruguay on the strength of pizarro ; and diana_coman started her s.mg career as an effectual player.
Mocky: being a Habeeb has been hell, since 9/11. I quit flying cuz of the "special pat down" treatment. I guess TSA loves that name tho, lol
mircea_popescu: !!rate Mocky 3 Mocky Habeeb. Wrote a book on Amazon DB ; works for infraWise (which is pretty lulzy, but don't hold it against him).
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 19:49 mircea_popescu: ~technically~ pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not, pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816104 << you only know this as a courtesy, it's not something you can rely on knowing. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:30 asciilifeform: i suppose if adlai or karpeles or whoever wants to put on a mask and pretend to be a eulora-playing tits chix for years, there's no real damage
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816097 << the reason this exists is because you have no way around the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808200 ; guy could just register a new name, get a rating from anyone willing to, and there you go. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, aha. well, "when it is a jar", but yes
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815918 << It actually never occured to me to use the "many OTPs stored for later use" trick that trinque mentioned, which is pretty spiffy indeed (I may start doing just this). But to answer your question: lobbesbot's only involvement in my archive process is to listen to irc and insert urls it comes across into a sqlite3 db. That database is then 'shipped off' to separ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 20:21 mircea_popescu: btw lobbes, let me ask you this : when is a door not a door ?
mod6: Thanks all, I'll bbl, gotta do a few chores.
mod6: douchebag: A few finer points on the matter. 1] p.bvulpes.com pastes are archived (thanks lobbes!), which help for future trips through old logs. 2] Not everyone who can help is always on a machine with a gui capable of viewing images.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816065 << normally i'd have said "don't use fucking screencaps wtf is wrong with you", but in this case i doubt a proper paste could have risen to the required heights of lul. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:34 trinque: this is a pretty shitty reputation all around.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:30 mod6: and further, not even sure why you need a domain. (unless for some reason wp-mp doesn't work without one)
mircea_popescu: i had nfi they made a .press tld ; i expect they made it for the "journalism", but of course that being dead and presses being a thing...
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:29 douchebag: do you guys think douchebag.press is a good domain name?
mod6: Learned that about a week ago, and felt preeeety sheepish.
mod6: Ah yeah. If i grep for "foo" and it isn't found. It just hands you back your shell. Which I just always thought "oh, nothing found". But this is actually a non-zero return code.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:20 trinque: mod6: since his remedy involves access to a place to post the report, I'll give it until the end of the day, which is ample time to get a blog up and a post (even incomplete, so what) up.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816009 << if he manages to stand up a blog in a day i'll fucking fall over. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816006 << i'm not even sure he has a clear distinction between the two ; and amusingly enough that difference, whether present, it's not even a fundamental. it only emerges from context. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:07 trinque: douchebag: since I can read, I can see a spurious "v" in that command
mod6: lol mircea_popescu, I haven't heard that song in quite a while.
mod6: Sure, BingoBoingo. Just a solid test case against the rule formulated earlier. That's all this is.
BingoBoingo: Anyways there is a difference between a "-1 inquire within" and a "-10 social death sentence"
mod6: lol, "if it were not for your ``friends'' I would think that this was a normal chat site"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:07 trinque: douchebag: since I can read, I can see a spurious "v" in that command
mircea_popescu: here's a direct sample in this vein : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4xtpc/?raw=true . for most children, the first experience with negative reinforcement comes through their attempt to manipulate the processes around to avoid negative reinforcement.
hanbot: danielpbarron when you have a moment please post yer wp-comments-post.php for me.
