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esthlos: ok, I'll get on fixing that. sorry for trouble
mircea_popescu: "is signed" or "i check the signatures" ?
esthlos: they are already lying in the vpatch file though. what am I missing?
mircea_popescu: i am confused.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, what i'm waiting for is you discovering there's ~1% NEW keys in that 4.6mn pile. after which we can simply declare github ie "technology" production in the empire dead and move on.
asciilifeform: possibly; i've nfi
mircea_popescu: psssssh. i don't.
asciilifeform: incidentally nao that shithub has been officially absorbed into microshit, i expect there will be a 'digg -> reddit'-style exodus of deps to some new 'designated opposition' snakepit. but dunno where this is, yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 6.9 -> 4.6 was in re rsa strictly, unless i misread
asciilifeform: spyked: thx for the fodder, i've started up the converter.
mircea_popescu: author should be whipped to death in public square, as far as i'm concerned ; and all others like him alongside.
mircea_popescu: spyked the ~drawing~ is fucking terrible. and not merely terrible, but i can tell from its bruteforced stupidity exactly how the writing goes, because it's evident enough the same mind does both and how that sort of mind goes.
asciilifeform: 'As per the figures above, there were only about 4.6 million RSA keys in existence on GitHub on the 1st of July 2018, as opposed to the approximately 6.9 million found by JuroV' << i suspect that the culprit is the massed usg thrust towards 'use ecdsa nao!'
asciilifeform: aite, i'ma grab the tarball & see.
spyked: and in log reviews: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-28#1830519 <-- I used to read that some years ago. the references to greek mythology aren't too terrible -- for a comic. otherwise same 'ol steampunk medieval romanticization. ☝︎
spyked: spoilers: trilemabot-ii will publish prefixed command handling for irc bots. since I'm not the first to implement this, I'll be eager to have curious eyes examining it once it's up.
spyked: btw trinque, I'm getting back to trilemabot-works next week, so I can do the regrind after trilemabot part ii if that's too deep in your queue. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 23:40 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831298 << unless you have particular preferences, i'm going to throw it into the same patchset as ircbot. it'll follow the grand ircbot tradition of a genesis that never the less relies on the adjacent patches
spyked: ^ asciilifeform, this is all yours. let me know if there's anything I missed, the archive is in "phathub" format.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, if anything says "african woman" better than http://archive.is/Sk6m9#selection-3443.0-3449.1 i wish to know what. because honestly...
mircea_popescu: actually... i suppose might as well get the whole pile archived ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "and i score it F, for get the Fuck off the premises, whore. education's not for everybody."
mircea_popescu: http://www.laughspin.com/lahna-turner-how-i-lost-500-pounds-guest-post/ << this is possibly the shittiest "creative writing" 16yo paper i ever had to score
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831298 << unless you have particular preferences, i'm going to throw it into the same patchset as ircbot. it'll follow the grand ircbot tradition of a genesis that never the less relies on the adjacent patches ☝︎☟︎
phf: considering the slow adoption of the keccak approach and also a large number of existing sha512 patches, i'm planning on doing a regrind where i merge the keccak and the sha branches together, so that vpatch/vdiff can produce both hashes on a switch, until further notice. ☟︎
phf: ty, i'll take a look anyway
trinque: as I recall just walks the strings present in that position in the vpatches
phf: ah yes, i thought there was something else. does his vtron use keccak by the way, or it's still a shasum -a 512 call out?
phf: i think there's also something from esthlos..
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832312 << there's no reason, i literally just returned from the walk where i remembered some outstanding things i need to do, that was one of them. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832296 << curious what this was about. ... open ssh pipes ? i've yet to see this wonder. dollars to doughnuts it's a shituntu etc box with acpi sleep . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: at this juncture i feel obligated to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-23#1789029 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: because as it happens this is ready knob for "distinguish man from child". i can ask people, "but does your '''project''' dlopen" and well...
ave1: Then I decided I could better spend my time on musl than trying to salvage anything from gnu libc
ave1: I next tried to rip out the specific calls but these caused immediate segfaults
ave1: mircea_popescu, dlopen part is from the gnu libc, the init code (even for the static code) in gnu libs depends on functions from the dlopen.o. I think that then causes the whole dlopen.o to be included. I never could get the definite mapping (ld allows you to create a map but it was not helpful)
mircea_popescu: a minimal os + custom built fs (doubling as bitcoin specific db ; possibly written as raid firmware at least in part) + proper net driver (i really don't need iptables ad-hoc scripting lang to do what evidently and universally bitcoin node has to do) + grandfather pistols bitcoin code => an actual definitive package.
asciilifeform: hmm seems like i forgot to include the sage gdb loaders, 1s
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 18:02 asciilifeform: trinque: is your item packaged roughly similarly to my rockchip thing ? (i.e. a tarball that i can unpack onto an empty ext4 , and jump into ) ?
asciilifeform: i will put in the log, what this is, and how to eat it
mircea_popescu: o wow that's his irc client ? i thought he literally meant "mother".
mircea_popescu: Oh, thou demon Drink, thou fell destroyer; thou curse of society, and its greatest annoyer. What hast thou done to society, let me think? I answer thou hast caused the most of ills, thou demon Drink.
