asciilifeform: oughta be a machine-halting eggog imho.

asciilifeform: ( if rng is sad, absolutely anyffing can happen, and imho this oughta be understood by errybody )

asciilifeform: rng is 'jesus bolt'

asciilifeform: lol or unless wings fall off...

asciilifeform: ( it won't fit in galaxy )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: compute, for a laugh, the size of the disk where this can take place

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right. but otherwise ~must~ succeed

asciilifeform: unless disk , i suppose, is full

asciilifeform: bvt: thing is, there is 0 reason for this operation to ever eggog

asciilifeform: !#s gensym

asciilifeform: iirc we actually had this thread, and asciilifeform concluded 'just get 256bits from FG, and you're golden'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not that i see it as particularly likely, but afaik cannot be guaranteed not to, at least not w/out using inline asm, e.g. RDTSC on x86

asciilifeform: 2 get same time turd, then collide, neh

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: potential headache with processes running on parallel cpu

asciilifeform: bvt: try voicing yourself ( pm deedbot, see the linked help )

asciilifeform: nobody's baked a proper one yet. tho i can't presently see why it'd be difficult

asciilifeform: mkstemp : 'In glibc versions 2.06 and earlier, the file is created with permissions 0666, that is, read and write for all users. This old behavior may be a security risk... ...More generally, the POSIX specification of mkstemp() does not say anything about file modes...'

asciilifeform: oh gets better, watch :

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: ( removed in favour of ~what~ , i do not presently know )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu inb4.

asciilifeform: aaha!

asciilifeform: tho interestingly also

asciilifeform: 'The mktemp() function generates a unique temporary filename from template. The last six characters of template must be XXXXXX and these are replaced with a string that...' etc

asciilifeform: ( yes, they are. but posix, rather than gnat per se )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: man 3 mktemp

asciilifeform: entirely possib

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was curious how he found, is all.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, he does

asciilifeform: tho i wonder -- in principle academics get to pick their subject. so how'd you end up with ~that~ ?

asciilifeform: hey, asciilifeform does a similarly loathesome, and at times ~identical, thing, for money in the saeculum. for so long as you approach it the way kepler approached his work as horoscope-maker, it's livable

asciilifeform so happens also an ukr, at least by modern day map

asciilifeform: bvt: if it aint a seekrit, what sub-subject in particular ?

asciilifeform: bvt: tell us a bit about yerself

asciilifeform: bvt: i assume you already know how to self-voice; if not, deedbot.org/help.html

asciilifeform: !!v CFBC2A3D9F8D4A245A20F4276C0977CDA42A7D2D123E1E5C23FEE8028C6EB63A

asciilifeform: !!rate bvt 1 n00b, ada/vtronics experiments

asciilifeform: iirc ave1's current draft of libc-less gnat is based on 17. but afaik nobody's tried the thing on it yet ( with possible exception of bvt )

asciilifeform: interesting. so will bomb on gnat-2017 ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: per the standard it fires when object goes out of scope

asciilifeform: does it bomb, yay or nay

asciilifeform: bvt: plz answer the given q tho

asciilifeform: or is this a theoretical boojum

asciilifeform: bvt: didja get the orig to actually fail ?

asciilifeform: definitely

asciilifeform: ( and yes even 1liner )

asciilifeform: bvt: since you're already playing with a vtron, i suspect you know what the correct process is re patch

asciilifeform: but p.bvulpes.com will work in a pinch

asciilifeform: bvt: ideally you'd put it on your www, where we'll read

asciilifeform: bvt: possibly fastest n00b-birth-to-key-regged to date

asciilifeform: !!up bvt

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-02#1621201 << the orig, iirc, thrd, re subj. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760718 << 1 thread. ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: the 1 plus of keccak-abuse is that you can make the key whatever size you want. but that's more or less it.

asciilifeform: ( stream ciphers are a 'religious' topic , imho )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: keccak even worx as a stream cipher, and afaik no better or worse than other extant examples.

asciilifeform: it closes the remaining gap ( in his variant, long-connected but non-block-delivering peers get hassled for blox proactively )

asciilifeform: Mocky: 'aggressive' trb vs regular, is just about 'night and day'. i also have ben_vulpes's 'super aggression' item lined up for test.

asciilifeform: ( simply swap the 'sha512sum' in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/readme_s.txt for phf's standalone keccaktron )

asciilifeform: incl. the block archiver

asciilifeform: but yes also oughta be put into service in all proggies where we previously had sha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: keccak is exactly the right pill for trbi, and iirc mircea_popescu was actually 1st to point this out, yrs ago

asciilifeform: Mocky: 'kitchen robot' is euro for usa's 'phood processor'

asciilifeform: ^ see also threads.

asciilifeform: !#s blocks antifuse

asciilifeform: but it'd be quite bulky, physically, and expensive.

asciilifeform: i've thought in the past to have aluminum ( see l0gz re why ) cd's pressed with some qty of blocks

asciilifeform: but to hash'em -- useful.

asciilifeform: Mocky: keep in mind that 'aggressive' trb syncs in (pessimistically) 2-3 weeks. so not much point in throwing around whole balls of blox.

asciilifeform: ( all you need is that little bash , and a reasonably recent trb )

asciilifeform: observe that you can trivially replicate the thing.

asciilifeform: see the readme re what's what.

asciilifeform: early attempt

asciilifeform: Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-29#1180989 << found ☝︎

asciilifeform: ^ see also

asciilifeform: !#s eatblock

asciilifeform: !#s blkcut

asciilifeform: mod6, jurov : trb ml down ??

asciilifeform digs in l0gz..

asciilifeform: Mocky: various folx published signed hashes

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: as for coyote, naturally none in the city, lol, no wolf either

asciilifeform: deer imho aint comparable to a dog-sized rat with human hands, re lulz potential

asciilifeform: but dumpster ?!

asciilifeform: they'll eat grass, and yes garden

asciilifeform: i have yet to see a deer eat rubbish.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plenty of deer here. the 2 species dun compete for fodder at all, afaik

asciilifeform: not so hot when right there when you open front door.

asciilifeform: they're great when yer in a place where it's in zoo, like kangaroo.

asciilifeform: yea same

asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl-QY84hojs << hah, found mircea_popescu's rock beast

asciilifeform: fuckers can unscrew jars.

asciilifeform: imho raccoon bred for brain would be mega-bioweapon.

asciilifeform: recall, rats in stalingrad chewed cables, took out plenty of tank turret rotators on both sides

asciilifeform: *walnut

asciilifeform: fortunately thing has ~wallnut brain.

asciilifeform: ( or at least 'civilized' ameristan is )

asciilifeform: if they learn how to use rocks, we're sunk

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there aint so many critters that know how to think about glass

asciilifeform: where they gotta actually forage for wasp hives etc