mircea_popescu: in other words : providing someone being punished for weaselbehaviour with a specified mechanism to weasel further helps them by removing the ~defining~ of the weaselbehaviour from their hands, which is the first step towards becoming sane already.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: a right right, i forgot that part! kalash == maitenance is an act of love and devotion, not a matter of necessity. this is deeper than it sounds, consider this recent exchange : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NQRtP/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:04 trinque: mod6: if I tell you, I'm giving someone I'm already punishing for weaselbehavior a defined mechanism to weasel further
mod6: I think that may be a workable solution.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, haha, a case of ymmv huh.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 01:36 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, it's not a firm "no trading with bozos" ; seems to me you appreciate the distinction between selling an item and selling hosting in other contexts. people that are willing to take your cash payment upfront for a piece of hard candy might nevertheless not agree to rent you their garage.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:03 trinque: I think "nobody does business with any L1-negrated party" is a bit strict. folks need to be able to beat someone over the head with disapproval without removing their ability to take part in society by having done so.
mircea_popescu: ~technically~ pizarro is blocked (rather, protected) from the need to act by, indeed as pointed out, i having rented it in my own name. "for him" or not, pizarro's not held to care. but this was a palliative in place specifically because i expected something in this vein, the fellow is very phenomena-driven, sorta like the brains of frogs only work when there's ligjht bombarding the retinas and thereby powering the rest of th ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 18:01 trinque: if you press me on terms I'll remove the -1, you risk creating a mommyprocess anyone with a negrate can appeal to.
mircea_popescu: while i can appreciate http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815977 ; it seems unavoidable that in fact peri-rating negotiations will be a fact of life ; only weren't historically because historically the importance of ratings was relatively small (even if ever growing). ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 16:08 esthlos: now for your comments: getting rid of the defpackage was a bad oversight, no real reason. My guess why gpg is failing is because I'm using 2.2.4 while I think most of you guys use 1.x . Moving to 1.x is on my backlog, but it was deprioritized becasue I didn't want to spend the time converting my keys. Another oversight, I suppose
douchebag: would anyone mind chatting with me via PM so I don't shit up the logs asking questions about how to get everything on this gentoo box sorted? I have minimal expereince working with gentoo so I have quite a few questions
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 16:03 esthlos: if I need to be able to respond within a day to work with you guys, I will do my best to change things around
mod6: for instance, my thing basically checks all people in the current wot, then verifies the seals based upon the current wot, then build a map, from which I build a flow. then all operations take place fro mthat.
esthlos: trinque etc: do you want an eggog when flow fails because of bad seal on a vpatch? or let's be more general: do you want an eggog WHENEVER a bad seal is found?
mod6: He'll let us know, which is fine. But overall, it's best to try to get a clear understanding of how to handle these now.
douchebag: Well, I have a blog post. It's not complete and mpwp isn't installed yet.
diana_coman: mod6, you do have a say; but you have your say with the one paying for the box!
mod6: So, what we're saying then is, if someone rents a box for someone else, and that someone else gets neg-rated, then it's up to the renter to figure it out? What if the renter says, "hey fuck what pizarro and its customers think". Does Pizarro not have a say in it's own customer usage then?
lobbes: mod6: ah okay. logline you originally posted was phrased as a question, but reading further I see now that it resolves to the 'negrate from -any one- lord disqualifies': http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-03#1808202 ☝︎
mod6: This is all why this discussion is needed. Because it's a pretty inflexible rule, as it stands.
diana_coman: lobbes, there is no positive cancels negative; for starters, it's not a sum
mod6: in a pinch -- you could always try to just : `patch -F 0 -E -p1 < mp-wp_genesis.vpatch` in some directory and just inflate the thing.
mod6: crud, one sec. im guessing you have a separate .seals dir for the mpwp vpatch too right?
mod6: I'll be around for a bit if you need some help with v.pl.
danielpbarron: you're a douchebag
trinque: this is a pretty shitty reputation all around. ☟︎
douchebag: If I'm going to run a blog, wouldn't it make sense to have a domain name that's easy to remember?
trinque cares not; phf had just an IP for a long while
mod6: and further, not even sure why you need a domain. (unless for some reason wp-mp doesn't work without one) ☟︎
douchebag: do you guys think douchebag.press is a good domain name? ☟︎
douchebag: gonna buy a domain right now