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how they propose anyone use those things. "here's a pile of very important features that you must turn off one by one in order to get the box bacl"
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 14:06 ave1: I have to practice my joke lines
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 18:06 asciilifeform: now switching from the depressive tack, to the crackpot track, i ~did~ get high speed uart going on one of those all-in-one amd64 boxes.
mircea_popescu: thinking about this, it's fucking evident what difference the online made for the thinking mind. yes i was a child, but child or no child, it didn't occur to me that i must have a gns link to the item that i like. "this" and pointing was an acceptable manner of reference in the 90s, because why the hell wouldn't it be and what's a global namespace anyway.
mircea_popescu: this "iron-gnat", i'm not even sure it's clear what a cool system it could make.
mircea_popescu: did i ever tell you the story of ye olde 8086 friend had that could drop into asm-er from bios ?
mircea_popescu: i like his approach, ftr. tempered ingenuity, wiggle things one at a time towards the greater goal.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 13:43 ave1: Also, I just checked, it is fine to put the start.o in the libgnat.a so next step may well be that the makefile can be removed again.
ave1: I was reading through the fg design (doing experiments with circuit simulators to see how the RNG might work etc). I'll just continue with the next step.
ave1: I see, I'll have to learn verilog, I did not know you could implement a processor with so little code
ave1: thx, I will look into it
asciilifeform: the simplest (text i/o only) mips emul asciilifeform likes, is 'gxemul' , should suffice to test.
ave1: I could see if I can port gnat to qemu-mips
asciilifeform: i took a shot at building one back in 2016, but ran into a buncha gnarl, which ave1 at this point seems to have mostly resolved
ave1: I have to practice my joke lines ☟︎
ave1: another holy grail, I thought the arm version was it!
asciilifeform: ( init the x64 page table, jump, serial port for i/o )
ave1: now there was something with asserts, but I'll have to dig this up again and do a few experiments
asciilifeform: i'll read the whole thing and get back .
ave1: Also, I just checked, it is fine to put the start.o in the libgnat.a so next step may well be that the makefile can be removed again. ☟︎
ave1: it maybe possible to creat a stand-alone object file as target but I haven't found that option yet (so far I worked with libraries and executables).
diana_coman: anyway, this might be premature ; it's more that I'm surprised gprbuild couldn't quite do what you needed
diana_coman: or there's something I don't quite follow there
ave1: at least that's my understanding so far (crt1.o etc are also not part of libc.a). But maybe it is fine to put in, I haven't tried it yet.
ave1: thx diana_coman, It's now very minimal, mostly so that it can be understood as is. I'm working on adding all the code in so that at least ffa can build.
asciilifeform: phunphakt -- because of insistence on supporting idjit rendering systems, they let korean ( hangul ) script eat O(N^4) space ! ( i.e. erry possible combo of subglyphs ) apparently.
asciilifeform: hm i thought ansi 'norton' graphics made it in
mircea_popescu: and i suspect the "unicode" problem is tightly bound into this.
mircea_popescu: ah i supposed i whined on trilema directly.
mircea_popescu: i guess next time i ban his whole c class. two bit shitheads on two bit shitnet with pooled ips
epony: I'll have to ask that too.
asciilifeform: btw how the fuck does one go about writing r->l orclangs without smudging, i'd like to know.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 22:12 mircea_popescu: a language dumb enough, by the way, that there's no way to distinguish between "i expect" and "i hope". espera-m-ia-i pula.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> a language dumb enough, by the way, that there's no way to distinguish between "i expect" and "i hope". espera-m-ia-i pula. << My eyebrows have been getting an incredible amount of exercise here
asciilifeform: asciilifeform has this recurrent real-life nightmare erry time he has to replace a piece of ancestral tech. most recently, i shit thee not, a pillow
mircea_popescu: a language dumb enough, by the way, that there's no way to distinguish between "i expect" and "i hope". espera-m-ia-i pula. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i thought sepukky was silk
asciilifeform: i think it's from back home.
mircea_popescu: yeah well, i like inch-thick cotton stuff.
asciilifeform: i've yet to see shortsleeve bathrobe lol
mircea_popescu: yes it's fundamentally stupid ; but superficially sane. and in a world that's fucking stupid throughout, the "i don't give a shit what they started with, they have x y z working processes" is quite tempting.
BingoBoingo: I have met
asciilifeform: asciilifeform sews own, i shit thee not, buttons.
mircea_popescu: they're so god damned useful, these pointless morons, i have an assembly line of stripper-phds running all over to find the most banal of items.
asciilifeform: i'd almost expect at this point mircea_popescu would have his pets learn to sew.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform don't remind me, i am $1000 dollars into the adventure of finding underwear for myself.
mircea_popescu: can find a bunch of "i can't believe it's not butter"s, but...
asciilifeform: re gui-ism, naggum had a pretty good discussion re the resulting psychopatholigies, i cannot possibly top it
mircea_popescu: i care about how "the world was briefly better for X insignificant minority" like i care about flea pageants.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 16:40 asciilifeform: gnat has a deliberately brittle behaviour re the restriction pragmas -- if you use one it doesn't know about, it barfs. ( and i'm not even convinced that this is wrong. half of the appeal of ada is that it takes 'postel's law', rips off its head, and fucks the stump )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik it is quite difficult to smoke to death early enuff to keep from reproducing ( possibly i'm missing some detail )
asciilifeform: i dunno, were you?
mircea_popescu: i wasn't ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, i don't fucking remember having to explain anyone how to use webirc in 1998.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i misspoke re 'downconverter' for realtek, really it was ~up~converter ( realtek intake starts at 100MHz or so)
asciilifeform: while imho this is not a 'let's do this right nao' scheme, it is prolly the Right Thing in re 'trb-i' block propagation. no moar 'block withholding' nonsense. no reason why trbi should not own ionosphere the same way mircea_popescu projected bitcoin will 'own' mains current generation capacity.
asciilifeform: ( i tried the chinese-made 'downconverters' to bring it into the necessary band, thus far none worked worth a sparrow's fart )
asciilifeform: trinque: battlefield version of the hypothetical device would need a purpose-baked (fpga) sdr. but for experiment, could use e.g. 'hackrf' ( i have it, but hesitate to recommend it to others, it comes with a massive ball of open sores rubbish, really wants an ab initio driver , ars longa, etc )