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mircea_popescu: runs into trouble with data interchange, such 
as for instance going from csv to sql takes him hours of hand labour
 mircea_popescu: "we" 
as in, the relevant part of the species, tried this whole "every life is precious - every life is sacred" thing. because we got scared of ww2, and bla bla.
 mircea_popescu: anyway, the economic issues are incontrovertible. the "general computer" 
as killer micro is an 80s thing because white people were not mentally ill and mentally retarded then.
 mircea_popescu: you understand that just 
as there's no bridge between "this is what math says" and "this is what our cryptosystem does", there's no bridge between the words you use ?
 mircea_popescu: so much so the more astute artists actually use it 
as a characterisation device.
 mircea_popescu: so 
as time goes by, any arbitrary definition of open must converge to closed.
 mircea_popescu: the argument is here that a) that joke passed for serious back then ; b) there can not be such a thing 
as "serious" in this application.
 phf: mircea_popescu: it's the strategic superiority article's position is what i'm saying. you can rig up ipad to do crypto for you, 
as long 
as you shield it in a bunker, install some toy language environment on it and spend some time writing rsa algo in that
 mircea_popescu: 
as i say : games horridru example for this closed markets thing.
 mircea_popescu: phf it's not an equivalent of anything. the important point here is that from experience, this rubber band is very slippery. there is no such thing 
as "tight"
 mircea_popescu: 
as a matter of fact it may appear, but a negative lacks the definition capacity.
 mircea_popescu: understand - at some point in my life, "owning a computer" 
as opposed to a speccy, or a video game console, was a social selection bar SO HIGH that out of my entire preppiest-school-in-town it selected for TWO PEOPLE.
 phf: then wrote a rant how that's unsustainable for a single person on account of having essentially to work 
as a merge maintainer for a dozen of projects
 mircea_popescu: so blair would like an audience. fine. good. i didn't wet my bed 
as a child.
 BingoBoingo was actually considering opening fiat business 
as a hedge next year. You just gotta look at businesses with lower minimum costs.
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have to appreciate : in nature, there exists such a thing 
as a hole.
 mircea_popescu: look, the dilemma here isn't "either i be eunuch or else i go fight for odin 
as a berserker"
 mircea_popescu: the term "slap on the wrist" is a business call. it stands correct 
as it is. your "pretty penny" is a housewife call. it's not relevant how much it is.
 mircea_popescu: but in general - not that i expect this to be practically useful to anyone, 
as it isn't without the rest of the tools involved - the matter hinges on that fine thin line when liability can be personally attached. once you can start going after individuals rather than their precious "government" construct in the abstract, they pop like watermelons in august.
 phf: so what's the advantage of fpga based architecture 
as opposed to someone hypothetically investing quite a bit more than 500k into a high density risc, etc.?
 phf: define giving a damn. most people would see something like that 
as a hobbyist project along the lines of building a cpu out of nand gates, but funding it 
as an militarized alternative to modern computing?
 phf: i suspect snr on reddit is so low the event is not even going to be perceived 
as something that requires a cover up on such articulated terms. the burying is something in the range between "confederate flag? downvote." and "mircea? something not scam? downvote."
 mircea_popescu: mpex being, today 
as it was when it got started, exactly the ONLY bitcoin service doing this.
 midnightmagic: fwiw, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another. If I went into it knowing this were the case, I could find it very useful to have this property in my transactions with, say MPEX. But for, say, a *deposit address* on a webpage for an exchange, I *would* want non-repudiability 
as per, say, TLS message authentication extension in RFC ..  hrm. That RFC where it's defined but was never implemen
 mircea_popescu: apparently, i'm discovering, this is an entire market vertical, "young women + illegal sex". usually school setting, always some sort of lawsuit 
as to rape, corruption, what have you.
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform while it's true that the otr 
as implemented for say irc is dubious at best, his point remains :
 midnightmagic:  revealing the key would break the forward secrecy. But I know what you mean. Still, 
as described all an eavesdropper would have to do to fairly strongly prove the authenticity of the message is stamp it and assert that there's no evidence the pubkey was revealed before then. That is, a third-party passively listening to the conversation with self-assured reliability could watch it happen, then obse
 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re lafond's article - iirc you can buy surplus cruisers ; 
as well 
as various knick-knacks like body armor from afficionado stores (here they're called cotillon stores).
 copumpkin: that can still be held against me in divorce proceedings 
as evidence
 mircea_popescu: such 
as for instance in divorce proceedings, or whatever the fuck.
 mircea_popescu: inasmuch 
as you get your stat signed and timestamped, you should be fine.
 mircea_popescu: and there's no inefficiency in the system 
as it is, for it is simple. the inefficiency begins once you expect to have a 2nd "superior" channel on top of the slips. which will then have to be managed.
 copumpkin: mircea_popescu: also, 
as general good practice, it'd probably be good to include the address and amount of the withdrawal in the message, perhaps with a date. Currently the message is a constant, so the signature on it feels a little less valuable
 mircea_popescu: it specifically says you're not supposed to play 
as a 0.00x
 mircea_popescu: it's almost 
as if the meta-brain was made of plasticine, and with a fixed origin. yes you can make it go 
as far in one direction 
as you want, but this thins it out in all others, meaning there's an exponential relation between "furthest out" and "furthest in" points
 mircea_popescu: knowing 
as we do in fact know that children normally develop into whole men almost half of the time, their presence is proof of artifice,
 mircea_popescu: the ustards, 
as worthless 
as the middle east showed them
 midnightmagic: I'm going to go murder some videogame people and make some geeks scream futilely at their TVs now; I mention this mostly to excuse myself from present conversation and so 
as not to exit said chat more rudely than I must. 
As always, nice to be able to use words bigger than two syllables, dude. \o
 midnightmagic: He hated them. He liked nice horses but 
as a whole found them capricious and unpredictable beasts harder to maintain than an old austin.
 midnightmagic: No, it's not, but I mention it 
as an example of why the notion itself is problematic that infants should die in order that the remainder be presumed strong.
 mircea_popescu: 
as factual 
as it gets, most buildings on eitehr side HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THOSE HORSES.
 midnightmagic: Unrelated factoid: the life expectancy numbers shockingly low are usually calculated 
as an average including infant mortality rates.
 mircea_popescu: well of course 
as you are now you'd pick your poison. that's the problem.